Sid: The Complete dwelling place for God, that’s what God’s up to right now, that’s why He’s supernaturally revealing Himself to Jews and Muslims worldwide.  We are in the last of the last days and that’s why I’m so excited about my guest, Joel Richardson because he has received what Daniel talks about when he says the scroll or the scriptures will not be understood until the time of the end. Its Supernatural.  And he has the easiest understood teaching of end times and in fact the 3 DVDs series is called “Islam and End times.”  People that hear this ninety-nine percent of the people who have heard his explanation on the end times say, “It’s so Biblical it makes so much sense it’s exactly what Daniel said, we now understand the end times.”  Now on yesterday’s broadcast Joel, you said, “For us to watch Turkey,” why?

Joel: Well, we have to understand recent Middle Eastern history, Turkey for over 500 years ruled the Middle East, the Ottoman Empire is really the Empire that the Islamic Empire culminated with.  The Islamic Empire having existed from shortly after the death of Muhammad, the founder of Islam for roughly 140,000 years and again it culminated with the rule of Turkey of the Middle East.  And the Bible prophecies that in the last days this Empire would be revived, the Bible says that this empire that it would essentially suffer a fatal head wound and that it would come back.  This is the beast of Revelation 13; many people believe this is the actual anti-Christ and it very well may be the anti-Christ, but we need to understand that the beast of Daniel 7 and Revelation 13 are first and foremost speaking of the empires Sid Roth.  So the Bible says that this Empire, this anti-Semitic anti-Christ empire that ruled the Middle East would suffer head wounds and come back.  And in 1924 the secular reformer Mustafa Caramel out of Turk he abolished the Islamic Empire, he abolished the office of the Caliph.  This is like the Pope of Islam, today throughout the Islamic world there is a cry for the reestablishment of the Caliphet and all of the nations that were once members of this empire are now reuniting and coming together and they’re crying out for the reestablishment of the Neo-Ottoman Empire throughout the Middle East.  And amazingly Sid, you know I’ve been talking about this and drawing out the scriptures that show these things.  I recently just read a letter that was sent to the leaders of the Turkish government, the president and the Prime Minister that was sent by a Rabbi Menachem Froman.  He’s one of the more prominent Hasidic Rabbis in Israel, he’s the leader of the Deco Movement Settlement and he literally is calling for a Neo-Ottoman Empire.  Believe it or not this religious rabbi has expressed that he would rather live under a Muslim government then a secular Jewish government.

Sid: And maybe you can explain something to me since we see that Turkey will be such a major end-time player; maybe even where the anti-Christ emerges from.  Why is it that the United States of America is so heavily invested in Turkey?  I mean we send them fighter jets; we sent them weapons; we have bases there.  Do you see any tie in with that in the end-times.

Joel: Well, absolutely.  We need to understand that when the Anti-Christ first emerges on the scene he comes as the trusted mediator.  He comes as a bridge builder; he is able to mediate a covenant or a peace treaty between Israel and the surrounding nations.  So the anti-Christ is trusted by both sides; he has a measure of political capital that he’s able to pull something like this off that Bush and all of these former Presidents have not been able to do.  The Anti-Christ comes along, he is the mediator of the covenant, three and half years into the covenant he reveals his true nature.  Turkey today is clearly geographically and in every other way a perfect ideal candidate to be the mediator between Israel and Middle East.  And even when we look at Menachem Froman letter that I just spoke of, he repeated speaks of Turkey as the only salvation, the only means to achieve peace between the Jews and the Palestinians.  And he speaks about them about them being a perfect mediator nation.  Turkey has been working through Prime Minister Erdogan of Turkey to mediate everything in the Middle East over the past few years.  Every time that there’s a conflict between Afghanistan and Pakistan Turkey is there to mediate.

Sid: Well, I’m beginning to see why you say “Keep your eyes on Turkey.” Now, another thing that I find fascinating is you’ve lived in the Middle East, you’ve had a great deal of relationship with the Muslim people; you’ve studied Islam.  And you’ve seen such amazing similarities between what Christianity calls the anti-Christ; and what Islam describes as their messiah or Mahadee. – Its Supernatural.

Joel: The Bible teaches that in the last days this charismatic world religious political leader would emerge and he would revive an empire and then he would then lead this empire to invade the land of Israel where he would try to set up an eventually would succeed in setting up his seat of authority on the Temple Mount where he would try to rule the world with his one world religion from the Temple Mount.  And the Bible says that he will have seven years to accomplish all of these things before Jesus returns; this is what the Bible teaches.  Islam teaches that at the end of the age their messiah figure known as the Mahadee that he would come; that he would revive the Islamic Empire; that he would be the governor of all of Islam the religious, political, military leader of the whole Islamic world; that he would then lead the Islamic world in an invasion of the land of Israel; he would kill Jews.  And literally, sacred Islamic tradition teaches, that the Mahadee would set up his seat of authority on the Temple Mount where he would cause the whole world to submit to Islam and Islamic sacred tradition teaches that the Mahadee would rule for a period of seven years.  The two stories are identical; Islam has taken the Biblical Anti-Christ, it’s flipped the story on its head and it’s made him into there savior.

Sid: That is absolutely amazing, do I dare ask you, has God revealed to you the timing of the rapture?

Joel: Well, personally I believe that with regard to the rapture, we need to take the attitude that says this, hope for the best, prepare for the worst; I believe this is wisdom for all of life.  Certainly, there is a lot of debate within theological communities, pre- trib, post- trib; again my approach, is hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

Sid: Sell out to Jesus, and you’ll have a pan trib, it’ll all pan out.

Joel: Well, yeah, yeah you know fix your eyes on Christ and that’s all we can do.

Sid: Final thoughts?

Joel: Again, many Christians thinks it’s wonderful that Islam teaches that Jesus Christ will return and they do; but what we need to realize is that Muslims teach that when Jesus returns he comes back not as the Jesus of the Bible, he comes back as a Muslim prophet and he literally abolishes Christianity.  He tells Christians that they’ve had it wrong all along, he never claimed to be the Son of God, their Bible has been corrupted; they’ve been deceived and then he literally slaughters Jews.  The Jesus of Islam in the end times is the very antithesis of the Jesus of the Bible, according to Islam Jesus comes back to abolish Christianity and to kill Jews.  Christians need to recognize that Muslims have been set up and when we pray for Muslims we need to say, “Lord, you saved me, you opened my eyes, you touched me, now these that are so deeply bound by deception, do for them what you did for us; have mercy on Muslims today; open their eyes and raise up a million mighty evangelists throughout the Islamic world who would be fearless that would go forth.  That you would have mercy on them even as you have had mercy on us because you are the God of mercy and we believe in your goodness.”

Sid: I’m interviewing Joel Richardson on … Islam and the end times and I see why this prophet pulled you out of 7000 people; told you things about yourself that only God could know and then said, that in the future God would give you revelation on the end times.  You probably didn’t have a clue of what he meant when he talked about that revelation or did you?

Joel: Well, the last thing in the world I would have believed was that I would be teaching on the end-times, it’s never been…I have always been a missions guy, I’ve been an evangelism guy; I’ve been given to reaching out to Muslims, reaching out to the poor.  And you know I did have a little bit of a cynical attitude in general towards the end-times because we’ve seen so many false predictions.  We’ve seen so many of these things, but as the Lord began opening these things up to me I recognized the church needs to be made aware of these things.

Sid Roth: And they will be open up to you…

Sid:Its Supernatural. We want everyone everywhere to feel so loved that they have an overflow of this love to go to other people.  And this is what’s happened to my guests Jewish Believers Alyosha and Jody Ryabinov; and Alyosha is World Class Concert Pianist but that’s not why I like his music.  I like his music because I can experience love.  And you know Alyosha you were talking a bit about when your mentor, Jack Frost taught you about experiencing God’s love but one of the major things was when a man, you weren’t use to this, a big man would just hug you and what would he speak to you?  What would he say?

Alyosha: He hugged me and then he would say, “Father just give him all the love that he missed growing up,” and then also he began to bless me.  And then I realized I never had Father’s blessing and it was tremendous because I felt that my Heavenly Father blessed me and my earthly Father blessed me as well; because I could feel His heart, I could feel his love and I was pinned against the bosom of this man Sid Roth.  And by the way, not many people know the details but in the scripture Yeshua said once, to Pharisees, He said, “I know why I where I came from and know where I’m going to but you don’t know where I came from and you don’t know where I’m going to.”  And in John Chapter one, verse 18 it says where he came from, and he came from the bosom of the Father.  So when that man gave me that hug I was pinned against his bosom.  For the first time I experienced a bosom.  Interesting in Hebrew on of God’s names is El Shaddai and shad, in Hebrew means breast so El Shaddai is translated as Almighty.  But is it possible that it is translated as Almighty because the true might and power comes from the nurture?  So I thought that it was the most powerful moment of my life because when it happened my emotions were released and I cried for I don’t know, twenty-five days.

Sid: Why did you cry?

Alyosha: I don’t even know, I can’t explain it, I just, I felt that my emotions were released, I felt God’s love.  I felt that the most powerful being of the Universe, the King of the Universe is my Daddy.  I mean, “How does it make you feel?”

Sid: Now, you have a very profound statement that I noted before, and it is you say “Love is emotion not just an action.”  What do you mean by that?

Alyosha: Well, sometimes we try to separate or section the word love and I’m not saying it’s wrong, but a lot of people teach, “Well God loves us because He had made a covenant with us and He’s faithful to the covenant, He’s faithful to His word.”  And all that is true, but it’s not the only reason why God love us.  He loves us because He has created us; He has given us birth and He has passion and feeling toward us.  He feels something to us, the same way I feel, you know have love and feeling toward my children.  I have two children, a son and daughter and when they hurt I hurt, when they do well I rejoice, it’s a feeling.  And that feeling causes me to be committed to them; and even when they mess up I will never reject them.  And so Our Father is the same, He feels something towards us; He feels this compassionate deep love.  And as a matter of fact God has a feeling you know people know the fruit of the spirit, love, joy, peace and etc.  Those are God’s emotions, Our Father is very emotional and I believe He acts out of that emotion.

Sid: I have to believe that when you play the piano now that the love in you is just poured out from your music and that’s what makes such a difference in the way you play today.

Alyosha: Yeah, it’s exactly and this is why we see so many testimonies of people getting healed.

Sid: Jody, tell me a few things that have happened recently.

Jody: Oh, we were just in China last month and it was amazing to see how, even the Chinese people who, you know, people say they are not emotional; it is so far from the truth.  But Alyosha went to the piano and he began to play and we just began to sing to the Lord.  Every single Chinese person in that room, it was a packed room, of these wonderful precious Chinese people, every one of them began to weep just in the presence of our God.

Sid: Were they changed in anyway?

Jody: Oh, we were transformed, you could see it, you could watch their faces being transformed and even afterwards people would come up.  And just in fact last week I think we were in Canada and sharing Alyosha’s music there and one woman came up and she said, “My heart was so hardened I didn’t realize how hardened it had become until I came into the presence of this love from God.”  That was incredible.

Sid: So many people are being healed physically and emotionally but tell me a bit about Jody these two CD’s were making available, “Fear Not” and “The Lord is My Healer.” – Its Supernatural.

Jody: Well, “The Lord is My Healer,” was the first one and that was actually created for Jack Frost when he was battling cancer.  And we created that to minister God’s healing, God’s love to him and he actually said a profound statement to us that that actually got him through night, after night, after night.  And then this last CD that Alyosha produced, “Fear Not” we actually created it because we know the need is so profound to release people from fear.  And there is only one way through the Word and experiencing God’s love through you know the music and scripture and getting it into the heart.  So we did, we produced this last CD with that intention and while Alyosha was producing it he came down stair and he said to me, “Honey, I am experiencing the compassion of God as I’m playing this music.”  And the Lord just allowed him to experience this measure of love.  And it is a frequency, it is an experience, it is an emotion, it all that in the form of music.

Sid: And the fact that it is in Hebrew and English and its pure scripture and it’s the love anointing on the music, I don’t think you can get anything more powerful.  In China did you see many people either emotionally or physically healed?

Jody: Oh, tons.  Ha-ha, everywhere we went there were testimonials people were healed, people were…

Sid: Was there one specific one that you can think of?

Jody: Well, one lady came in totally depressed, there was actually several.  One came in depressed, one came in limping you know, couldn’t even walk and she was evidently paralyzed from a stroke and she got up and began dancing the whole roof came off the house when that happened.  Ha-ha because everybody knew she was paralyzed and couldn’t move and she began dancing.

Sid: Listen in this day that we are living in now with, I mean people are really fearful about the economy, about health, about terrorism.  I can’t think of anything more exciting than your “Fear Not” CD in Hebrew and English.  And even though many people, well the translation is there, but even though people don’t understand the Hebrew it is sort of getting into them through the frequencies of God’s Word.

Jody: That’s right.

Sid: Let’s hear an excerpt from “Fear Not.”

Sid: And I’ll tell you something, if you’ve been listening all this week you can’t help but be red hot for the Messiah. Its Supernatural.  My guest Delores Winder, just out of the blue in 1956, she began to have what they diagnosed as advanced osteoporosis which started causing her bones to get old and brittle way before their time.  The disease progressed and her organs started shutting down, she had a body cast, body brace, neck brace, the worse pain a human could have.  And the last step before someone dies when their pain is so unbearable is where they literally burn out the nerve centers in the brain so that the part of the body that’s experiencing the pain feels nothing, it’s not a reversible surgery, they did two of these surgeries on her.  She found out about Kathryn Kulman, who has a great healing ministry, but of course although she was a strong Christian, she did not believe in healing.  But she felt like the Lord said that her youngest son, she would get a revelation on what to do with him because she was going to die any day now.  And incidentally that son literally said to his mother just out of the blue, “You’re going to be healed, Mom.  And so she goes to this meeting, she gets her answer, because she was introduced to the Holy Spirit and had a vision that the Holy Spirit will be around her young son and take care of him.  And all of a sudden something happened that not’s suppose to happen.  Her legs were on fire, a medical doctor from Johns Hopkins had a Word of Knowledge; he persuades her to take off her body cast and she comes forward and she finds she’s able to walk, she able to bend down.  And then Kathryn Kulman touches her and I guess you Delores, you were in so much shock that when you went down in the Spirit you probably didn’t think, this can’t happen because already you are moving your legs yourself off the ground.  All you could do before is kind of shuffle and you could feel things.  So what’s going on inside of that brain of yours?

Delores:  I don’t think I can really tell you because it wasn’t till I felt as though it had to be somebody else and not me.

Sid: Well, the woman that took you, okay you get in your car, you’re driving home, what’s the conversation like?

Delores: We’ll, I have to back up a minute here because Dr. O’Ellen met me out in the lobby after it was over and he said to me “Delores, I need to caution you about something.”  And I thought, “Oh here it comes, here’s the catch.”  And he said, “Satan’s going to try to tell you that you haven’t been healed.  Now I was in church all my life, we never talked about Satan and I backed off from him and he said, “Just remember what I cautioned you about.”  And I went home wondering what were these people like, what would he mean by that?  We got out to the car and Dale said, put your cast on.  And I said no.  And so I wouldn’t put the cast on again and she said, I’m afraid to take you home without it.  And I said, “No.” And finally we started home.  And then she said to me, what are you going to tell Bill?  And I thought oh my, I don’t know and so we were both pretty much in a fog and when we got home, she was driving Bill’s car, but she parked across in her driveway.  And they were very anxious because it was very late and Chris was watching opened the door, saw me step out of the car for the first time in his life by myself.   Dale said to me, “I’m not going over with you, I don’t know what happened.”  And I said, “I can’t go over alone.”  Well, Chris came over and grabbed me around the waist and started carrying me, and he was saying, “You were healed, you were healed.”  We went into the house; Bill said to me, “All right where is your cast?”  And I said, “It’s in the car.”  And he said, “All right let’s get her to bed.  And Chris said, “Can we go to church in the morning and I said, yes.”  Bill said, “Chris, will, talk about this tomorrow let’s get her to bed.  And I slept in a valley of a hospital bed and Bill got me to bed in that position and I slept, but he said to me, he was in his bed and he said to me, no that was the next day.  He said “That I don’t think that you could get in that cast now.”  And I tried it on because I was straight the cast was made for a crooked body.  So this is what happened and I had to learn something, the whole Bible is real, it’s truth and in meeting the Holy Spirit he changed everything.  Because I knew that I knew God was with me and He was right there and he took care of things.  He managed the whole show.

Sid:Its Supernatural. Well, tell me what happened when you went for the first time to your doctor?

Delores: Ha, well I called and made an appointment and I told them “Don’t tell him I’m coming in” and so he came into the room and saw me sitting there and he said, “Delores what are you doing here?” because, he was waiting for Bill to call him and tell him I was dead.  And I said, “I want you to check me.”  And he said, “Something has happened to you, you look different, what do you want me to check?  I said, “Everything.”  So he got me up, stood me up and the nurses were all holding me and he said bend over and he was trying to bend me and I just pushed their hands aside and just went down and touched the floor.  And I stood up and turned around to look at him.  And he said, “Let me see your sore.”  That was the first thing he thought about.  And I showed him my sore, and he said, “It scared over, what happened?”  And I said, “No, I want you to check everything.” I got on the table, could turn over by myself.

Sid: Oh, “What was happed to that bone that was sticking out?”

Delores: It was still out, but it had covering over it of flesh.  And then he started checking and running his hands, his fingers down and said doesn’t that hurt?”  Up where the shoulder I could still feel in and I said, “No.”  And then he said to me “I suppose you want me to use the pin too?”  He said, “Your spine is straight.”  And I said, “Yes, I want you to use the pin,” and he barely touched my right foot with the sharp point.”  And I said, “It’s sharp,” and he said, “Tell me what happened, but let me sit down.” Sid Roth.  And he sat down on his stool and he started crying, and I knew that somehow he knew that this happened a different way and it would be logical because I was a very logical person and I told him what happen, and I said, “Then tell me another way that this could have happened?”  And he said, “Delores this is truly a miracle of God and you have work to do for Him.”

Sid: Now Delores, that doctor didn’t realize how prophetic he was but some strange things, good things started happening to you like your hands you would feel almost like electric currents were going through your hands.  And there would be spots in your hands that would be burning hot, what did you do when that happened?

Delores: Tried to hide my hands, not touch anyone, I really fought this because it was not according to my way.

Sid: Well, you were teaching a Bible study one day and someone brushed against you, of which you had no control over that, and what happened to that person?

Delores: Well, they fell over and…

Sid: And you know it was the Spirit of God just went out of you and just knocked them down to the floor.

Delores: Yes, and it happened to about five people before I could get out of there Sid Roth.  I was trying to get out without any disturbance, but I’m afraid the Holy Spirit disturbed the whole thing and He was working and doing a job.

Sid: And then you sat down and got some counsel from a pastor that said, “Find out what happened to these people.”  Well, what happened to these people?

Delores: Well, the first woman was so incredible, she had not cried in eighteen years.  Her father was an alcoholic and the children dare not cry and he would beat them.  Her grandfather died, she loved her grandfather and the father came home after the grandfather had died and she was crying in her room and he went in and beat her so bad that she couldn’t even get up and go to the funeral.  And she had not cried in eighteen years and she got up off the floor and thought someone had poured water on her; she was crying and the tears started flowing and how wonderful it was.  Another woman was healed of arthritis and just different things.

Sid: Kathryn Kulman you use to say “Arthritis that’s automatic.” Until one doctor walked up and said, “Miss Kulman don’t you know that there’s no cure for arthritis?”

Delores: That’s right, that’s right.

Sid: But it was automatic for her almost, she had so many people healed of arthritis.  When did you realize that when this electric current went through you and you prayed for people that they got healed?

Delores: I wasn’t even praying for people Sid Roth.

Sid: Just touched them.

Delores: It was happening and I wanted Bill to move away where no one would know what happened to me and we could just go on with our life and he said, “God didn’t heal you for me to hide you, I can’t do that.”  And it was very difficult because we had a marriage to be renewed, we had a family life that needed taken care of and I just wanted to do that.  But found that I couldn’t and it seemed, Bill said, “Someone would know you regardless of where we would go.” – Its Supernatural.