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Our Guests Pat & Patty McEnnerney

Pat & Patty McEnnerney

Sid: My guest by way of telephone is Patrick and Patty McEnnerney. I’m speaking to them in their home in Casa Grande, Arizona.  They move in extraordinary power; extraordinary words of knowledge and wisdom.  And I’ve asked Patrick and his wife to just yield to the Spirit of God and be obedient, Patrick.

Pat:  You know the heart of the Lord right now is for believers and maybe some that don’t even know Jesus listening to this to come into His fullness; to come in to what Jesus has paid for in being transformed in the miraculous.  And my wife and I and our heart is to serve the Lord.  My heart cry is to heal the sick; my heart cry is to minister to the children of God the helpless, those that are broken; those that are burdened, those that are lost.  And Jesus gets all the glory and I would like to just wrap this up; I believe that God, and I’ve been seeing in our ministry phenomenal things happen and things have happened, transfer of impartation, where people become overwhelmed on fire for Jesus…

Sid: Now, you’ve been seeing this.  What happens to the person that’s on fireball hits them?

Pat:  They get radically changed. I mean it just radically turns them on the corner.  I’ve honestly lost count of… I only do it when it’s like an overload of anointing on me and I’ll let off and I’ll let loose with the fireball; and I’ve seen them explode in the natural where my flesh was overwhelmed by fear as it came down to the floor thinking that it was going to burn.  But when I’ve released those there have been people that totally delivered and God says “When we lay hands on people and then we impart.”  And when you prophesy in the Word of God or do an action by faith it moves hell out of the way.  When we put a demand in heaven; heaven comes and hell has to go.  And putting a demand in heaven is those that walk in faith believing, and I’m willing and I realize that I may lose my life pretty soon for the gospel.  But I’ve found God that is worthy to die for.  And I haven’t found anything in this world that can measure.  Because everything that I chased prior to Jesus has ended up in the junk yard.  But this love that I’m talking about can be transferred.  And you have to receive it though.  And as we’ve been talking on the program and I’ve got a name “Jane, June 16th 1962” and God specifically told me that this is a marital marriage or emotional problem that you’re at the end of the rope and you’ve been thinking of taking your life. Now don’t do that; cry out right now.  Cry out the name of Jesus Christ, and you’ll be saved; cry out right now; tell God that it’s broken.  Tell Him there’s nothing that you can do; cry out to the Lord and give Him the little that you’ve got left.  But whatever you do don’t take your life.  Okay, my wife has something as well, for this lady Patty says “There’s a revelation of contentment of who you are in Christ.”  And let me finish with this.  Matthew is blind, 1942.  Right now I command the spirit of blindness to submit to the Lordship of Jesus; be loosed in Jesus Mighty Name and I charge the Holy Ghost hallelujah to be released and enforce the Covenant life around Matthew right now in the Mighty Name of Jesus.   Now friend there’s others out there that have the similar problem.  You know grab it for yourself.  You know it’s amazing to me that God can speak a person’s name, their birthday by word of knowledge but you don’t have to have it because that anointing has been released. Hallelujah.

Sid: And let me ask you a question; what about the Jewish people that are listening right now that do not know Yeshua as Jesus the Messiah?

Pat:  Friend the ground of Israel belongs to God; (Laughing) it’s His and every Jew whether they know it or not is going to be drawn to Israel.  You know to me the amazing thing is that many Jews have fallen so far from God that they don’t know who God is and they’re totally confused and they’ve fallen into the world system.  But in you is the seed; in you is the covenant promise that God says “That the children’s children will follow Me. The children’s heart will be for Me. And I challenge you right now “Is it true that here is one God and His Son, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit?”  This Bible that I have is partly yours as well, and it’s all yours.  But I challenge you right now to cry out to the Messiah, cry out to God right now and challenge Him to remove from you the blinders off your eyes; to open your eyes to understanding; to give you understanding.  That He would put upon you the garment of His presence. Hallelujah.

Sid: Now what about those fireballs, I’m ready for them?

Pat:  Yeah, well it started in my ministry, we’ve had a lot of strange things happen and a sign and a wonder is that you know they are a sign and wonder. (Laughing)  And it’s been learning really to walk in the Lord but God has given me this revelation about Sons of Thunder a covenant sons and daughters.  They will move with phenomenal power and in Isaiah we see he cries out “Lord use me.”  And a cherub fire angel is sent and this hyssop holy fire, this hyssop holy oil that we need a holy fire to come like a crucible and cleanse away so that the new man can come forth. And so in Revelations it talks about the fire angel on the altar throwing to the earth fireballs and thunders and lightning and in our meetings I prophesied the elements to be changed  and sons of thunder lighting will strike around where I’m preaching and torrents of rain like you’ve never seen.  And God obviously gets people’s attention.  In South Carolina we had over 100 people fall out over a 100 healings when God did a supernatural thing and these fireballs are seen in the natural sometimes; not all of the times.  But when they are received I just feel the anointing of God get so strong on me I have to get some of it off. And so the Holy Spirit will reveal to me a person and I’ll just let it go; just like I did to you right now and it will strike them and all kinds of different things happen.  Sometimes they can’t walk and they get totally drunk and they fall down laughing as they go through deliverance; the results are people will get open heaven.  People will get an open vision. They’ll be translated into the presence of God where’s there’s fire and incense and His presence just permeates them.  And from them; when we talk to God there has to come a change when we believe anything from the gospel it has to bring corresponding action or it’s not the gospel.

Sid: That’s not true repentance; unless there’s an action connected with it.

Pat:  That’s it; that’s what I’m talking about.  If you believe truth it has to of course your walking in repentance.  You know that I don’t have the full knowledge but I do know that God has used this in our ministry many times to touch people way in the back and heal them.  And it’s something that we’re on the horizon for; I believe that soon; very soon sooner than we can grasp with our intellect Jesus is coming back and there has to be a radical change because He’s coming for a bride that’s wrinkle free and true.  And they’ll be burning on fire for Jesus.  They’ll be delivering; they’ll be going into dark places and raising the dead literally rotten bodies will come up.  And there are people doing that today on the face of the earth; all those that are in pain and those of you that have bad backs.  If what I’ve been speaking about bears the weight of heaven if there’s a supernatural power behind it I just want to be able to demonstrate to you the Lord Jesus was resurrected and He’s alive and well.  If you have the pain put your hand on it right now.  Those of you that have bad backs; I’m going to have you stand up.  In Jesus Christ Name I rebuke this lying vanity of pain; you submit to the Lordship of Jesus Christ; in Jesus Mighty name I loose you and cast you off.  Thank you Lord, Thank You Lord. Thank You now start thanking; those that have pain start thanking Jesus.  Now Father in the mighty name of Jesus I rebuke the residuals of the pain in the backs right now and I command the vertebrates come under the blood of Jesus and pop into place right now.  Be loosed in Jesus Christ Name and do not come back.  In the Mighty Name of Jesus I charge the Holy Spirit to be released right now and force the Covenant Life.  Now those that have bad back right now bend over and do something that you couldn’t do by faith in Jesus Mighty Name start thanking Him and shout to the Lord “Hallelujah.”  God we just praise You for these miracles right now in Jesus Name amen.

Sid: Does Patty have something?

Patty:  I’m just hearing a long with what Pat was saying that Jesus is calling each one to throw aside the garment and begin to walk out the promises.  And all their hearing is that Satan wants them to quit.  And we’re saying in the Mighty Name of Jesus stir yourself even in the midst of your trouble of your hard time by way of remembrance count your blessings and begin to confess and prophesy the life that you already have been given.  And I believe there’s women and men out there that have a spirit of boredom and discontentment on them.  And I just think that if they ask in the Mighty Name of Jesus for that revelation of contentment that they will receive it and they’ll begin to walk out.

Sid: Patty we’re out of time right now but I really thank you and your husband for being part of this broadcast.  Mishpochah this is God’s time, Oral Roberts recently had a visitation from the Lord and God showed him that the spiritual scales are coming off of the eyes of Jewish people.  This is God’s time to reach the Jew; this is God’s time for you to be freeaand for the Jew and Gentile to come together to form that one new man.

Our Guest Jonathan Bernis

Jonathan Bernis

Sid: Now I have my good friend Jonathan Bernis on the phone and most of you are familiar with his TV show” Jewish Voice with Jonathan Bernis.”  Jonathan you came out with a concept that frankly I haven’t seen anyone do before.  And that is I’ve seen people have scriptures to mediate on God’s word and list them and tell us to mediate rightfully so.  But you came out with it on a CD as well as in a book with a special way so that anyone can read Biblical Hebrew instantly.  Why the Hebrew, most people don’t understand Hebrew?

Jonathan: Well, Sid I believe that Hebrew has a unique power to it, and I believe it’s connected to Roman’s 11:25.  Which I think it’s often misinterpreted; it says “A blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles comes in.”  And I don’t believe it’s talking about a full number but a fullness coming back to the church; a restoration as Acts talks about; a restoration of all things.  Part of this divine restoration and I believe Sid it’s a last days restoration is the revival of the Jewish roots of our faith.  And that includes the language of Hebrew which I believe is dynamic and powerful which I believe it began with restoration that began with the 1800’s with Hebrew coming back to a people that had been wandering for almost 2000 years.  The Jewish people who are now back in the land and the national language in Israel is the language of Hebrew.  I believe that this is a modern day miracle Sid.  And I believe that Christians can tap into this amazing restoration.

Sid: Well as far as I’m concerned not only is the language supernatural it was prophesied they’d be speaking it again in the streets of Judah.  But it is… there’s something about sound.  For instance, I interview Psalmists and some of them literally they have portals to heaven for peace, or for healing, or for various things.  There’s something about Hebrew that opens up the heavens.  What do you feel about that?

Jonathan:  Well I believe that God responds to any language but I believe that there’s a unique anointing on Hebrew and some have suggested Sid, I can’t tell you dogmatically that this is the case, but that when the Lord spoke the world into existence and said “Let there be light” He was speaking this forth in Hebrew as a creative force.”  So I believe that Hebrew does have a supernatural dimension to it.  There’s frequencies that resonate in the Hebrew how detailed I don’t get into.  But I do believe that there is a very unique power to Hebrew; it’s called the language of the prophets the language of the tongue of the prophets.  And I believe that it’s part of an end-time restoration.

Sid: Now in Jeremiah 31:23 Jonathan read that verse.

Jonathan:  “Thus says the Lord of Hosts the God of Israel, they shall again use this speech in the land of Judah and in its cities when I bring back their captivity.”

Sid: Well, how much more specific can you get?  I can just tell you the way it affects me.  I love to hear the language of Hebrew.  And tell me about how this prophesy of God’s word that once again the words of this supernatural language will be restored in Israel. How did it come about?

Jonathan:   Modern restoration of Hebrew goes back to the latter part of the 19 century.  Actually the middle part; the 1860’s and 70’s thought a man that God called to move back to Israel before it was restored as the nation of Israel.  A man called Eleazar Ben Yehudah and he was responsible for the restoration of the Hebrew language.  He spent the majority of his life developing ancient Hebrew into a modern spoken language that could be used by a people because he was confident that one day the Jewish people would be restored back to the land.  And it came to past Sid in 1948; Israel supernaturally in a day was restored back to the Jewish people; the birth of the modern birth of the state of Israel.  And then 1967 with Jerusalem coming back into Jewish hands; I think this was the singular greatest event in the last century to signal the near return of Jesus to this world.

Sid: And you know what’s so amazing about our God is here He said that the Jewish people would be scattered to the four corners of the earth. He prophesied they’d be maintained as a distinct people.  He prophesied a land would be born in a day, and He prophesied from the four corners of the earth we would return but when we returned we returned we spoke the language of whatever country we were scattered to.  So if Eleazar Ben Yehudah had not restored modern Hebrew how could be communicate with one another?

Jonathan: Yeah it was a miracle. Sid there was 3 restorations just to continue on this that are absolutely supernatural.  One is the restoration of the Jewish people scattered to the nations of the world back to their land after almost 2000 years. There was only a remnant of Jewish people living in Israel after the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple in 70 AD.  We were scattered to the remote parts of the earth.  But since 1948 God has gathered us back as a people and there’s more Jewish people living in Israel today.  That little sliver of land the size of New Jersey than any other place in the world including America.  Secondly He’s restoring our faith.  Jewish people are coming to faith in the God of Israel through the Messiah.  Eyes are being opened; there’s more Jewish people that believe in Jesus today than any time since the first century, then third restoration of the modern language. They’re all tied together; their all supernatural and we’re experiencing this before our very eyes Bible prophesy being fulfilled.

Sid: Now tell me about this beautiful book and CD that’s included titled “Confessing the Hebrew Scriptures.”

Jonathan:  Okay Sid I have to give credit where credit is due and you played a role in this believe it or not.  A number of years ago you confessed healing scriptures and put them to music.  And I listened to those tapes and I never knew if they ever came out in CD’s it was a while ago.  They were on cassette tapes and I sent those to friends and it was soothing for the soul; faith came alive for healing and health through the confession of God’s Word.  I’m a big believer in confessing the word of God; faith is built as we confess the word of God.  But then I coupled that with a method that I had learned growing up in synagogue and that is the idea of transliteration.  Most Jewish people can’t read the Hebrew and so our prayer books transliterate the Hebrew into English phonetic English to sound out the Hebrew so then we can follow along using the phonetics.  Now I learned to read Hebrew the transliteration was kind of a cheat sheet that we could use to speak out the prayers  in synagogue. What I’ve done is I’ve taken that method that transliteration…

Sid: Now that was done because so many Jews relocated to the four corners of the earth as God prophesied and they did not know how to speak Hebrew after several generations. So it had to be started a system like this and it’s actually a supernatural way for any one that never went to Bible School of any sort, or a language school of any sort to be speaking the Biblical language.

Jonathan:  That’s right Sid in 5 minutes you can sit down put the CD on and you can be speaking in Hebrew without any Hebrew background or training or education whatsoever.  You can actually speak these scriptures out following along in the Hebrew and using the transliteration.  And you can be speaking forth confessing the Hebrew scriptures related to the Name of God Jehovah Shalom; or Adonai Shalom the Lord our peace; the Lord our completion.

Sid: Now you have scriptures about the word shalom peace but most people think of that’s what it means peace.  But it means so much more explain.

Jonathan:  Well, shalom is one of the greatest words in the Hebrew language; it means much more than just peace.  Although it does bring with it a supernatural peace.  But it also means wellbeing; it means wholeness.  And the greatest translation I think of shalom is completion; to bring to completion. When we’re exhorted in Psalm 122:6 “To pray for the peace, the shalom, of Jerusalem.”  In fact God is asking us to pray for His plan and purpose to be brought to completion, fulness.

Sid: So that’s why you know many people say now “Why did God pick only one city in the whole world that we’re admonished to pray for?”  And that’s Psalm 122:6 “Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.”  Then He makes a promise connected with it.  “They shall prosper” and the word prosper in the Hebrew (talk about peace) means heart peace.  You shall have heart peace; because you’re praying for the completion of everything that God has prophesied so Jesus can come back and rule this earth.  We certainly need something better than Democrats or Republicans. (Laughing)

Jonathan:  (Laughing) We sure do Sid; and something really exciting is that first pray for the shalom of peace of Jerusalem they shall prosper that love thee.  Which means there’s a promise of property connected to that is also the word shalom.  Pray for the shalom of Jerusalem of Israel and God will shalom you.” He’ll prosper you back; He’ll give you peace, He’ll give you wholeness. He’ll complete the work He began in you.  It’s just amazing as you sow that prayer into Israel He pours it back into us.  That word is shalom.

Sid:  Now this brand new but we’ve already field tested this and people are listening to this in the Hebrew because the CD has beautiful relaxing music and then you hear the promise in Hebrew; then you hear the promise in English.  And you can also because it’s transliterated and the most beautiful pictures in this book.  And it’s really a book that you’d be proud to put on a coffee table; what a conversation piece you’re going to have in your home.  So as people do this at night they get totally relaxed and I believe as you’ve just pointed out the word shalom is completeness and all the promises of God… it’s called “The Lord Is Peace.

Our Guest Ricky Sinclair

Ricky Sinclair

Sid: My guest by way of telephone is Pastor Ricky Sinclair; Sr. Pastor of Miracle Church in Baton Rouge Parish, Louisiana.  Ricky was set for a life crime; he was set for life in prison; he was set to die many, many times.  But God had a plan for his life; he had a destiny and no matter how bleak a situation looks if you take a look at what God did with Ricky he can do it with you.  Ricky your wife says that when you picked up this revelation of love and it’s really what Jesus said. We Jewish people call it the Shema.  “Shema Yisrael Adonai Eloheinu Adonai Echad. Here of Israel the Lord our God the Lord is One.  And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart with all of your mind, and with all your strength.  And you shall love your neighbor as yourself.”  When you got that revelation your wife says that there was a total change in you which reflected a change in everyone you met.  How did you get that revelation Ricky?

Ricky: Sid, I don’t know how I got it all I know is that I’ve been living for God; serving God in my ministry and never really saw the supernatural.  Of course read the Bible and I saw the miracles in the Bible but I never really saw the supernatural.  But I just realized that it wasn’t about tradition and different denominations and religions.  And it wasn’t about religion, but what it was about was just simply loving God and loving people. That if I would live my life and put God first and then to love the precious people that He created then that was what life was really about.

Sid: And in love God is there because God is love. Tell me about a few people that I’m interested in in your congregation.  Tell me about Adrian

Ricky: Adrian now Sid let just say we see 100’s of miracles, but we don’t really make a big deal out them.  We don’t document them; people have been delivered from alcohol and drugs every day.  We see people delivered from homosexuality; we see people… we see tumors fall off. We see blind eyes open; we see deaf ears. We don’t really make a big deal.  The biggest miracle we see love come into people’s heart, joy, hope come into people’s lives.  We’ve seen them transformed right before our eyes through the love of God. But Adrian was a young lady that came to visit our church. And often times Sid too we don’t even pray for people.  When they walk in the building something supernatural takes place in their heart and in their life and they change.  And so it’s not like I don’t want to… it’s not like a big hype thing. Really, love is a decision and it’s action and that’s…  Listen being kind to the person at the grocery store; being gentle and really caring and genuinely caring that’s what love really is.  Love is action and so when people walk into our church or just simply come around us we see the power of God just touch their heart and their life.  Adrian was a young lady that came to visit out church; she had been battling with cancer since she was 14 years old; and it went into remission twice.  Here she comes to visit us about 18 years old in the church.

Sid: And that’s cancer of the ovaries.

Ricky: And that’s exactly right and she couldn’t get pregnant either; they said that she would never be able to have a baby. Well we prayed for her and God healed her of the cancer; we literally laid hands on her and prayed for her.  Then ultimately she got pregnant and so now she’s got a precious new baby and she is healed of cancer and that’s just one.

Sid: Now tell me of someone that had HIV AID’s.

Ricky: That’s a woman that came to us; her name is Lindy. Now let me tell her story; at our church is not a normal typical four wall church.  Our church is kicking it’s 21st century church.  It’s church on the move; it’s fun, it’s exciting. And there’s a coffee shop in our church; there’s an ice cream parlor, there’s a snack shop.  The youth has a car we cut in half; there’s Christian graffiti on the walls; the music is upbeat it’s not dead or stale.  And so here we are 4th of July shooting fireworks in our parking lot with the Fire Marshall with us. And Lindy is over strung out on cocaine and on heroin living on the streets across the railroad tracks. She sees all these fireworks and she thinks to herself, now this is what she’s told us since she’s given her life to the Lord and since she’s starting coming to our church and ultimately healed of even HIV. But she said, “I thought that any church that is shooting fireworks has got to be a cool church.” Sid let me tell you something; love does not put on a show; love doesn’t put on an act that’s hypocrisy.  Love is real and so she came to our church actually she tried to come to our church twice; she came into the parking lot on Sunday and could not get into the door twice.  On the third time she came to visit our church she made it into our service and then at the end of the service she came to the altar and gave her life to the Lord.  Then she had HIV and then ultimately she went to the doctor they tested her and she was… it was documented she had it and then it is documented that she is totally free of the virus of HIV.  And then we never even; listen Sid let me say this.  It’s not a big hype thing; it’s not a big hokey pokey, for lack of better terminology, a hokey pokey thing.  We never prayed for her; that’s what happens in the love of God it just simply happens because it’s supernatural and it’s a work of God.

Sid: Now God did such a miracle in your life and in your wife’s life and in your son’s life. And look at the destiny you would have had if God had not come into your life.  If you had not yielded really to God and look at all of these what 800 people come to your church right now. I haven’t been there yet but I am told that the whole atmosphere is like electric with the love of God.

Ricky: It is just simply the love of God; that’s what it’s all about.  It’s not putting on a mask; it’s not putting on a show; it’s not putting on an act acting like you’re something that you’re not.  It’s just simply being genuine and sincere and walking in love according to God’s plan.

Sid: Are you finding marriages are being restored by people that come to your church.

Ricky: By the 100’s.

Sid: By the 100’s.

Ricky: Listen, listen every family that comes here….

Sid: Don’t say that too loud my whole staff are liable to leave me and go out to your church; now you be still. (Laughing)

Ricky: I don’t want them, we’ll love them right on back to you. (Laughing)

Sid: Okay. (Laughing) You know I’m just getting to know you but you are carrying an anointing.  I guess that it’s got something to do with the brokenness you’ve gone through but it’s a gift from God.

Ricky: Yes Sir.

Sid: Walking in God’s love is a gift from God.  I know that it’s a decision but you’ve moved from the decision stage to the reality stage.  I believe that everyone that wants to walk in this love and this love realm and this God realm.  Someone’s neck and back and head and anything in the head you need you’re healed. Sinus conditions and in the head area you are whole in Jesus Name. But I believe Ricky if you will pray for people right now and backs are being healed so strongly; anyone that has a back problem  you just pull to the side of the road.  But don’t even do that right now Ricky, you pray for those that are hungering and thirsting to walk I the love of God realm please.

Ricky: Lord right now we just release Your love; God Your power to touch every heart and every life that’s listening to us today. And we thank You Lord that you’re doing great miracles in peoples’ lives right this second and right now in the Name of Jesus.  I thank you that joy is coming into people’s lives.  I thank you that you’re raising people up where they were downtrodden; where they were hurt Lord your encouraging them; your strengthening them right now.

Sid: Now Ricky with all the junk that you did are you a forgiven man?

Ricky: Yes Sir you got to walk in forgiveness. When you forgive what you’re saying is I hold no debt in any person.  And so when you forgive you say “I totally release you and let you go; my heart is clean and pure towards you.”  And then when you do that you release the power of God.

 Sid:  Ricky, were out of time.  Mishpochah if you don’t know Jesus just ask Jesus to forgive you of your sins. Tell Him you’re sorry and believe the blood of Jesus has washed that sin away and changed you. And ask Him to be your Messiah and Lord and live inside of you.

Our Guest Richard Mull

Mull

Sid: We want everyone everywhere that has heard the good news and received the Messiah to hear God’s voice for themselves.  And God has raised up Richard Mull so that he can mentor you in how to be normal. Normal as defined by the Bible; we have the most wonderful brand new Bible.  It’s the NET, the New English Translation, put out by Dallas School of Theology.  It is color coded for everything supernatural is one of the finest translations available in modern English.  It’s got an imitation leather cover; it’s very readable.  And what we want you to do is every time you find something color coded for angels or miracles or God speaking or dreams and visions. Or anything supernatural you can say “That’s mine; that’s what God wants me to have.”  And start meditating on it and let the word become flesh, you’ll literally be impregnated with the Word of God.  And then we have a four week workbook on how to hear God for yourself and I’m going to tell you something.  Things are coming on planet earth that if you don’t hear God’s voice it’ll be life threatening.  For instance, Richard Mull tell me about the time that you’re son died and had you not heard God’s voice he would have stayed dead.

Richard:  Yes, we actually had just gotten to the hospital.  Had been concerned for about 24 hours, we had seen him failing.  He was almost 2 years old and didn’t know that some medicines in his stomach had caused an ulcer in his stomach to rupture and he had been being poisoned by his own stomach juices.  So we got to the hospital and as I pulled him off of my chest the words that came out of my mouth were he’s gone.  He’s dead; and I set him down on the hospital bed and the girls that were in the room were just techs they left the room .And I began to pray over him; doctors immediately came in began to work on him.  They could not find a heartbeat; they said “He’s gone” and knew he was dead. Hooked him up to machines and could not get heartbeat, could not get blood pressure; continued to work on him.  While they worked on him I answered questions but most of the time I was praying out-loud pretty fearlessly because this is game on, and I’d been studying healing for 15 years and believed that I would see the dead raise.  But I hadn’t had that opportunity before the last thing that I ever thought was that it would be one of my own children.  But I thanked God that I understood that I understood our authority in the power of God. I began to operate and listen to the voice of God and rebuked death; I thought of every scripture I knew on healing prayed through each one of them. I knew that his spirit was gone; I knew that I was looking at just the shell because his spirit was gone. The son I knew was not there but I was telling him that Nathaniel you come back here now; you listen to your daddy and you come back here right now.  I remembered the passage where the father brought his son to Jesus and said “Lord heal my son” and Jesus said to him “Do you believe, Lord I believe help my unbelief.”  And in that moment I said “Lord you know I believe, Lord you know I’ve seen most of the miracles in the Bible.  But Lord help my unbelief I repent of any unbelief.  I want complete faith for this miracle right now.”  In that very moment I saw in the middle of this hospital room a boat being tossed by the wave.  The kind of boat Jesus and His disciples would have been in to fish.  And I saw that boat and in that boat Jesus was standing; it was right there in the middle of the room I saw this vision.  And I knew that that was God’s promise to me that my son was going to live.  Well, 8 minutes; 15 minutes; 22 minutes; 25 minutes; 30 minutes I knew that we had passed the barriers where they say “Brain damage happens and everything else begins to happen.”  And we got to 40 minutes and found his heart beat and his blood pressure and whisked him away.  They had discerned that “He had an ulcer that ruptured because of the medicines that he had been on. And the toxins had been poisoning and they told me that he will not make it through the operation and there is no way he is too weak there is no way. If he does he will be totally brain damaged.”  And I did not listen to what they were saying; I knew God had promised me that he would be well.  And we heard them one more time explain to us the hopelessness of the situation but we weren’t receiving anything that they were saying.  And our son today is full of joy and life; he makes us laugh all day long.

Sid: How long was he dead?

Richard:  Forty minutes

Sid: I mean if someone is dead for 40 minutes they should not even have a brain.

Richard:  Yeah.

Sid: He should be brain dead.

Richard:  He spent 10 weeks in recovery drug induced coma because of the operation.  His body had to heal and there were complications they had to do dialysis for a week and there were other things.  But God healed every part of his body and he came home.  When we came back for a checkup the doctor walked in the room and started to cry and turned around and walked out because he couldn’t believe what he was seeing.  Nathaniel was playing with a fishing pole catching fish with a magnetic fishing pole.  And the skill level involved in doing that is pretty high for any 2 year old and there he was you know catching fish with this fishing pole and just laughing and smiling.

Sid: Now a few years ago God spoke to you to sell your house do you know why God said that?

Richard:  He was actually speaking to us about first of all decluttering being ready to respond whatever he led us to do.  He also began to speak that there was destruction coming to cities in America.  And that we would need to be ready to move and to go.  That was my wife that first heard about selling the house and if you know my wife that is not what she would typically think or want to do.  We love our house; we love where we live but we learned God’s voice.  And we’ve learned every time we obey Him we hit a home run.  But the first time He told us we didn’t listen and if we had we would have been able to pay cash for our house just 2 years later.

Sid:  You hear from God and the most amazing miracles are happening.  For instance, briefly, because of whose hands because of such severe arthritis were about ready to be amputated.

Richard:  We knew that that type of arthritis comes from self-hatred and as we were ministering to her the Holy Spirit just impressed upon me to ask her if there was anything that she hadn’t been able to forgive herself for.  And in that moment she asked if her daughter could be excused from the room because she had come with her daughter and her daughter left the room.  And she opened up to us about something that happened when she was a young girl that she had never been able to forgive herself for.  That day she forgave herself; it took a while because if was one thing for her to believe God forgave her but it was another thing to receive His forgiveness.  She knew it all of her life but she never received it because she never deserved it she felt.  So she received God’s forgiveness and then I asked her can you forgive yourself now.  And she said “No, I could never do that.”  And I said “If the highest court in the land abdicates them of their sin; removes them of their guilt; can a lower court hold them accountable?”  She said, “No.”  Do you realize that you’re putting yourself above God?”  If you can receive His forgiveness do you believe your justice is greater than His?”  And she said “That doesn’t sound really good does it?”  “No, but would you agree that that’s what you’re doing?” And she said “Yeah.”  And she forgave herself and God totally healed her hands that day.

Sid: Could you briefly tell me, this is amazing, about a pastor it’s ready to divorce his wife after 18 years of marriage and what happened real quick.

Richard:  Yeah, this was 11:00 at night which isn’t my time of day.  And I said “God I want to know right off the bat what the issue is that we need to deal with.”  And we had our brief introduction, a little chit chat and I said “Whose Karen?”  Because I had been getting the name Karen. And he said “I don’t know.”  Somebody in your church named Karen? No.  Somebody in your past named Karen? And he said “Yeah.”  And he said “I dated a girl when I was 15.”  And I said “You had sexual relations with her?  And he said “Yeah.”  I said “You have her picture in your wallet and you have her phone number on the back of the picture.”  And he said “Yeah.”

Sid: How did you know that?

Richard:  You know I just learned to pay attention to the still small voice so it’s less than a whisper but it’s as clear as can be.  And I just knew in my spirit about those things.  And I just often praise Him in the form of a question because sometimes even when you are right people either want to hide something or its different things.  I was just wording it I was like “Is there a picture in your wallet?” And he was like yeah. And her phone numbers on the back of the picture. And you fantasize about her when your with your wife.  Every question was “Yes.”  And I said “You’ve got an ungodly soul tie with a woman that you had a relationship with 36 years ago and you got to break up with that fantasy or you’re going to be miserable.

Sid: What happened when he broke that fantasy through prayer?

Richard:  His ministry was restored, his marriage he’s happily married.  He actually has a healing ministry in his church and God kept him from walking away from the ministry, and his wife and family.

Sid: Okay, you’ve been listening to us all this week and you’ve been thinking “That is wonderful for Richard Mull but what about me God?  Well, I’m telling you this is why God raised up Richard Mull to mentor you in hearing God’s voice for yourself.

Our Guest Tatsuo Akamine

Sid: My guest comes from Japan his name is Tatsuo Akamine and I met Tatsuo at a meeting for America for Jesus.  And for those that are not familiar with America for Jesus   on the mall in Washington D.C. on October 22 there is going to be a gathering of believers for one purpose to pray and fast that America will remain the greatest country in the world.  The country that can literally proclaim the gospel to the four corners of this earth. We are at the most critical juncture of the history of the United States of America. If politicians get in that are for death, it’s called the nicer term is called abortion. If they are for murdering the babies in the womb; if they are for homosexual marriages; if they are for what Hollywood’s agenda is, then this country doesn’t stand a chance. This is our final warning.  So when I was at the coordinator’s meeting for America for Jesus I met a young man from Japan Tatsuo Akamine, and Tatsuo has been called from Japan to the United States sovereignly, supernaturally.  Just briefly Tatsuo how does someone that’s raised a Buddhist, the short version become a believer in Jesus?

Tatsuo: Well Sid my whole story is absolutely supernatural. I was raised as a Buddhist you know Japanese kind of almost synonymous with each other. And I was taught that Christianity Jesus was simply the western religious institution and I was a son of the east. Therefore, I was Buddhist I never went to church in my life and never read the Bible.  But I had an encounter with Jesus that just revolutionized my life.

Sid: Well, you got to tell me how?

Tatsuo: Well, it was near death experiences there in high school and we were kind of messing around in the showers and like a lot of young teenage boys during that time you get very mischievous we kind of flooded the hallway showers. As I was running to slide 10 to 15 feet and on to my belly, instead I fell backwards and slammed the back of my head on that tile floor. Went into a coma and doctors had very little to say to my mother in terms of maybe I’m coming out. And if I did recover I would be a vegetable.  But two days later by the grace of God I did recover. And it was during a two week period that I had to stay home out our shear boredom and just kind of boredom I read this tract this Bible tract and it talked about Jesus.  And I said “Lord, I don’t know if you’re really out there but if you are I ask you to come into my life and if you died for my sins come into my life and save me.” And Sid I can’t explain it other than if you know Jesus you know what I’m talking about.  A presence of another world, I never had any experience like this invaded my heart and my mind and my soul.  I knew at that point that Almighty God existed and my life has never been the same since and has never been the same till this day and never will.

Sid: Now you have in the natural an impossible call from God.  You are calling for a million, no I take it back 20 million Christians to be involved in corporate fasting worldwide 200 million Christians starting on Yom Kippur that ‘s September 24th for a 40 day fast. Number 1 why are you doing this? Why does someone have to come from Japan to tell us American believers to fast at the most critical point of the history of America?

Tatsuo:  Well God’s ways are above our ways and you know one thing that I want to make mention Sid is that you know when something is of God it’s never 1 individual…

Sid: Is that because He can’t trust individuals (Laughing)

Tatsuo:  (Laughing) I don’t know it’s His sovereign choice. And I’m just simply just one of many that God has spoken to. There have been people such as Ray Brigham of World Prayer Summit, and Gary Bergel, and Allen Copeless of Intercessors for America.  Chuck Pierce, you got people like Bill and Beth Morocco of Community Prayer Watch, Lou Engle that God spoke to simultaneously. And when the Lord began to speak to my heart on the West Coast calling for a national 40 days of corporate prayer and fasting for National repentance it just resonated with these other individuals. And soon I mean within weeks it has turned into a firm storm, I mean from west coast all the way to eastern seaboard states. This is nothing but a hand of God and the way we see it I mean none of us really have any money. It started on my side with a phone call to Vanette Brights office back at the end of April.  Mary, her assistant, had given me Ray Brigham’s telephone number. And we connected and he had the similar vision to call for this most critical time in our nation’s history.  We are at that cusp to either coming to God in either whole sale repentance because that is the only hope of the nation, or to face the inevitability of His holy severity.

Sid: Now let me as you a question.  A lot of people have been saying things like you’re saying for many years now what makes you think that this is not just another bump in the road?

Tatsuo:  Well, you got to look at where we are in the nation here in America.  As you mentioned briefly, I was in a missionary in Japan for 15 years. You know coming back here the Lord placed on my heart as well as other missionaries for revival in America. And revival is always proceeded by repentance, and repentance is always proceeded by a massive ground swell of prayer that moves into our nation. And one of the things that I noticed as I speak with other leaders, I was speaking with Gary Bergel this morning. The rate in which this thing is spreading across the nation is beyond human capability.  It is not like another time; in fact as I look at what’s taking place here in the nation and the enthusiastic response of God’s people and the dictates of 2nd Chronicles 14. The response is not just going nationally but is going internationally.  I believe that we are at the beginnings of the greatest prayer movement in the history of Christianity.  As it impacts the United States and simultaneously around the world.

Sid: Okay, you’re talking… your calling… God is calling for a 40 day fast from September 24th which is the beginning of Yom Kippur until November 2nd which just happens to be election day in the United States for president.  Help me out, some people are going to fast with just water, other may fast one meal a day.  What are your suggestions?

Tatsuo:  You know we’re just trusting the Holy Spirit, if you know the Lord Jesus I want you to pray. Ask God, Almighty God how is it You want me to respond during this solemn time. Do you want me to fast one day a week, there are people who are diabetic and physically cannot fast from food and that’s fine. Well they can fast from television and instead read the word of God, get together with others that are praying. There will be others that God will be called for an extended 40 days others for 2 days a week; I don’t know were not putting…

Sid: Alright your spiritual hunch if we get the proper prayer from believers, and by the way that includes you.  If we get the proper prayer from believer paint me a picture of what could happen to America.

Tatsuo: Well, you know the solution to our nation, the solution to our family, to the solution of our region is us coming back in brokenness in genuine repentance to almighty God. When that happens our lives are transformed, a new obedience and from that obedience it impacts our society, it will impact those around us. You see this is not a program, it’s not a man made program; this is something that God is calling us to. And we can see this nation completely turned around and it’s happened in history.  And in fact Sid this year is the centennial of the Walsh revival back in 1904. Evan Roberts message was simple it was repentance we must turn from all known sin. We must obey the promptings of the Holy Spirit.

Sid: And isn’t it amazing because you wanted to have the fast for 40 days before the presidential and it just happened to begin on September 24th which just happens to be Yom Kippur. A Jewish day of atonement in which we Jewish people go in the synagogues beat on upon our chest and say “God we’re sinners forgive us.” Do not remove our name from the book of life.

Tatsuo: Absolutely.

Sid: And that’s what we Jews and look how Jews and Christians are going to come together on this repentance. And after all isn’t that the reason the book of Ephesians says that ‘s the reason that Jesus came?  He came to break down the middle line of separation between Jews and Gentiles to form the One New Man. Now if people what to get some additional information they can go to your web site and what is that?

Tatsuo:  The national website is: www.40daysusa.org

Sid: Mishpochah if you’ve never done anything like this before I don’t want you to pray about it I want you to do something.  Something means whatever God shows you.  It maybe one meal a day, it maybe deserts, it maybe sugar.  It maybe TV it maybe something and when you do that repent.  You know Tatsuo a lot of people could fast and go on their merry way and miss the purpose of the fast if they’re not repenting along with fasting.

Tatsuo:  Absolutely.

Sid:Once again on September 24th of all days the holy day of Yom Kippur when Jewish people are praying and fasting that our names will be inscribed in the book of life that our sins will be forgiven; this is the date that has been called to start this 40 day fast, then on October 22nd America for Jesus. A million Christians are going to gather on the mall in Washington, DC. If you would like more information on America for Jesus their web page is www.AmericaforJesus.org.

Our Guests Gennady & Svetlana

Gennady & Svetlana

Sid:  I have a Russian Jewish woman that is so red-hot for the Messiah, her name is Svetlana. You met her husband Gennady yesterday and this is a wonderful Messianic Jewish couple red-hot for the Messiah. As I said to Gennady yesterday Svetlana who would have thought that God was going to open up a supernatural door where you and your husband could speak on secular Russian radio in the land of Israel without compromising and holding back on the gospel, and large numbers of Russian Jews in Israel that have similar backgrounds to what you and Gennady had before you came to know the Messiah are going to be listening.  Then you offer my book in Russian of the 10 Jewish testimonies; this is a book that God told me in a dream to write.  He said “More Jewish people would come to know him through this book than anything I have ever done.” And history shows that that was from God.  And it’s 10 Jewish people; a Jewish concert pianist, actually a Russian Jewish concert pianist, a mega-millionaire; a PhD, a holocaust survivor; Jews from every walk of life that came to the conclusion that Yeshua was the Messiah.  We offer that we offer that free of charge and I might add we’re out of the books and we just ordered another 50,000 of them.  And you told me something Svetlana you said “Sid your testimony book you had printed in Russian and that I should reprint that, why?”

Svetlana: Yes, why Sid because right now Jewish people are waiting to think in the supernatural.  Because of the openness of everything especially in the previous Soviet Union.  And the gospel is flowing free also is a lot of cults and occults flowing free.  So many people are open to the supernatural realm and I know that personally many people who are involved in that trying to know their future.  And trying to go to occultists and…

Sid: But let me interrupt you Svetlana for those who do not know my testimony I’ve been a Jewish believer in the Messiah for over 30 years. But the first 30 years of my life I was a secular Jew coming from an Orthodox Jewish background. I got involved in what back then was called the occult and today is called the New Age.

Svetlana: Yes.

Sid: So what Svetlana is saying is my testimony would so relate to Russian Jews today. And we are believing God; I mean we had a scrape to do these last 50,000 of the Russian versions of “They Thought for Themselves.” But I want to do 100,000 of the book “There Must be Something More.”  That’s my full testimony in Russian, we already have it laid out and done and it’s just a matter of printing a 100,000 and I need to do another 75,000 of “They Thought for Themselves.”  And you know Svetlana I just believe that this is time for the Russian Jews to come in large numbers to the Messiah.

Svetlana: Yes Sid, yes and you know I personally believe that they’re very open.  I believe that the Russian Jews is one of the most open Jewish people which is open right now to the gospel.

Sid: Now tell me a bit about yourself; tell me where you were raised and what your understanding of God and Judaism and heaven and hell was.

Svetlana: Okay I grew up in communist Russian and of course I had no religious background whatsoever.  I was totally atheist, total.  But you know in my heart, in my deep deep heart it was a fear of death.  I couldn’t understand why I was afraid of dying.  And I had a Grandma whom I loved very much and she loved me very much too. And I asked him when I was 3 years old I said “Grandma, will I ever die?” And she said “No my dear, you will never die.”

Sid: Hm.

Svetlana: Can you imagine and he just couldn’t understand how right he was at that time. I constantly just imagined myself dying and then what nothingness, nothing but blackness.  I couldn’t imagine stop existing.  And that fear was paralyzing me, but of course we never heard about God or the Bible. Anything we heard about our religion it was very negative. They had books on religion that was very negative and scary so the propaganda was very strong against any religion.  And of course against Jewish people,  Jewish people was the persecuted minority.

Sid: Now where did you meet Gennady?

Svetlana: (Laughing) We lived in Russia, we fell in love as children and we left for Canada.  My dream always was to leave Russian and live in a free country, it was my dream.  And of course when I met Gennady we get married and shortly after we came to Canada.

Sid: Okay, now the story continues with Gennady if you’ll put him on the phone.

Svetlana: Yes, just a minute.

Sid: Now Gennady and Svetlana have a congregation in Montreal, Canada right now. Gennady are you there?  Hi Gennady, I want to find out you and your wife meet fall in love and you want to be a big musician, a rock star, you came to Canada.  What did you first think when you came? How different was it from the former Soviet Union?

Gennady: Well first of all I was looking for a great freedom in Russia I didn’t have that. When I was going to the west I knew that we had come into the land of freedom.  When we came there was much freedom, a lot of freedom.  I mean everything was available, you could go and buy any instrument you want, you rent an apartment with stove and fridge and telephone right away.  In Russia in our days you have to wait 20 years in line to get a telephone to get connected.

Sid: Hmm.

Gennady: It was quite free. So my first car was bought in Canada and so it was the land of milk and honey in those days for me.

Sid: But you met a very interesting couple that invited you to a prayer meeting over their house. Why did you go?

Gennady: Well I was invited… I just want to go back just a few seconds.  I thought that my life would be completely satisfied in Canada and I would kind of find myself here and I would be totally happy.  But when I met with the reality face to face I couldn’t find the job that I was looking for as a musician and everything else.  My language was very low so I had to take any position that was available and I took just a minimum job to meet the needs of my family. A few years later we met a couple through other people and God sent these people from Northern Manitoba it’s another providence in Canada to this city specifically. They had a radio program in Ukrainian, and then when we met them they were an elderly couple and I was not looking for friends who will be older than me twice or more. I’m just sorry to say that but that was my mentality and I was about 24, 25, 26 years of age and in any case when they invited us to hear them once when it was sort of like a house meeting it was a Jewish home and these people they knew the Lord these Jewish couple. And when we came to listen to this man what had attracted me that he was speaking on miracles that he experienced in his life.  Somebody was healed from a severe disease and that caught my attention. Also when he was speaking I felt in that little living room it was different atmosphere it was peace, it was joy unspeakable.  I couldn’t understand; I never felt that in my life.  Whatever I was looking for I never felt that in my life such peace and joy and happiness. I thought to myself and to my wife “Something happens here, let’s meet with this man again and see what he has to say.”

Sid: Now if there were not miracles, and I know that it’s difficult to answer this, but if there were not miracles would you have been attracted to keep going back?

Gennady: No I was not interested in God because I didn’t believe that God existed.

Sid: So you see Mishpochah it’s the miracles.  God knew what he was saying when He said “The Jew requires a sign.”  So you actually started reading the Bible and asking God if He was real?

Gennady: Not right away when we met with this people we began to meet with them on a regular basis at their home they were very hospitable and they begin to tell us then. They begin to tell us about Abraham, Isaac and Jacob; I was amazed this people they were Ukrainian and to my knowledge when I was living in Russia the Ukrainian people they were very anti-Semitic.  So I thought to myself “How did this man being Ukrainian living in Canada knows about my Jewishness more than I do.” And he would point to me from the Bible left and right about my roots about Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, about my history. My interest was very very caught to this. And then they begin to witness to us for about 8 months, we developed very good friendship between each other.  My wife and myself and these people. At the end of this 8 month journey as God knew one day I was in my room it was in the living room…

Sid: I’m sorry we’re out of time here but Mishpochah can see how God created Gennady and Svetlana to do Russian evangelistic radio on secular radio stations.  Right now we’re in Israel and the Russian Jews are exactly where Gennady and Svetlana used to be so they’re telling the basic stories but they’re not compromising on the gospel.  And now were in Germany on a Russian Jewish secular; it’s not Jewish but it’s a Russian secular station and there are over 100,000 Russian Jews that have recently immigrated to Germany. And we have opportunities to take his Russian show throughout the entire former Soviet Union.  I’d like to put it throughout the United States.  Only money is stopping us from developing this. And we must publish more books because we offer the book “They Thought for Themselves” the 10 Jewish testimonies that God Himself told me to write this book. And we need the money to do my testimony book in Russia. And I believe that God’s going to provide this, it’s God’s time.  But I’m concerned about America Jews, I’m concerned about the Jewish person that God Himself has had cross your path.

Our Guest Zona Hayes-Morrow

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Sid:  My guest Zona Hayes-Morrow; your probably familiar with her father Norvel Hayes.  And on yesterday’s broadcast we found out for a teenage girl is a real tragedy 42 growths on her body.  Even when the doctors would cut them out they’d grow back and even move would grow; so her father stopped dealing with that; he’s praying but nothing is happening. Kenneth Hagin is a guest in that area and their personal friends; and Kenneth Hagin says “All I have to do is curse those growths and they’ll go.”  And then what happened Zona?

Zona:  Well then we went down to the house after my dad said well to himself he said “I’m going to get Brother Hagin aside and ask exactly what he does to get growths to leave.”  Well he, got to talking when we got down there and I had to go to bed because I had to get to school the next day. My dad they went on to bed and in the middle of the night Brother Hagin got up and he knocked on my dad’s door.  And he said “Narvel I’m going to have to go to my sister’s really early in the morning because the Lord spoke to me and told me I’d have to go minister to my sister because this would be last time I would see her she is going to go to Heaven.”  So he left early the next morning and then after he left on up in the morning my dad thought to himself “I didn’t get to ask Brother Hagin what his secret was to getting growths to disappear.”  Well, he was just very disappointed and so a few weeks later, he’d been praying and asking the Lord to remove the growths off of my body, and I was in the living room with my boyfriend because I wasn’t allowed to date yet so he could come and visit me at my house.  And I was in the living room talking to him on the couch and my dad was walking in the dining room and all of a sudden he was in paradise. It was like the air was fresh; I mean it’s beyond fresh.

Sid: He went to a different dimension he was literally taken to Heaven.

Zona:  He was literally taken to Heaven; his spirit… he left his body and he saw himself back down in the dining room.  So he went up to Heaven and he said he just knew it was Heaven. All of a sudden this voice out of nowhere strong it said “How long are you going to put up with the growths on your daughter’s body?”  And my dad said… he knew it had to be the Lord; he said “What do you mean put up, there not on my body I didn’t put them there?”  And all of a sudden left God half mad he could tell by his voice and not that you could get upset in Heaven but he was just stern with him and “You’re the head of your house whatever you put up with in your house that is not victory is your fault; if you’ll curse those growths at the root just like I did the fig tree and you’ll believe and not doubt son those growths will disappear but you have to believe and not doubt.” And he said “Just as fast as he went up into Heaven he came back into his body” and I’m still in the living room with my boyfriend and he walks in the living room like a lion and he went “Zona!”  I said “I didn’t do anything dad; I didn’t do anything!”

Sid: [Laughing]

Zona: And he knelt down on the floor and he said “I just went to Heaven and he said “The Lord told me what to do with those growths and I’m taking authority as the head of this house.  And I’m cursing those growths at the root and I’m going to command that those growths disappear and they will have no choice.  And I’m going to believe and not doubt and they will disappear.” All of a sudden he said “Son you put your hands on my daughter’s knees, and I’ll put my hands on your hands…” And he said “On no no no wait a minute wait hold on and let me put my hands on my daughter’s knees and then you put your hands on my hands and I want to curse these growths at the root and I’m going to command them that they disappear and I’m going to believe and not doubt and they are going to disappear; do you believe that?”  He said “Whatever you say Mr. Hayes whatever you say.”

Sid: (Laughing) Oh I’ve seen your dad a lot and no one argues with your dad, but go ahead.

Zona:  Especially the devil (Laughing).  But anyway he cursed those growths and for 90 days every waking moment that I was around him and you’d ask him a question and I’d say “What are we going to cook for supper?”  And he’d said “Well, we’re going to cook pork chops and I thank you Lord for removing those growths from my daughter’s body.”  And we’re going to have a salad, and thank you Lord for removing Lord those growths on my daughter’s body.”

Sid: Did they drive you nuts?

Zona:   Oh it drove me… yes, after 30 days of it I met him in the hall and I said… he was coming out of his room and I was coming out of the bathroom in the hall. And I said “Dad stop, hold on” I said “Look at me, you’re driving me nuts,” I said “Every waking moment it’s thank you Lord for removing the growths off of my daughter’s body;  look at my hands do you see that it’s not working?”  He looked at my hands and he put his head and he snapped his fingers and turned around one time and said “Nope I don’t see nothing all I see is skin like baby’s skin; thank you Lord for removing the growths off of my daughter’s body.”

Sid: Well, were they removed?

Zona:   Not at that time; he saw beyond what my hands know.

Sid: Yeah, but you had a say dad, “What are you talking about the growths,” did you say that to him?

Zona:  I sure did it wasn’t my faith that rose up that got rid to them because I was living under my dad’s roof; he was my father he was the head of the house. This was a lesson to be taught to people that were in their homes that they can take authority over the devil over things that that go on in their home.  And so about 40 days later… I counted these growths every day Sid and that morning there was 45 of them; I mean 42 of them.  And I counted them later on in that day at the house and there was 30 of them.  So when my dad got in I was sitting there waiting on him and he said “What’s wrong?”  And I said “Well, I just want to tell you it’s really weird,” I said “I counted these growths this morning and there was 42 and now I said at 6:00 at night and I said there’s only 30 of them.  I have looked everywhere for 12 of them and I don’t know where they went; I looked in the vacuum cleaner, I’ve looked under my bed, I’ve looked in the living room, I looked in the kitchen, I’ve looked everywhere and I can’t find any of them.”  And he said… and of course he did a little dance and he turned around and he snapped his fingers in the air again and he said “Praise the Lord those other 30 don’t have no choice, thank you Lord for removing growths off of my daughter’s body.”  He just kept on and on and on with the tenacity stubborn, bulldog faith saw my hands clear with the eyes of faith.  Then about 90 days later I came in from school and there was 30 growths on my hands and I went back to my bedroom and I was changing out my dresses and my clothes  in my closet and I’d reach up and get a hanger, and my dad was in the kitchen cooking, and I reached up for my hanger and there would be the 30 growths and I would see them on my hands, and my wrists and arms and my legs and I’d reach up and there they would and I reached up and at the sixth time I reached up every one of them had disappeared; everyone.

Sid: What affect did this have on you?

Zona:  I about past out it scared me so bad, I fell against my dresser and I ran out of that room as fast as I could and my dad came out of the kitchen and he said “Zona, Zona what’s wrong with you?”  I said, “I’m going to tell you right now, this is the spookiest business I’ve ever been around,”  I said “I was hanging up my cloths and there was 30 growths, look at my hands dad, look at my hands, there’s no sign of no growths on my hands, my legs and my elbows; look they’re all gone.”  And we cried and the Holy Spirit’s presence came in there and I was hugging my dad.  And I said “dad, you tell mean to tell me and I don’t even do anything for God, you do everything, you feed the poor, you speak at Full Gospel Businessmen’s meetings, you win souls I just tag along, and I said “You mean God loves me enough to remove growths even if I don’t do anything for him?” and I said “He loves me that much?”  And he said “Yes Zona” and the presence of God came in there so strong that we just both stood there holding each other in strength and just kept crying.

Sid: I have to ask you a question though, okay we fast forward a number of years and you’re just out of high school and you marry Bobby and he goes to war and while he’s there he divorces you; and you move back with your dad.  And you become backslidden and you’re going out clubbing every night and just partying as much as you can how, does someone that had that experience and that father fall away?

Zona:  Well, I saw a lot of foolishness in ministry all my life; I watched people use my dad and I watched people use him to be able to receive big offerings and I saw a lot of phony things in ministry.  And I mean I would check them off; I mean I would remember them and then my mother left when I was 8 ½; that was devastation and ministry business took my dad and I was a lot of times by myself a lot growing up and with an aunt or whatever and that was a little resentment there. And just immaturity on my part and just realizing that my dad was like one of the disciples; just take up your cross and follow me.  You have no mother, you have no father, no sister, no brother even though he loved me more than anything on this earth I wasn’t mature enough in me to understand because I was still operating out of so much rejection because my mother didn’t want anything to do with me.

Sid: Now your father must have been really desperate and a couple by the name of the Goodwins prophesied; what did they prophesy?

Zona:  Well, they were driving in the car and sister… they prophesied Sister Goodwin prophesied and she said “The thing that you want the most will never happen.”  When she comes in at 2 or 3:00 in the morning you tell her you love, you tell her I love her and you shut up because she doesn’t believe anybody else loves her she’s gone too far out in darkness to come back on her own; you are going to have to stand in the gap for her so don’t tell her how you feel you just tell her you love her and Jesus loves her and then shut up.”

Sid: Okay, speaking of shut up we’re out of time right now…

Our Guests Felix & Bonnie Halpern

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Sid: I have on the telephone Rabbi Felix and Bonnie Halpern speaking to them at their home at Wyckoff, New Jersey.   And they have a One New Man Messianic Jewish Congregation that is wonderful.  I was there and Bonnie you are not aware of this but when I was at your congregation you started talking about your love for Jewish people and your desire to see them come to know the Messiah.  And I saw real tears coming down your eyes as you were talking about that.  Why is it so tender to you?

Bonnie: Well, because I know truth; I walk in truth and I have family that does not know who the truth…

Sid: And by the way for those that are just tuning in Rabbi Felix are Jewish and both of Bonnie’s parents are Jewish and go ahead.

Bonnie: Yes and I know that the Jewish people are still waiting for their Messiah and I look at my family and family around and friends around.  I grew up in a Jewish community and I look around and say “How long are we going to wait?” And the Bible gives us the answer. I live in a time of freedom; I live in a place of hope, a place of peace that Jewish people absolutely cannot have while their still in pursuit and waiting.  And it breaks my heart; I know what the truth is I know where my eternity is going to be spent.  And to see Jewish people live the way that they live every day of their life waiting and waiting passing through this life and not knowing is devastating to me.

Sid: You have had notable miracles happen in your congregation but even to yourself.

Bonnie:  Yes. 

Sid: Tell me a few notable things that have happened to you.

Bonnie:  Well, I’ve had 3 supernatural miracles one going all the way back to 1980, where I was told I would never be able to have children I had a condition called endometriosis and went to see 5 of the best specialists in New York and as they call them the Ivory Towers and they told me I would never be able to have children.  And that was the greatest desire of my heart and so I went to a healing service first one I had ever experienced and then a man laid hands on my abdomen and I felt heat go through my entire torso, my entire body.  And with a couple weeks after that I was pregnant with my daughter who is now 24 years old.  So I would say I never saw another doctor again, never had a pain and my endometriosis was completely supernaturally on the spot healed.

Sid: And by the way I was watching your daughter worship God and that’s got to get you so excited to see.

Bonnie:  It really does; they really love God; they’ve seen the miracles themselves.  So they don’t have to question they’re not growing up with a curiosity about God.  They’ve had encounters with God and they’ve seen the miracles happen right in our midst; so they’ve known truth right from the beginning.

Sid: What happened with your teeth?

Bonnie:  Well, I’ve had two oral surgeries in my life, two root canals and the dentist messed up both of them.  One was not properly drilled; the other one was over drilled.  They both turned into very bad infections and I went to a specialist who was going to have to do surgery and explained it to me.  They were going to have to go from underneath and go through an area where my jawbone was, and it was very traumatic.  We went to service one night where there was a man who did move in signs and wonders and out of the entire congregation there must have been at least about 1500 people there he walked down a center aisle right to me when I stood up.  I never said a word to him but he grabbed my jaw and he said “In the name of Jesus, Yeshua be healed” and I didn’t even feel anything.   I went home with pain as I came and I ate in the morning and it was killing me and I felt like “Well, it wasn’t healed.”  But I went to the Oral Surgeon who took the last X-rays and came out and said “I have to do another X-rays.” He took a total of before and after and said to me “I have no explanation, I don’t understand you do not need surgery.”

Sid: (Laughing)

Bonnie:  And I gave a testimony of it on New Year’s Eve at a church of 1500 people and they put up the before and after X-rays on the slides that the whole church could see so that was a total confirmation.  And to this day have never had surgery, and never had a pain.

Sid: And what was even better than that Bonnie is your whole congregation saw a miracle happen on your foot.

Bonnie: Yes, last February I had broken my foot on Shabbat, Friday night, it was Shabbat on some gym equipment and I didn’t know it was broken even though it looked it.  And in the morning my foot was twisted and my foot was completely black from the blood inside of it.  I was going to go to service; we have healing services the first Shabbat of every month and I was going to go and wait on the Lord if not I was going to go to the hospital.  And people carried me in.  In the middle of the service I was sitting down in the front with a microphone and just speaking and I felt the Holy Spirit say to me “Remove your sock.”  And I did and I felt a cool breeze go across my foot and without even realizing it people were looking at me; I was standing up on my foot.  I couldn’t even put my foot down in that position; the pain was so bad and I was standing up on my foot and in front of the entire congregation my toe was back to normal, it was no longer crooked and the black and blue it never completely went away but it was like a supernatural drawing all went together in a very very small area of my toes instead of my foot.  And before the end of the service I was literally dancing around on my toes, I do flags and banners up, on my toes and my feet and never ever wound up going to the hospital.

Sid: Out of curiosity did you feel anything when God was healing you?

Bonnie: I felt nothing, I wasn’t even aware that it was happening but I was also not even aware that I was standing up and dancing around until I stopped and said “Oh, my gosh, oh my gosh, oh my gosh.” Because everybody was looking at me and I was so just involved in the service and what God was speaking and doing I hadn’t even realized or felt a thing.

Sid: Okay, I’ve got to ask you a question that’s supernatural but there’s something even more supernatural than that.  Here you’ve got a husband that’s a professional you’re living the good life and I mean he’s making a 6 figure income. He’s a Vice President on the Diamond Exchange, he’s called into full-time ministry and that’s wonderful.  But then you get a word from God. Was it audible that you were to get rid of your stocks and bonds?

Bonnie:  Absolutely, it was in May of 2001 and I’ll never forget it as long as I live.  I can tell you the spot on my carpet.  I was making my bed and I heard an audible voice of God say to me “Get out of the system.” And I did not understand that my father was a financial man in New York and taught me about finances and where to put them. So for me to get out of the system I didn’t understand that at all. And I went into a fast I pursued God and  questioned Him until I had the answer.  The Lord had us remove everything out of the stock market.  We had mutual funds, CD’s everywhere we had it.

Sid: So where did you put the money if you took it out of all those places?

Bonnie: We felt the Lord just impress upon us that we were to put it into the Kingdom of God; anything that we turned over to God..

Sid:  But wait a second; that’s in the Bible people did that, people don’t do things like that in real life.

Bonnie:  Yes people do when you hear from God.  God’s out to protect us, He’s there for us and we took everything out including Social Security, including IRA’s…

Sid:  Are you tell me that you’re 100% dependent on God?

Bonnie:  One hundred percent and He’s provided for me every day.  I’ve never paid a bill late, I’ve never gone without a meal, my home is almost paid off by the supernatural gifts that God has impressed people to give us to do for us our car.  I do as good if not better as I did when my husband was making a 6 figure salary.

Sid:  Bonnie just as there is a supernatural key to see greater miracles than we’re seeing today in the churches even those that are having miracles there is something greater coming.  Tell me about that.

Bonnie:  Well I just believe that we’re in a very prophetic time in these end times and the Bibles clear about God’s heart and He’ll re-gather the remnant.  And how we are to as a One New Man work together in the fullness and that in this last days the Bible tells us that Jewish acceptance of the Messiah will be like life from the dead.  And we will see unprecedented spiritual awaking and signs and wonders. That as we prophetically walk this out together Jew and Gentile that there will be a great outpouring of signs and wonders and miracles.

Sid:  And what about the churches that are having some signs and wonders now but do not see the prophetic call of the Gentile Believer to provoke the Jew to jealousy to be that One New Man?

Bonnie:  Well, I just believe that they will not see the fullness but the church that will provoke the Jews to jealousy will happen.  I really believe that they will be the churches, they will be the Body that will together see the greater outpouring of signs and wonders and miracles.

Our Guest Peter Horrobin

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Sid: There is another flow it’s an outpouring of God’s Spirit that is moving right now; and there are people that not only pain in their neck that they’re being healed of but there’s a popping going on in someone’s ear.  And you had difficulty hearing in that ear or perhaps you were dead; and I say the reason the sound has gone up on the radio or the tape recorder is because you are healed.  But we’re getting ready to blow the grandest shofar, the grandest trumpet in Zion we want everyone everywhere to hear the good news.  We want everywhere to be red hot for the Messiah. And if you follow the keys being outlined this week some of the biggest obstacles to you being red hot for the Messiah to you have intimacy with God; to you being totally free and that’s why the Messiah came.  To you receiving your physical healing and your emotional healing is the teaching my guest from Lancaster, England Peter Horrobin. We’re talking about his book “The Most Powerful Prayer on Earth.”  Peter before we went on the air we were talking about what seems to be almost epidemic problem going on not just in the United States; worldwide and that’s barrenness, or people not being able to have a normal child, and the child dies before it comes to birth. Have you experienced with that and do you have any idea of the causes.

Peter:  Wow, we have experience… and there are quite a lot of different causes. One of the commonest problems, and this is a medically attested statistic is the people who had an abortion in their teenage years, when the get married later in life have a lot of difficulty in conceiving.  And abortion has become almost like a birth control method and there have been so much accepted that young people just get sucked into it without realizing what they’re doing; they are taking a life.

Sid: You know this is just coming to mind one of the highest percentage of abortions per capita in the world is my nation Israel.

Peter:  Hmm.

Sid: And it’s actually a form of birth control.

Peter:  It certainly has been in Eastern Europe extensively for generation.

Sid: Hmm.

Peter:  And when we have prayed into the abortions and asked God to bring healing there we’ve seen it in Eastern Europe with probably 75 – 85% of the women in the meetings they’re wailing as the grief comes out all the pain of the children that they have lost.  And the grief and pain is devastating but that’s another aspect of it.  And what we’ve prayed and for example with women in the US or Australia or in the UK who have had abortions and then later on in life they begin to realize what they’ve done. They’re just devastated that they have terminated a human life.  And they need to forgive themselves and this is another very important issue in forgiveness that sometimes we can forgive others but actually we’ll never forgive ourselves.  We’ll say something like “I’ll never forgive myself for this or that or the other.

Sid: Is it possible to have a deception in that area and to think you’ve forgiven yourself and you really haven’t?

Peter: Yeah, it is but it’s often very very real it’s not so much deception as the reality of people don’t feel but they’re forgivable.  And they are actually denying that the reality of what Jesus died for for them that they may be forgiven.

Sid: But the Bible does talk about unpardonable sin; what do you believe that is?

Peter: I don’t believe there is an unpardonable sin is abortion.  I think that’s what when somebody is actually committed abortion and often have done it without even knowing what they’re doing.  And Jesus saying the most powerful prayer on earth “Father forgive them they didn’t know what they were doing.”

Sid:  Well, my spin on the unpardonable sin is what the Bible says “Grieving the Holy Spirit to the point that you can’t come to repentance to get forgiveness.  So as long as you are convicted you have not done the unpardonable sin but go ahead.

Peter: If you are being convicted of sin the Holy Spirit is at work in your life.

Sid: Right.

Peter: And what we have seen with woman that have been unable to conceive a child is the heartbreak, has been married 6 years, 10 years more and they’re crying out to God. And when we actually take them through forgiving themselves, forgiving sometimes the father of the child, and asking God to release them from that child so that child is safe with God in Heaven.  And that they themselves are then able to be healed here on earth.  The power of God comes upon them and they time and again we get letters 9 months later.

Sid: Give me a real life situation; describe it to me.

Peter:  I was in Townsville in Australia at the end of one of our conferences years ago and this lady came up to me she had only been a Christian a couple of years. She’d gone through a lot of teaching on understanding about healing and understanding about forgiveness and she had been devastated between the age of 12 and 19 by sexual abuse she had been raped, she had almost every single day of her life by other members of her family.  Her internal system was so damaged that her doctors had said that she’s totally barren, her female system is not working, and it’d be impossible for her to ever conceive a child. And that was the situation.  I had an email from her just two or three weeks ago telling the story of how when she got married she believed that what we prayed had happened in her life that God was going to give her a child.  God told her to call this child Elijah as a thanksgiving. This was before she ever knew she was going to get pregnant and she fell pregnant, she had a son; she called him Elijah.  The doctors said “That it’s impossible for you to actually have conceived the child.” They said “Actually having conceived the child.” They said “She was so messed up on the inside” they didn’t think it was possible for her to survive the pregnancy. She survived the pregnancy and Elijah was born.  And I had the email just a couple of weeks ago saying “Thank you for what God had done.”

Sid: Peter, what about people that literally are blaming God for the problems in their life.

Peter:  It’s a common thing that people blame God. We need to actually to say sorry to God.  Sometimes in our teaching we say we need to forgive God; but that’s not that’s not strictly true because God has never sinned so we can’t forgive God for something when He’s not done anything wrong.  But you know there’s many people that blame God for what has happened.  They say “Oh God why did you do this, why did this happen, why didn’t and they blame Him.”  Now the reality is we’re living in a fallen world and all the bad things that have happened have come as a result of the fall and Satan is the one responsible.  And we need to say God I’m sorry for blaming You for what Satan has done and that again just lifts something off us which releases again the power of God within us.

Sid: I’m looking at this powerful book it’s called “The Most Powerful Prayer on Earth” but it’s packaged like a gift and did you do that intentionally?

Peter: Yes, it was packaged in that way so that it would be given to the people who might need help see.  There’s a lot of people who are struggling with huge issues in their life and what they’re asking for is God will you come and heal my symptoms.  And we see this time and time again; they want God to come and solve their problem out.  The reality is that God can’t override that freewill, He’s given us freewill choice we’re made in His image and likeness and God has freewill. And when we have our own choice on choosing to alienate ourselves from the presence and the power of God by bitterness in our heart then we will never be able to receive the healing that God wants to give us.  So what I did in putting this book together I put it together in a way which would actually help people to read very gently without coming under condemnation, and to understand the sort of issues that there are in life which become roots of bitterness and pain. Then help people try to deal with this in a very practical way.

Sid: Now was there specific moment a supernatural moment when you felt God directed you to write this book?

Peter: Yes there was.

Sid: Tell me about that.

Peter:  I was actually in South Africa we have a ministry in South Africa. We took 2 or 3 days out from the ministry to go into the game park and we were looking at elephants and giraffes and lions. And when you’re looking at sort of God’s natural creation something happens to you on the inside you actually release and for me personally to where I can hear God. And as we were driving along there this track in the Kruger National Park God spoke to me supernaturally and said “I want you to write this book, The Most Powerful Prayer on Earth.” Actually meditating upon Jesus worse on the cross and I realized that the most powerful prayer on Earth is the one that Jesus prayed when He said “Father Forgive them.”  And I realized that He couldn’t pray that prayer unless He had actually forgiven other people, and there in the Lord’s Prayer it talks about forgiving other people.   You know after Jesus had given us the Lord’s Prayer He said these awesome words “That if you do not forgive others for what they have done to you my Father in Heaven will not forgive you.”

Sid: So it’s a salvation issue forget just the blessing issue; it’s a salvation issue.

Peter:  Well, it’s salvation is a very broad word you know and the scripture sometimes we think about in terms of just salvation as being saved; being born again. But the same word that’s used for that is also translated to healing and deliverance in places.  And Isaiah 53, Isaiah’s looking forward to the Messiah coming, he’s talking about “By His stripes we are healed and our transgressions can be forgiven.” So salvation and healing go hand and hand and it is a salvation issue absolutely.

Sid: What about a nonbeliever, what affect would this book have on them Peter?

Peter: Well, I carried copies of this book with me on airplanes and so that I can give to people next door to me on the plane and things like that.  I think nonbelievers are inside they actually want to be a believer because there’s a cry in the heart for reality that God has put His Spirit within us. And so often things are so religious that it puts people off; the cant’ cope with religion but what they want is relationship and forgiveness is about restoration of relationship. When people see a restoration of relationship they actually becomes an opportunity for them to try to find salvation and relationship is critical.  God is a relational God and unforgiveness stands in the way of relationship its Satan’s way of preventing people from getting to know God. To say “I’ve been….but they don’t deserve to be forgiven.  You know that’s true because none of us deserve to be forgiven; forgiveness is grace and mercy.

Sid: Oh Peter we’re out of time…

Our Guest Ron Cantor

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SID: So Ron Cantor, Jewish college student after fun, into drugs, which, you know, all the college kids are into, has an encounter where electricity goes through his body. He knows that Jesus is the Messiah and he goes back to campus, and the first thing he does is tell everyone alive that Jesus is the Messiah. Ron, what would you tell a Jewish person that’s watching us right this moment the best reason why Jesus is the Messiah or what they should do?

RON: Well I would say, think for yourself. You know, one of the first things Jewish people do when they are intrigued with the person of Jesus is they go to their rabbi, who then looks up to see what the sages and the scholars thought before him. But rarely does someone actually think for themselves. What I did, is I went to the Bible and began to read it for myself. You see, I discovered that Yeshua actually was involuntarily put into a witness protection program so that the Jewish people of the world would not understand that this man Jesus, who over a billion Gentiles follow, not only was he Jewish, all of his followers were Jewish. In fact, here’s an incredible effect, Sid. When I got born again in 1983, the first thing I said to myself was, I guess I’m no longer Jewish. Now that I believe Jesus, just through osmosis, growing up in the synagogue, we were made to understand that you could not mix Jesus and Judaism. But as I began to read the New Covenant, they’re all Jewish. The entire early congregation were all Jews. On the day of Shavuot, when the Holy Spirit fell on Jerusalem, Peter, who’s actual name was Kefa, which means rock, he stood up and preached to thousands upon thousands of Jews. We know that at least 3000 Jewish men that day became a believer, believers. They were immersed in water. We know that many years later when Paul visits Jerusalem, Jacob, which is actual the name of James. Nobody ever called him James. Great name for a butler or chauffer, but not for the brother of a Jewish Israeli Messiah. His name was Jacob.

SID: My Bible says James. How come?

RON: Well that’s because it’s a mistranslation. Most Bibles in other languages actually properly call him Jacob. That was his name. The actual Greek for James and Jacob are very close. And when the King James folks were authorized to translate the Bible, they substituted Ichamus for Ichabus. And it—

SID: Okay. It’s Ichabot to me. But go ahead.

RON: But a story about James, Peter, Paul, Mary, that is not a Jewish story. But when this guy named Paul, a lot of people were taught that his name was Paul. Then he got born again and he changed it from Saul to Paul to get rid of his horrible Hebrew and then take on a wonderful Christian name. Of course, there were no Christian names at that time. Paul was just a Latin typical Roman name. But he didn’t change his name. The Bible says, “Saul, who was also called Paul.” He had two names, just like I do, just like you do. As Jews, we grow up outside of Israel with a name. My name is Ron, which is what people in most countries of the world, but I also have a Hebrew name, Chaim, which means “life”, by the way. Paul had two names. But this guy Paul comes into Jerusalem, meets Jacob, the brother of Yeshua.

SID: This is beginning to sound so Jewish. How did something so Jewish become, we can’t be Jewish and believe in him. It makes no sense to me.

RON: Well the way it happened, let me just finish up real quick. He comes and he finds Jacob. Jacob says, “Paul, look how many tens of thousands of Jews right here in Jerusalem have believed and are zealous for the Torah.” There was a Jewish revival in Jerusalem in the greater, what we call the greater Tel Aviv area today in Galilee. Here’s a funny thing. I said earlier, in 1983, that I thought I was no longer Jewish until I began to read the Bible. But in the New Covenant, the big controversy wasn’t can a Jew believe in Jesus and still be Jewish. It was can a Gentile believe in Jesus without first becoming Jewish. There were many evangelists telling Gentiles who wanted to come into the Kingdom, great, you can come in, but you have to be circumcised and become Jewish. They had a big council in Acts, Chapter 15 to decide, not that a Jew is still a Jew. Of course, Peter and Paul, and Jacob, of course they were still Jews. They had to decide, do Gentiles have to first become Jewish.

SID: How did this whole thing get turned upside down, and frankly, what, I see the difference it makes to Jewish people. If we find out that Jesus is one of ours, Yeshua, he’s a nice son of a Jewish carpenter, you know. That I understand. But what difference would it make for a Gentile that is a believer in Jesus to know these things?

RON: Because if you love Yeshua, you want to know who he is. You want to know everything. I got married 25 years ago and I’m still discovering wonderful insights about my wife. How much more Yeshua, the author of the New Covenant, if you view him as a blond haired, blue eyes Gentile from Finland, you’re missing out on some of the most special features of the Jewish Messiah. He came in response to the prophecies of the Jewish prophets, not to start a new religion, but to bring salvation to the world through his blood. He was the Passover lamb, not the Easter meal.

SID: Speaking of the feasts, did Yeshua observe all of these feasts? Did all the Jewish believers observe these feasts?

RON: Absolutely. They were Jews. They, what is again, going back to Acts 2:1, Jacob says to Paul, he says, “Look how many of these tens of thousands of Jews have believed and they are zealous for the Torah.” Now when they celebrated the Passover it had incredible meaning that it didn’t have before. Now they could see Yeshua, the Passover lamb. When they celebrated the Fall feast, the Feast of Tabernacles, they could dream of the day when Yeshua would come back, like it says in Zechariah 14: “His feet will come to the Mount of Olives to fight for Israel and to establish his kingdom on Earth.” Of course, they celebrated the feasts. That was the example of Yeshua. We find Yeshua in John, chapter, 7, going to Jerusalem. Why? To celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles.

SID: So let me ask you this question. If a Gentile Christian loves Jesus with all of their heart and hates the Jewish people, because let’s say they say the Jews killed Jesus, did the Jews kill Jesus?

RON: Yeah. And so did the Gentiles.

SID: Well wait a second. If you have the Jews and Gentiles together, guess who you got? The whole world. We’ll be right back. Don’t go away.