Sid:  Now for those that aren’t familiar with Grace Williams I have interviewed her before but tell me just briefly Grace, about your great, great, great, great, grandfather.

Grace:  Well, Sid he was a circuit rider preacher and he use to actually travel up and down the coast of California and he operated in healing and the fire of God was upon his life.  And there was actually magazine, newspaper articles written about him that his eyes burned with the fire of God.  And his face like just had the glory literal, the tangible glory shining and glowing on his face, they would call him like the man that burned in the pulpit.  And so that is my spiritual heritage you know.

Sid:  Well, he actually prayed that he would have relatives that would carry this mantle.  Tell me about that prayer.

Grace:  Yes, and he prayed that his you know his descendants would know God and he even prayed to be careful of the rearing of your sons and daughters.  And it was pretty amazing because my Mom was really the first in her family, she was kind of the breaker that…

Sid:  Well, you wouldn’t have even been here if she wasn’t because you shouldn’t have even lived.

Grace:  Yes, yes exactly and so she actually found out about him through a cousin or something and oh yeah everybody thought that he was kind of crazy.  And she had always been seeking God but didn’t know anybody in her immediate family that even knew of God and then she found this book and thought oh my gosh he was praying for me.  And so the power of like the generational prayers and blessings and just an amazing heritage that we you know that I am walking in now that I’m in California and we have a church here and I’m able to lead worship and carry really this wave of glory that God is pouring out here.

Sid:  I feel the wave of glory right now.  Just for the, again for those that aren’t familiar with you when you were three you spoke in tongues.  At three I didn’t even know what it meant, at four you played the piano, you reached over towards the piano and you started playing the piano; at twelve you were a worship leader; at six you even got a vision for your life, briefly tell me about it.

Grace:  Yes, yes well I did I saw these music notes and music literally encircling the earth and going around the world like this beautiful almost like a ribbon of these you know if you ever, anybody that reads music or know what music looks like, it was these music notes and this beautiful ribbon of music just encircling the whole earth.  And that was like one of the first, it was the first you know vision I saw and at such a young age and I was just so overwhelmed and thought, this is what the Lord has called me to to sing forth His praise and to just worship Him and fill the earth with His glory.

Sid:  I mean at age six to know what your purpose was, I mean there are people listening to us that are in their sixties and they don’t even know what their purpose is.  Now of all of your songs my producer says that the one that she loves the most is “Beautiful Place” and she gets up in the middle of the night and just worships to that song.  There are people that take your music and literally they get so deep in the Spirit that they have trips to heaven.  Tell me about one.

Grace:  Yes, well we received this one testimony and it was actually a Director of a School of Supernatural Ministry and they listened to my music and soak and just wait on the Lord and use it for their worship time and they have had just many heavenly encounters.  And like you said, the testimony was like they’ve actually taken trips to heaven listening to your music and he was just saying thank you so much, that it’s been such a blessing and really just he was saying thank you for your heart and for your obedience and dedication that it’s really pouring out on this next generation you know.  And so that really blessed my heart because that’s really my heart to see young people walk in their destiny and calling because I have walked in that and so it’s really my heart to just give that impartation to this next generation that they would carry that torch an like you said, walk in their destiny and calling.  And it’s never too late, you know, its never too late so I just want to encourage people that God has an amazing destiny, an amazing calling for each and every person that’s listening and so I just want to release that right now Lord.  That every single person that’s listening to this right now would walk in their destiny and their calling Lord.  That You’ve called each and every person to something wonderful and great Lord, there’s greatness inside of each and every person Lord, and I just pray that they would step into that and walk into that Lord.  And I pray that even as they listen to this music Lord that you would just open up the heaven’s Lord and reveal Lord Your will to each and every person that they would see, that they would see themselves Lord in what you’ve called them to in the Name of Jesus.  Thank you Father, thank you Father.

Sid:  Tell me the story of “Beautiful Place.”

Grace:  Well, beautiful place, one of my most favorite scriptures in Psalm 24:9 and it’s actually the message translation and it says “Worship God if you want the Best.”  Because worship opens doors to all His goodness, and I love that because all His goodness I think, I mean that’s so amazing.  Through worship Sid, through worship we have a powerful opening to all His goodness.  I mean that, that’s as good as it gets for me you know so that’s how powerful worship is.  But this…

Sid:    It’s, it’s almost like Jacobs ladder when you worship.

Grace:  Yes.

Sid:  And the angels come up and down and they bring things to you.

Grace:  Yes.  All his goodness, Amen that’s so, that’s so true so “Beautiful Place” this was just really my heart’s cry and also Psalm 84 talks about it.  “One day, one day spent in Your house, this beautiful place of worship beats thousands elsewhere.”  And I can just attest to that and say, “You know when I’m just, all these songs come out of my personal time of worship and soaking and just prayer unto the Lord and so it’s really like just an overflow of my personal worship experiences with the Lord.  And I always you know pray and I say “God if this is resonating in my heart and my spirit I pray that that would resonate to your people.”  You know “I want that intimacy, I want that secret place anointing” and that’s really what’s on this song.  And I actually had a vision when I was working on this song of this bubble and it was encapsulating me surrounding me with His glory and beauty it was like this iridescent beautiful like huge bubble.  And there’s one part in the song that talks about He’s bringing us, the Lord’s bringing us to this place of intimacy with the Lord and that secret place and that’s where His Devine protection is Sid, His peace, His safety, that real tangible place in the chambers of God’s heart where we can find complete satisfaction and delight.  And I think especially in the times that we are living in right now, and there’s so many people that deal with you know with being anxious or just being unrest and there’s so much you know just turmoil in the world we live in.  And if we can just take time and set aside that time and worship Him and go to that beautiful place.

Sid Roth:  Let’s do that right now Grace, let’s go to that Beautiful Place.”

Grace worship excerpt “Beautiful Place” excerpt:

Sid Roth:  You see what I mean when I say that that’s the oxygen of heaven, worship is the oxygen of heaven.  Do you realize that you’re so dehydrated that you don’t even realize that?  And when you worship God you get totally hydrated from the heaven and doors open and vision comes to you.  People that have stress are being set free, people that have had curses against them, curses are being broken.  People with addictions are being set free; people are going to great intimacy with God.

SID: Hello, Sid Roth here with Jonathan Bernis. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. Rabbi Bernis and I go back, what is it, 28 years?

JONATHAN: Twenty-eight. We’re closing on thirty.

SID: I remember some of those early years, I would go up to Rochester, New York where he had a Messianic Jewish congregation and we used to pray all day in supernatural languages, and we were zooming. But you know what’s happening right now, and I have never seen you, Jonathan, so excited about this new thing, the restoration of Hebrew with the promises of God on healing. And why is Hebrew so important?

JONATHAN: Well Sid, Hebrew is the language of the scriptures. The very nature of God, the promises of God, are all given to us in the Hebrew language. It just stands to reason that to go back to the Hebrew language will give us the most accurate, powerful means of confessing God’s Word. I believe God answers in all languages. It doesn’t matter. But the Hebrew language, there is some kind of a restoration of the Hebrew language going on, and there is an anointing on Hebrew, actually a glow on the Hebrew language, the L’Shana Kodesh, Tongue of the Prophets.

SID: I believe that every letter of Hebrew has a meaning and when you can break it down, it’s sort of like the regular Bible and the amplified Bible. Its Supernatural.  It’s just so much fuller. In fact, what did the ancient rabbis tell us about Hebrew?

JONATHAN: Well the ancient rabbis believed that it was better to pray or to speak in the holy language, L’Shana Kodesh, the Holy Tongue, even if you didn’t understand it than any other language. And I don’t want to get too mystical, Sid. But the ancient rabbis, even the rabbis today teach that the Hebrew has certain harmonics.

SID: Sounds.

JONATHAN: Sounds that actually create, that, when the Lord created the world, the heavens and the earth, He created them by the spoken word. And that there’s power, we already know there’s power in the spoken word. But in the Hebrew language in particular it is considered the holy language. And there’s just tremendous power, I believe, both in confession and when you go back to the original Hebrew. I’m very excited.

SID: I know you are. Actually, you found out how important it is to confess or meditate on God’s Word when you were a rabbi in a congregation. Tell me about one of the members it helped.

JONATHAN: You were actually commenting on it at the beginning of the program. The Lord really dealt with me about bringing true change. I had so much counseling with a small congregation, just repetitive sessions where nothing changing, and the Lord really spoke to me clearly about dedicating weeks aside for fasting and prayer. And you actually used to come…

SID: I looked forward to it.

JONATHAN: …to Rochester and experience these times of fasting and prayer. The problem is we’re either fasting or praying and we don’t couple them together. And I took these times, where I, designated times where I asked people from the congregation to actually take vacation time and we devoted nine hours a day to corporate prayer and worship. And it was out of those times that the power of confessing the Word of God became reality to me. I finally saw it. Finally, that coupled with going to meetings together sponsored by Kenneth Hagan. Kenneth Hagan was a tremendous influence in my life, and the power of confessing the Word of God. And one story I will tell. I had this woman who had been suffering from depression for 20-plus years. She had gone, just like the woman with the issue of blood, she had been to doctors and therapists, and you could see the visible depression all over her. And I told her after counseling ineffectively with her, “I want you to start to confess the Word of God. I want you to take an hour a day Sid Roth, or in the beginning a half hour a day.” And I gave her scriptures: “He who the Son sets free is free indeed.” “Greater is He that is in me than He that is in the world.” Those kinds of scriptures; “We’re more than conquerors through Him who loved us and strengthened us…” And it only took her a couple of weeks. She came back to me. I knew she didn’t have to tell me she had been delivered of depression. As far as I know, she’s been delivered ever since. It was a whole new life for her because she had confessed the Word of God. “Faith cometh by hearing…hearing by the Word of God.” It had finally seeped into her spirit and brought life.

SID: Tell me about the meaning of the word “meditate”.

JONATHAN: Well if you look at the word “meditate” in Hebrew, it’s a difference concept than the Christian idea of meditation. It’s the Hebrew word “hagah”. In Christian meditation we’re reflecting on a scripture. We’re contemplating that scripture, silent contemplation with our mind. But “hagah”, the Hebrew concept, is contemplation with the mouth. Hagah literally means “to talk, to utter, to mutter”. And that’s what God said to Joshua. In Joshua 1:8, Joshua is being prepared to take the children of Israel into the Promised Land, the baton is being handed from Moses, the great leader Moses, to Joshua, and God exhorts him and says, “Joshua, be strong.

Be of good courage. Don’t worry. I will be with you. But if you want to succeed you need to meditate on my word day and night. You need to utter it, keep it always on your lips, hagah. And so he tells Joshua that in order to be successful and prosperous, that’s what it says in the Hebrew, if you do this, if you hagah, if you confess my word, keep it on your lips, you will be prosperous and successful. And I’m wondering how many watching want to be prosperous, want to be more successful. Well the clue is in Joshua 1:8, hagah. The Lord tells Joshua and He’s telling us today, if you want to be prosperous, if you want to be fruitful, if you want to be successful, you need to get the Word of God into your heart. How do you do that? By keeping it on your lips, by speaking it, uttering it, muttering it.

SID ROTH: What Jonathan is teaching is so fantastic, the power of confessing God’s Word, especially His promises. But how about confessing His promises in Hebrew? Jewish people had a problem when they came to the United States of America. Most of them did not speak Hebrew. So the reform movement developed the most simplistic way of people being able to speak the Hebrew language. We’re going to have a demonstration of it when we come back, and you’ll be speaking Hebrew. Don’t go away.

SID: Hello, Sid Roth here with Hank Kunneman. And you know, I was thinking something in the last segment, and I didn’t say it. And during the break, Hank said to me what I was thinking because he picked it up in his spirit; because he was thinking the same thing. And I was talking about “God is speeding up your breakthrough.” And Hank, someone was just healed. Someone’s neck was just healed and someone’s back was just healed. Test it. You’ll see. What did God show you about time being compressed?

HANK: God is suppressing time. And here’s the encouraging thing for you that are watching. What would take a year is not taking a year. It’s taking a day. What took a day is taking an hour. What took an hour is taking a second. And I want to encourage you in this new decade that we are in, in this new millennium, I want to encourage you to reach forward now; and get that determined spirit that says, you know what, it is my hour, it is my season for the breakthrough in my body. If you need healing or maybe your finances, it’s my hour for that breakthrough to begin to come! And it’s those who have a determined spirit that says, you know what, it’s my now! It’s like that woman with the issue of blood the Scripture talks about, that pressed into the crowd and grabbed a hold of what she knew was her promise. And when she did, her breakthrough came and her issues went away. That’s the kind of determination you will have.

SID: And you cannot be like Lot’s wife. It’s a new season in your life. Do not look back to the old. It’s time for the new. And speaking of the new, Hank, God is showing you what’s going on with youth in particular. Explain.

HANK: Well 2006, the Lord gave an interesting prophesy. And I was even on this show before telling you about a regime change that would come in Iran. And I thought, God, how are you going to do this? The prophecy said, in 2006, He said, watch me shake Egypt first. And He said, “And the youth shall arise with the dissatisfaction that shall topple government’s dictators and change a nation in a day.”

SID: Okay. But what about some…a country like China? We saw what happened at Tiananmen Square. What did God show you? – Its Supernatural!

HANK: I had something happen just about two weeks ago in my church at Sunday night service. The worship team was praising, and there’s such an open Heaven in my church anyway. All of a sudden, I felt this literal wind blow in through the service. It about knocked me over on my side. The ushers almost had to grab me because of the force of this wind. The Lord said this. He said, “Discern this wind.” I said, “What is this?” He said, “It’s the wind of change over the nations.” And He talked about five nations. He didn’t necessarily name all of the nations that were going to begin to have regime changes. And He said, “One such place, watch China; Tiananmen Square.”

SID: He said Tiananmen Square?

HANK: Yes, yes he did. And so I think we need to really pray. Because what God wants is sheep nations – nations that go the way of the Messiah, not goat nations, where you get the wrong leader in and they turn away from the principles of God. Or turn away from God, and begin to put the people in bondage. So there’s a window now as these nations are toppling and these leaders are toppling. We’ve got to pray for the right people to sit into those seats of authority.

SID: What is being spoken about is Matthew 25. And I was telling Hank that Matthew 25:40…see in that chapter, it talks about the virgins, the smart ones and the stupid ones. It also talks about dividing the nations. There will be goat nations and sheep nations in the last days. The issue is determined at Matthew 25:40, in which Jesus says, “As you have done unto the least of these my brethren,” and in the Greek, the word “brethren” means “from the womb”. Who were his brethren from the womb? The Jewish people. So what will hinge on a nation being a goat nation or sheep nation will be what they do to the physical Jew. What did God tell you about Israel, and in particular, Jewish people?

HANK: I’m telling you, I had a dream just recently where and it was very simple. I saw the homes in Israel and they had the lights off. All of a sudden, light started springing forth in houses all over Israel. And the Spirit of the Lord said to me, “Hank, look at this.” He said, “This is an awakening that is coming for my people, Israel.” And He even said back in 2006, with the prophecy about Egypt and Iran, and these other nations, He said, “When you see this with Egypt, know that it marks a season where I’m going to bring a separation.” And there has been natural separation to prove a point. There’s a spiritual separation that God is going to release favor over Israel. New discoveries are about to come in Israel. Oil is going to be discovered in Israel. And you know why? The Lord said it to me this way. He said, “Where did the first outpouring of the spiritual oil come?” Israel. He said it’s going to happen once again.

SID: In other words, what He started with, He’s going to end with.

HANK: Right. Some things go full circle. And there’s going to be natural gas and oil. God is going to make Israel self-sufficient. And what we need to do is pray because some of the finest things are about to be brought to the surface. As the Holy One is unveiling, not only the Messiah, but He’s unveiling these natural resources to bring His people into such incredible blessing. There’s also something that I see happening, too, Sid. There is a humoring that God is going to bring over Israel. The enemies of Israel are conspiring in secret. Sid Roth taught me that  God is listening. He’s listening. God hears everything. He’s listening to you. If you live in Israel or you love Israel, listen to me, God said, “I’m going to show my protective power over Israel.” In fact, you know how He’s going to do it? He said, “Let me humor them. I’m going to use the elements again.” Remember how God did it back in the day of the Exodus?

SID: Of course.

HANK: He used the wind. He used the elements. And God said, “Once again, I am going to use the elements to protect Israel and to speak forth through those elements to show them they are my apple of my eye.” And I think He’s going to do this where, let’s say somebody rises up to attack them and God uses the wind to frustrate their purpose or something.

SID: But this has happened many times in Israel’s wars.

HANK: It’s going to happen again. Watch this, though.

SID: But this is going to happen. I think God is going to display His power. Remember, He did this to show Pharaoh and his people of His favor on Israel.

HANK: That’s right.

SID: He’s going to do it one more time.

HANK: That’s the season they’re coming into. And that’s what’s going to bring this awakening. Watch the youth of Israel as they begin to march in the streets, and they are going to start declaring the name of Yeshua. Not only that, but I’m talking about music now. Whenever God does something in the earth, there’s always a sound. In every generation, the ’60s, ’70s, ’80s, ’90s, new millennium, to mark a new generation, listen to the sound. Listen to the music. It changes to mark the new moves coming or the new generation. Watch the sounds that start coming out of Israel. You will hear a great sound of worship in music again, and how it’s going to touch even the secular.

SID: Give me just one clue, if you will, of how I can have…and how you can have your breakthrough.

HANK: The key for breakthrough, and I want to encourage you that are watching, is the key for breakthrough is, again, a determined spirit that refuses to take no for an answer.

SID: And because of time, what do you see as a breakthrough in the White House? What is God showing you?

HANK: One of the things that’s coming, and I want to encourage you, look to the Statue of Liberty. It’s a mystery over the nation. A woman is going to rise up in this land. The season of it is coming. We’re not too far away from it, but we will have a woman in the White House. But also, listen to this, this is powerful. A friend of Israel is being hand-selected of God to once again come and bring such a beautiful relationship and peace. We’re going to have an understanding of the land and an understanding of the covenant that God made with them, and they’re going to be a friend of Israel.

SID: And what about women in the White House, in the presidency? What did God show you?

HANK: It’s coming. In fact, one of the things the Lord said in one of the last elections we had, He said, “Watch. There will be one removed as the Speaker of the House, and when you see the one removed as the Speaker of the House,” He said, “I’m going to raise up other women.” And He said, “You’re coming into the season where a woman will reign in the land as president.” And of course, people always to guess who that is. I’d like it if God just chooses and put His…and appoints it.

SID: Okay, 30 seconds. I want you to pray for a breakthrough for all those watching.

HANK: I would love it. In the name of Jesus of Nazareth, as I stretch my hands into that camera, in to that lens, into that city, into that nation, into the very place in your living room or wherever you’re at, I decree now, let the heavens be open over your life. Let angels now come at the sound of my voice and cause you to come into your breakthrough. I command healing in your body. I command the pressure that is upon you in the financial realm to be open now and let a freedom begin to flow in your financial life, your business. And I even declare the depression that has come against you, the mind-altering things. I declare now peace into your mind…

SID: If God is for you, – Its Supernatural!

HANK: …in Jesus name.

SID ROTH: …who can be against? If God is for you, He is.