DAVID: “How do I get back in?” I said, “It’s really simple. Just lay down – you lie on your bed and just start to remember that time you were in Heaven. Just imagine it, remember it, what it was like.” And your mind is a gateway, you know. your – your words are a gateway, but your thoughts are too; “As a man, thinks, so is he.” And as you start to think and remember, many times that gate will be [SNAPS FINGERS] instantly wide open immediately, and you ‘re – and before you know it you ‘re back in! Just like if you talk about the glory, suddenly the glory shows up. You start thinking about and remembering what happened; many times it opens it right up, just by doing that.

SID: Now let me ask you a question. Have you  obviously I’ve been to your meetings, and you ‘ve found that many people get healed of many unusual things at your meetings.

DAVID: Um hm.

SID:  but from a distance, can someone be healed? Like we’re – we’re in –

DAVID: Sure.

SID: t- in – internet now with this.  can – can someone be healed just watching us right now?

DAVID: Oh yeah! They can be healed; even raised from the dead! We’ve seen both from a distance! Um, –

SID: G-give me an example of one person.  in fact, the one that comes to mind that we were talking about earlier is where you knew someone’s name –

DAVID: Yeah.

SID: when you were speaking. Tell me about that.

DAVID: Yeah. So I was moving in the prophetic, and the word of knowledge, and I said, “There’s someone”, I forgot the name now, but I was in Hammond, Louisiana. I gave the first and last name of a man. It’s wonderful when you get accurate like that. Only problem is [VIDEO BEGINS] nobody lifted their hand that was for them.

SID: Hm.

DAVID: So I go, “Is anyone here by that name?”; nobody raised their hand! And I said “oh, great”. And finally a woman comes up and says, “Well that’s my husband’s name, but he’s not here.” She didn’t tell me what was wrong. She stood up, raised her hand. I said, “Well, we’ll pray for you , for him. We’ll -” “you ‘ll stand in proxy for him.” And I just said, “Come back”, three times. She fell out in the Spirit. The next day, she came to the meeting [VIDEO ENDS] and told me, “you didn’t know this, but my husband was in a coma for 4 days.”

SID: And you called his name out.

DAVID: Called his name, and I said, “Come back.”

SID: Hm!

DAVID: But in my natural, I thought, “Oh maybe he left her”, or something, and –

SID: Um hm.

DAVID: no; he was [VIDEO BEGINS] gone. Like, his, “Come back.ö he was in a coma! And the hour that I called his name and she fell out! in the Spirit, he came back too.

SID:  and, –

SID: like, in a little while, if we pray what do you believe is going to happen to people that are just watching this? [VIDEO ENDS]

DAVID: Well I believe the presence of God is already here; it’s in their homes. And if they’ll believe when we begin to pray, the moment we pray, things will begin to happen. They can believe if I give a word of knowledge. Even if I don’t give them a specific word, while they’re listening, they can just begin to get in the Spirit and start to declare their miracle, and they’ll also see miracles.

SID: You know, a lot of people miss this, because let’s say David or myself function in the word of knowledge, which we do; we may not say the condition that you ‘re believing God for, so well don’t miss what David just said. He said whether he says it or I say it or NOT, it’s yours, in the glory. Now, tell me you ‘ve been teaching on these subjects. Tell me about it’s actually [VIDEO BEGINS] the “Aligning With Heaven” package. It’s the book and the 3 CDs.

DAVID: Um hm.

SID: when you teach on this, [VIDEO ENDS]

SID: when you – people read the book, tell me the feedback you get. What’s going to happen to someone that goes through this “Aligning With Heaven” package?

DAVID: People tell me they wish they had this information and revelation 20 years; their whole life would have been different. They’re SO thankful, because they’re seeing prayers that they’d never seen answered in 20-, 30-years get answered within hours, days and weeks. There’s realizing there’s an acceleration. “My people perish for lack of knowledge”, the Bible says. Because we don’t KNOW that we have the right to GO that way TO God, we don’t get the results; so it’s a HUGE revolutionary transformation over people.

SID: tell me – tell me a few of the more popular teachings they get from the CDs and they get from this book.

DAVID: There’s another teaching about how to activate your DNA into God’s DNA, because the blood of Jesus is very powerful – the blood of Yeshua. And in your bladder – your DNA – there’s memory; you – there’s memory of your sins, –

SID: I know this; yes.

DAVID: and that – your past sins; but there’s also memory of blessings down your family line. And a lot of us only break the curses on our family line, but we don’t liberate the blessings off our family line. Even if they weren’t saved, you can ask the Lord to –

SID: You know, I’ve never HEARD of that before. How did you ?

DAVID: Well the Lord [CHUCKLES] began –

SID: How did you even know about that?

DAVID: the Lord began to show me stuff, and I said, “Well let me test this out!”, and I started testing it on myself. And on my Jewish side I had relatives that were scientists, and they knew 12 languages, and they were in business, and government; and I started asking God –

SID: I’ll take a little of YOUR DNA! [LAUGHS]

DAVID: I asked – [CHUCKLES] – I asked – I want some of yours!

SID: [LAUGHS]

BILL:  But Paul and Jude and Jesus said that people would come and they’d fall away, fall away. And by 500 A.D. the Church had gone into complete fallen away. And all the truths of the New Testament had been done away with or formalized into a religious form or belief but there wasn’t any experience of it and so they taught the words but not the experience. A form of godliness but no life and power in them.  Well that was a thousand years that was all lost. But in 1700 with Martin Luther God started the restoration of the Church. That’s called the Second Reformation. So just to give you a nutshell view of it. The 1500’s was the Protestant Movement. Mainly it was justification by faith and breaking away from the old Dark Age Catholic Church that had become to be established. And justification by faith and all of that goes with it. I mean hours on that. Then in 1600 you had the Anabaptist Movement of water baptism by immersion. That was added back into the Church. Then in the 1700’s you had John Wesley and the whole holiness movement of sanctification, living a holy, victorious life. Then the 1800’s you had the divine healing movement with A.B Simpson, a Presbyterian who got revelation of healings and the atonement and started teaching you can be healed, delivered in your body as well as saved in your soul and spirit.     

KYNAN:  Hmm.

BILL:  Then in 1900 we had the Pentecostal Movement where for the first time since the early days God restored back the gift of the Holy Spirit with speaking in tongues. 

KYNAN:  Mmm.

BILL:  And that, and then that’s the reason in my book that I talk about “Seventy Reasons for Speaking in Tongues” and   then in the latter part talks to people who say why don’t all Churches teach this?

KYNAN:  Yeah. Yes, yes.

BILL:  And I say well in the Protestant Movement you had the Episcopalian, Presbyterian, and Lutherans, churches formed from them. In the Evangelical Movement of 1600 are your Baptist Churches and Evangelical Churches sprung up from them. In the Holiness Movement you had your Nazarene, Methodist, all the holiness churches, Church of God, all those holiness churches sprung up. But that wasn’t a part of the revelation. Then 1800 you had the Christian and Missionary Alliance sprung up from A.B. Simpson’s teaching but they didn’t have the revelation on speaking in tongues. When in 1900 when the Pentecostal Movement came there was a release of the restoration of the Holy Spirit’s gift of your own spirit language and then all the churches from thereon that have been established in the Pentecostal Movement, then the Restoration Movement, the Charismatic Renewal and the Faith Movement, Prophetic and Apostolic, all of those teach the speaking in tongues through the spirit in them. And that’s the reason if you’re a Baptist, Methodist or Evangelical you weren’t taught that the Holy Spirit gift is for us today cause it was not restored yet back into the Church. 

KYNAN:  Now Dr. Hamon, let me ask you something. What is the connection between this revelation of the Holy Spirit and speaking in tongues and the Church living victorious today? How important is that for believers to understand?

BILL:  Well in my “Seventy Reasons for Speaking in Tongues” book I explain that there are so many things it does for you. One of the best things to illustrate it is you got your own building and a hydroelectric power plant! And it’s a Holy Ghost power plant!  

KYNAN:  I love that!

BILL:  And what it is is the Bible says be filled with the Spirit! Well it was like they build a dam. I went through the Hoover Dam out there. They build a dam to make a reservoir and a river lifts up, fills it up. Then they have overflow things where if it gets too full it can overflow. But down in the lower part of the dam they have these great big water gates and they have a great big gate that opens up and there’s a turbine in there. And that turbine, zzzzz, you know it’s like a big ol’ airplane blades you know in their engine and curved blades and then when that water hits that it turns it real fast and it turns a great big dynamo and this big dynamo is like Ezekiel says a wheel in the middle of a wheel starts turning and I looked in the dam and they had about twenty of them big as this building, you know, and they started “mmmm” and they produce electricity. Now we have the water gate is our mouth.

KYNAN:  Come on!

BILL:  You got to open your mouth!

KYNAN:  That’s good.

BILL:  And then you have a turbine called a tongue.

KYNAN:  (LAUGHS)

BILL:  And when Jesus said out of your innermost being shall flow rivers of living water and when that river comes up it flows through your turbines. It turns a dynamo of your spirit when the Holy Spirit are one and it generates the love of God, the power of God, the gifts of the Spirit, everything that heaven has to offer can be generated by praying in tongues!

KYNAN:  Oh that’s powerful!

BILL:  It’s the generator, it’s the activator!

KYNAN:  So if I’m hearing you correctly every single believer has access to this Holy Spirit power that you’re talking about.

BILL:  YES!

KYNAN:  And as we begin to place a demand on this dynamo on the inside of us…

BILL:  Right!

KYNAN:  …which is the Holy Spirit, we’re going to see that power flow through us. So this is what Jesus meant when He said “out of your belly shall flow rivers of living water.”  

JAMIE: What I’m about to tell you is so real to me. Remembrance is supernatural! The ability to remember is supernatural! If I asked you to remember your last miracle moment could you do it? I mean many of us could, some of us would struggle. I think it might have been yesterday, 5 weeks ago, 2 days ago – I – it was something – oh yes, it was that moment. He says why do you not remember! Watch this. I was in my – I was sleeping one night. I had a dream. This is real. I had a dream and this showed me the power of remembrance. I was in a dream and I was doing something. However, when I woke up I couldn’t remember. And have you ever been in a moment where you wake up from a dream it’s so real, so tangible and all of a sudden it starts to dissipate from you?

AUDIENCE: Yes.

JAMIE: I was in one of those moments. My son at the time was thinking he was a dinosaur every single morning. So he’d wake up, he’d roll out of bed and try to find mommy and daddy. He’s come into the room and he’d go “Rr Rr Rr” trying to find mommy and daddy. Now if you’ve ever had a dream that’s from God and you have a loud noise it can shake you out of remembrance. And I knew my son’s coming close. He’s not the enemy but his voice is actually causing my memory to fail. I can’t remember. All of a sudden this thing is dissipating from me. What happened? What happened? What was the dream? What was the dream? What was the dream? My son’s getting closer and closer. Arrrhg. Arrrgh. And I go no, please remember, please remember. What was the dream! And I get up. I stand up because I’m like, ah, ah. All right. I forgot the dream. I’m just going to let it be. And I stood up to receive my son, happy, good morning and when I did, as my son is turning around the corner saying “Hi Dad!” I see an angel of God sitting in-between my son and me in the natural! He’s dressed like a soldier and he’s got a smile from ear to ear. He’s looking at me and he’s like –

AUDIENCE: [LAUGHTER]

JAMIE: And then in that moment he disappears. When I saw him as he smiled at me I go “ah!” I remember. I was in the dream with him. And we were walking around and he was showing me how to operate in the supernatural! He was giving me clues and tips and techniques even of what it looks like to walk in the supernatural! That memory would have been lost but memory is supernatural! So here’s what Jesus says: How is it you don’t remember? And they say, well, he goes when I broke the 5 loaves for the 5,000 how many baskets full of fragments did you take up? They said “12.” And when I broke the 7 for the 4,000 how many large baskets full of fragments did you take up? They said “7.” He says how is it you do not understand? Here’s what’s amazing to me. The disciples didn’t see the miracle while it was happening! They didn’t even see the multiplication of the loaves and fish! They’re just doing it. They’re caught up in the moment. But do they stop to see the sign? If you have something supernatural happen to you, stop and see the sign! The sign is pointing to Jesus. The sign is pointing to God’s glory! But stop and see the sign! What is really taking place here? And I find we often move past the sign so fast because we’re afraid we’re going to, we’re going to take away from our love for Jesus. But here’s what I find we end up doing. We take from God’s glory! We need to glorify Him for this moment! He says why is it you don’t remember? You still don’t get it! God wants you to have supernatural and He wants you to recognize these moments all around you! But here’s what I want to propose to you. This is going to help you. First Corinthians 15, it tells us this: It says that first the natural and then the spiritual. The spiritual does not come first, however, the natural comes first and then the spiritual. If I could rephrase it like what I would say: The natural and then the supernatural. The natural first and then the supernatural comes second. However, we want to see things in the spirit and manifest them in the natural. God actually is manifesting them in the natural to us so that we can see what is going on in the spirit.

AUDIENCE: Yes.

JAMIE: Let me give you an example. My daughter. We were teaching her about hearing the voice of God and she was going through a moment where she was not knowing whether she was to choose one thing or the other. And we said why don’t you go outside and process this? Why don’t you pray and process this? And we said God’s going to speak to you. So we see her outside on a bench. She’s sitting there. We said “go.” First, it was a little struggle, a little fight. She wasn’t like “yay! I get to go pray.” But she was like “okay! Fine!” And she sits down and she gets this “aha” moment like God is speaking to her. She stands up and we see her through the window and she’s like I know what I’m supposed to do! I know what God’s saying! I know what I’m supposed to do! And in that moment there was this swirl of leaves that started swirling in a swirly pattern all around her and it kept going and going and going for minutes! She looks, she’s going “what is this?” I said “honey, it’s an angel of God! He’s speaking to you and it’s a sign to you that he’s there, he’s literally there in the winds of God speaking to you right now!” She stood back. She goes “Ah! Ah! Ah! God is speaking to me!” Now most of us who have been trained well that’s when the coolness hits the warmth and there’s a cycle and an effect and science tells us. However, God wants us to see what’s hidden in plain sight!

AUDIENCE: Oooh!

LARRY: Yeah. Let me ask you a question because some people might read that and obviously read passages in the Old Testament, even in the New Testament, where it says are all prophets? And obviously not all are prophets in terms of office.

JAMIE: Right.

LARRY: Not all are prophets in terms of an – not all are “see-ers” in terms of being a formal office of a “see-er,” but let me ask you this question. Do you believe all believers, all believers who have the Holy Spirit living inside of them can see into the spirit realm?

JAMIE: Absolutely. I know the Holy Spirit reveals to us the deep things of God because He’s searching the heart and mind of God to know what it is that He wants to reveal to us. So we are called to see not based on a gift or based on a function but out of relationship! See what it is that the Father is showing us.

LARRY: Yeah, yeah.

JAMIE: You know Jesus Himself He says the Son can do nothing of Himself but what He sees the Father doing. And He’s not really talking about the Apostle can do nothing of himself.

LARRY: That’s true.

JAMIE: The prophet can do nothing of himself. He’s talking about the Son can do nothing of Himself and He’s speaking in third person in John 5:19 and 20. But He’s trying to relay a message. This relationship, this dynamic and the results of this relationship happen because the Son sees what the Father is doing.

LARRY: Yeah. Are there practical things because I want to get into this in our next segment. Are there practical things you think a believer can do, a Christian can do that actually help activate this in their lives?

JAMIE: Absolutely! 100%. And I feel if we can de-mystify this for people, you know really make it simple, make it super user-friendly I think we’re going to get around the kind of scary, eerie type stuff and then really get into the nuts and bolts and understand what it is the Father is trying to give us.

LARRY: Yeah, cause I think that you’re totally right. I think perhaps that’s where there is confusion and concern about it only because there’s a lack of information. There’s a lack of knowledge and you’re talking about making it user-friendly and really super-relatable to people.

JAMIE: Absolutely!

LARRY: Yeah.

JAMIE: It’s all out of relationship you know and so we’re called to worship God with our heart, soul, mind and strength and when that word “strength” in relationship to our new believer understanding is that we can use our body to worship God. I can glory God in my body!

LARRY: Yeah. Yeah.

JAMIE: So I can glorify God with my eyes. I can glorify God with my ears. You know with my mouth, with my nose. And I find, and I’ll talk about this a little bit if you’d like.

LARRY: Yeah!

JAMIE: But really understanding that our bodies are an antenna for the Holy Spirit!

LARRY: Wow! Wow!

JAMIE: We’re wired to see what it is that He’s doing.

LARRY: Yeah.

JAMIE: We are naturally supernaturally wired to hear what it is that He’s speaking, to smell Him what it is that He’s up to, and some of these different ways that we see are not always with our eyes which is super interesting. And so if I could just replace the word “see-er” with “perceiver” maybe that would help people because often we see but are we always seeing with our eyes?

LARRY: Yes. Yeah. You know what? In the next segment what I want to talk about as you’re talking about this is I feel like the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit wants people to understand the languages of God and God’s first language is not Hebrew. God’s first language is not Greek, it’s not English. I believe the language of God is really the language of the Holy Spirit. And there are so many different languages that God wants His people to tap into. Let me let you know Acts chapter 2, the fruit of the outpouring of the Holy Spirit includes dreams and visions. We’ve gotten prophecy, we’ve gotten tongues, there’s certain aspects of the outpouring that we’re walking in but I believe that the Lord wants to release a fresh hunger that we’d operate in the realm of dreams and visions in that revelatory world that God is calling us into. So in the next segment I’m going to have Jamie talk about that a little bit. Creating your body as an antenna for the Holy Spirit and how God actually wants to speak to you very uniquely and how you can learn His different languages! Stay there! Don’t go away!

[MUSIC]

CLEDDIE: You know I believe that every one of us, are candidates for something fresh and new from God! Just about the time you’ve got Him figured out He has a way of changing! How many of you have noticed that?

AUDIENCE: Amen.

CLEDDIE: And so you there’s an interesting thing that happens when we begin to cry out to God! I have a friend that’s from India. He’s Ratnam Paul. He was kicked out on the streets when he was a child. God called him to preach. Do you know how he built his church? He didn’t say God give me buildings. He’s had four buildings and different people have burned them down. The Buddhists have burned him down. Other religions have burned them down. And he has about 200,000 people that come together every Christmas for a prayer meeting but he never prayed God give me a building. You know what he prayed? He said God give me people! God give me people! God give me people! What would happen in America if all of a sudden the pastors would begin to pray God give me people! Give me people! That’s what Jesus wants! He needs people! Those that are watching us around the world you can pray that way. I have a friend that is over the lottery in South Africa. It’s a 9 billion dollar lottery. I just came back from South Africa just a few months ago and he’s building a 36,000 seat facility.

AUDIENCE: Mm!

CLEDDIE: He was in prison with Mandela for eight years. He was beaten every day. He went to a revival, a Reinhard Bonnke revival and he got saved! I’m telling you the Gospel can reach anybody! The Gospel can reach those that are watching around the world! The Gospel is the Good News and it can reach your sons and your daughters and your families, glory to God! I thank God for the power of the Gospel! I am not ashamed of the gospel of Jesus Christ for it is the power of God unto salvation to all who believe!

AUDIENCE: Yes! Woo! [CLAPPING]

CLEDDIE: You see there are people that have fought against things that you and I don’t even know anything about and so I think some people won’t have a real move of God in their life because they have a track record of preferring the past! Do you prefer the past? Are you setting here preferring, you got to really be honest with yourself as in what our face answers face so the heart of man to men I’m preaching to your heart? Do you prefer the past? You prefer the past if you say well we’ve never done it that way before. That’s the people that prefer the past. And so we come to an hour like this and we know that God has to do something. He has to do something! He has to do something but it starts in the heart of His people that begin to cry out and begin to long for the glory of God to break through! You see if you prefer the past your past is your future! I don’t look to the past for preference. Have I seen things in the past? Oh, I could tell you things that I’ve seen in the past as I’ve walked with Him. As my family walked with Him. The miracle that my daughter was born with infantile glaucoma. She became you know Mrs. America at one time in her life. There are so many people that need to understand that we can have great things that happen in our past but we can’t camp there! We can’t stay there! We’ve got to go on. He said Call upon Me and I’ll answer you and show you great and mighty things that you know nothing about! Hallelujah! I’m getting blessed right now!

AUDIENCE: [CLAPPING] Glory to God!

CLEDDIE: I was in Vacaville California preaching and I was out there with Dave and I was preaching out there and I came in the church one night and Sid, it was a crazy thing. Ever have God give you crazy things? I come into the church one night to preach and we’d been having a move of God. There’d be three or four hundred people there before we even came in the door. They’d all be on their faces crying out to God for revival. Have you ever done that? Have you ever gone to church early? Have you ever become a person that’s a vanguard? Somebody that’s going to lead the way? Like a lead duck? You say hey! I’m going to start a move of God! I’m going to start a rebellion against the spirit of lustfulness and slothfulness! I’m going to start the rebellion of one! And I’m going to believe God to help others to join me in the mutiny against the doldrums that we live in this time! How many of you would like to do that? I challenge you to do it! Amen! I challenge you to be the army of one that begins to cry out to God like you’ve never cried out to God before! I was sitting in the hotel room and I begin to think well these people are going up you know and they’re gambling at Lake Tahoe. It’s down in the valley. They’re gambling at Lake Tahoe. That’s what’s ran through my mind. And then all of a sudden I got this little thing came into my mind. Not me! I’m pushing my chips to the middle of the table. And I walked into the church and I was sitting on the first row waiting for all the worship to stop and I started thinking [singing] I’m pushing my chips to the middle of the table.

AUDIENCE: [LAUGHTER]

CLEDDIE: [still singing] Pushing my chips to the middle of the table. All my chips to the middle of the table cause I’m betting on God!

AUDIENCE: [LAUGHTER]

CLEDDIE: Look, you’re not going to win the hand till you push it all in! You go all in! Come on: all in!

AUDIENCE: All in!

BECKY: You just have that feeling every time you eat. It just feels sick inside of you. Right now, you receive your deliverance. Lay your hand on yourself. In Jesus’ name, you, be released, from this curse. Because it is a curse. Someone else is having a problem, what is that called? When it’s – yes the carpel tunnel, thank you. Someone is having a problem with that, and it’s in their left hand. Or their left wrist area. Yeah, in Jesus’ Name, you just release the healing power. You just say, “I receive it. I receive my healing in Jesus’ name.” Start moving your wrist, and you allow it to move. Pain-free, and be healed. The numbness, be gone in Jesus’ mighty name. Amen? Thank you for being here. Thank you for all of you that have tuned in. And we just say God, bless you as you are healed in Jesus’ name. Amen?

AUDIENCE: [clapping]

SID: You know, I’m a professional interviewer. I was watching you, and I’m a little disappointed. When conditions were mentioned, if you had. If I had a back pain, and praise God, I don’t have a back pain. But if I had, and that word was mentioned. I’d stand up and bend over. So, I believe the word is still in the atmosphere. If you have pain in your body anywhere, stand up, and walk into your healing. Don’t keep your pain, or whatever you want.

AUDIENCE: [clapping and standing up]

SID: Come on now. Bend your knee. How about that knee? Bend your knee. If you had a knee problem. Don’t do it if you didn’t have one. [laughs] come on, now faith. That is what the Bible says. Faith without corresponding action is dead. Do you want dead faith? Without faith, you can ‘t please God. So why would you want it dead, when it could be alive right now. Come on, test yourself. Test your fingers. Those that had a problem with their fingers. Okay, now, if your condition was not called, did Jesus pay the price if their condition wasn’t called?

BECKY: Absolutely.

AUDIENCE: [clapping]

SID: I would stand up for my condition, and get it. Right now. Stand up and get it right now, whatever it is. Whatever it is. Whatever it is. I mean, come on, be aggressive like you really believe.

AUDIENCE: [responding]

SID: Either that or don’t believe.

AUDIENCE: [responding and smiling]

SID: Okay, now that a few of you are standing up, I want everyone to stand up. If you had a manifestation of a healing today, raise your hand high, so that I can see it. Real high. Woah. Now those in the front row, turn around. Keep those hands up. Look at all those hands. Okay, I’m just letting you know. I’m going to pray an ancient Jewish prayer over you that comes from the Bible. And, more of you are going to get healed when this is prayed over you. except, I’m not going to pray it from the Old Covenant way before Jesus came. I’ll pray the same prayer from after Jesus came; much stronger. It’s already happened. now it’s just a matter of you walking it. The Lord has already blessed you. The Lord has already, He’s already smiled on you. The Lord has already surrounded you with His love and His Faith. The Lord has already given you gifts, good gifts. The Lord has surrounded you with His favor. He’s already given it to you. It’s not, “Lord give it to me.” He’s given You His favor. The Lord has already given you His shalom. His completeness in your Spirit, in your soul, and in your body [music] in the name of the Sar Shalom, the Prince of peace, Yeshua Ha Mashiach Tsidkenu; Jesus the Messiah, our Righteousness.

LARRY: Welcome back to Something More. I’ve got my guest Donna Schambach with us, and today we’re talking about ministering out of the anointing, and ministering out of authority your spiritual authority in CHRIST! Now for the last two segments we’ve talked about anointing; flowing with the anointing, creating an atmosphere of the anointing in our lives, and learning how to recognize the movement of the Spirit of God. But let me ask you a question: What happens when you don’t feel anything? What happens when you don’t’ feel [CHUCKLING]? What happens when you don’t feel the glory? What happens when you actually see no identifiable signs of the movement of God? Does that mean you don’t pray? No; it actually means you step into the situation, and you pray with boldness and authority, because the Lord has said it to you. He said it to His 70 that He sent out to do the works of ministry, and He’s saying it to you today: Behold, I give you authority over all the power of the enemy. When you don’t feel anything, and you don’t feel the anointing, guess what? You still have authority in Christ to do something about that situation. Donna, you have a funny story about recognizing, learning, activating your spiritual authority. Can you share that with us?

DONNA: Yeah. It took me a long time, Larry, before I’d even share it because it was so embarrassing.

LARRY: CHUCKLES

DONNA: to me. But I kind of describe it this way: I had to learn the voice of the anointing wasn’t in my head, wasn’t in my natural ears, but it came out of the place where I was birthed in the Holy Spirit.

LARRY: Yes.

DONNA: Out of your belly will flow rivers of living water. Well when I first started out in ministry, it was in the Bronx, New York, and I was starting a Christian school! And I was content being a teacher, but the Pastor introduced me to everybody as Brother Schambach’s daughter. So I guess people made the assumption that I was, you know, flowing at his level.

LARRY: Yeah.

DONNA: at that time, and I hadn’t even been called to the ministry yet!

LARRY: Wow.

DONNA: So  in that Italian-American  community, somebody invited me over for a spaghetti dinner, and of course I didn’t turn them down; but what I didn’t know is they had a hidden agenda. And my friend said to me, when I got to the house she says, Oh before we eat, there’s a lady sitting on my sofa. Would you cast the devil out of her? LAUGHS

LARRY: Wow.

DONNA: Can you imagine a pre-dinner.

LARRY: Yeah; yeah. 

DONNA: casting out of the devil?

LARRY: Yeah CHUCKLES.

DONNA: So I went into the living room, and there was this woman. She was had to be 7-foot tall, had to be almost 350 pounds, solid as a rock. NOT smiling, darkness all over her face.

LARRY: Wow.

DONNA: Didn’t utter a word. And, you know, because a Schambach doesn’t normally back down [CHUCKLING] from a challenge.

LARRY: Yeah; yeah, yeah.

DONNA: I just went after it the way I thought my dad would, you know! And so I squared [CHUCKLING] my shoulders, and In the NAAAME of JESUS, I got that kind of preacher voice.

LARRY: Yeah, yeah.

DONNA: and you know then I’d start slapping her on the back.

LARRY: CHUCKLES

DONNA: and nothing happened! 

LARRY: Yeah, yeah.

DONNA: You know, nothing moved, not even a blink! And so I dug in a little deeper.

LARRY: [CHUCKLING] Yeah.

DONNA: and I said, I TAKE AUTHORITY, and I must have taken authority over every demon.

LARRY: Yeah; [CHUCKLING] yeah. 

DONNA: I could name: LAUGHING spirits of confusion.

LARRY: LAUGHING Yeah.

DONNA: lying, you know, witchcraft, whatever!

LARRY: Yeah.

DONNA: Nobody budged. And then I thought, Well I’m going to have to really get violent here.

LARRY: Yeah.

DONNA: and so I took her by her face.

LARRY: Oh my.

DONNA: I tried to squeeze the devil out of her!

LARRY: Don’t do this at home!

DONNA: Do not try this [CHUCKLING] at home.

LARRY: LAUGHS

DONNA: you know. And I left that room defeated.

LARRY: Wow.

DONNA: Larry, because I did every trick in the book to cast that devil out.

LARRY: Yeah.

Audience: Peter.

SID: Who does the talking? We do.  And supernatural languages. You get it? Peter walked. Here’s what happened. Peter did his part, and God did His part. Your part, is to speak, from your Spirit. I don’t know what to say. So far, you’re perfect. It’s called unknown tongues.

Audience: (laughs)

SID: Perfect. A-plus. But what if it’s not from God? Well what if it is from God? My Bible says if a child asks for bread, his father is not going to give him a stone. How much more will He give the Holy Spirit to those who ask in the name of Jesus? Get it straight. You’re either a believer or you’re not a believer. So, I want everyone,  that had either has never prayed in supernatural languages, that’s you at home. Or has, but didn’t realize what they were missing, to stand up. And the others, I’ll pray for your salvation. Come on, stand up. [laughs] Come on. Come on or I’ll embarrass you on international TV. Give me a break. Okay. Now, I want you to say this prayer and mean it with your heart. you at home, you think I won’t embarrass you on international TV? God knows your name. [laughs] Okay, pray out loud and mean it to the best of your ability. you at home too; Dear God

Audience: Dear God

SID: I’m a sinner

Audience: I’m a sinner

SID: against you

Audience: against you

SID: and you alone

Audience: and you alone

SID: have I sinned

Audience: have I sinned

SID: And I’m so sorry

Audience: And I’m so sorry

SID: I believe

Audience: I believe

SID: That Jesus died in my place

Audience: That Jesus died in my place

SID: and by His blood

Audience: and by His blood

SID: you remember my sins no more

Audience: you remember my sins no more

SID: and now that I’m clean

Audience: and now that I’m clean

SID: I ask Jesus

Audience: I ask Jesus

SID: to be my lord

Audience: to be my lord

SID: Lord Jesus

Audience: Lord Jesus

SID: come and live inside of me

Audience: come and live inside of me

SID: and in Jesus Name

Audience: and in Jesus Name

SID: I ask you to fill me

Audience: I ask you to fill me

SID: from the top of my head

Audience: from the top of my head

SID: to the bottom of my toes

Audience: to the bottom of my toes

[music]

SID: with your Holy Spirit

Audience: with your Holy Spirit

SID: and with your power

Audience: and with your power

SID: amen

Audience: amen

JULIE: (plays piano) [singing spontaneously]

SID: [music] I wonder if there are some people here that want to share a testimony, something, not something you saw yesterday, or even this afternoon, or something that happened to you yesterday. Or even, this afternoon. I’m wondering if there are any of you that would like to share something that happened to you tonight. Either, a vision. You saw something, or you did something you haven’t done before. Raise your hand, if you’d like to share and come forward, please. Just come on forward if your hand’s up. Come on. What’s going on with you?

Lady: When she started singing ├▒ Well, I have had a pain in my chest about 3 or 4 days, and it was real bad. And I just kept praying and praying, but it would never go away. I prayed this prayer too. [laughs] but I said, I listened to this Mexican guy that you had on there.

SID: mm um

Lady 1: and he was saying walking in the Spirit. And I asked God, ‘How can I go to Florida? I can’t go to Florida.’ I said, ‘I know I need that.’ And He said, ‘Go to Sid Roth, where you use to work.’ I said, ‘Yeah, that’s right.’ So anyway, one of the girls invited me here, and as she was playing, and you told us to just get in the Spirit as she was playing, and I did. And at first it didn’t go away, it seemed like it got harder. The pain, real hard pain like somebody was sticking a knife, an ice pick in my chest. And I said I’m not going to give up. And I just kept praying, and praying, and praying. And it’s gone! It is not there.

SID: Praise God

Audience: (clapping)

RICHARD: They’d go home disappointed. Come back next year, Well one year has to be the year!

LARRY: Yeah.

RICHARD: So it says in the Book of Acts, There were devout Jews from all the surrounding nations come to Jerusalem…. for Shavuot.

LARRY: Yeah.

RICHARD: the Hebrew word; Pentecost. and guess what happens?

LARRY:  h.

RICHARD: Now instead of Mount Sinai in the desert, it’s Mount Zion in Jerusalem.

LARRY: Wow.

RICHARD: It’s repeating it; God comes down with fire, like a mighty wind It’s on the Temple Mount; all this commotion, [laughing] all this noise!

LARRY: Oh my goodness.

RICHARD: I’m getting excited.

LARRY: Oh yeah.

RICHARD: [Excitedly] The people are running to the foot of the mountain! They hear all this, they see all this; now, God comes down in [laughing] tongues of fire, and speaks through.

LARRY: Wow.

RICHARD: all the languages, to all. it. it’s amazing!

LARRY: Now we don’t even think about.

RICHARD: I know it!

LARRY: that parallel.

RICHARD: It’s , and then so now, instead of Moses, Peter gets up.

LARRY: Yeah.

RICHARD: and speaks!

LARRY: Yeah.

RICHARD: And now, to finish the story, instead of 3,000 dying, 3,000. it’s right. God is amazing!.

LARRY: Wow; wow.

RICHARD: (laughing) 3,000 gladly received His Word, and were added into the Kingdom of God. So they got baptized.  The. Hebrew is Mikveh, and these baptismal pools–

LARRY: Yes.

RICHARD: The ruins of them are still there.

LARRY: Mm.

RICHARD: on the southern slopes of the Temple Mount. You can see where these 3,000 people got baptized there.

LARRY: Wow.

RICHARD: Isn’t that amazing!

LARRY: That’s, that’s.

RICHARD: It is so amazing! It’s one book and. and one [laughing] story!

LARRY: Well, and I can.

RICHARD: (laughing) Wow!

LARRY: just to let our viewers know, because so many people, when you actually mention the word Pentecost, they get scared, you know. They get. People think, Oh, Pentecost; we’re associating that with something weird, something bizarre. Pentecost is not something to be afraid of, number one, as Dr. Booker just explained. It actually means, at its root, 50; you know, 50 days.

RICHARD: 50

LARRY: And the wonderful thing, though, is Pentecost is not just an experience to happen one time. It was not just something that happened under the Old Covenant. And it wasn’t just something that happened one day, I-in the Book of Acts. Pentecost, I believe, is the experience that God is inviting every Believer to live under the influence of. If you are thinking to yourself, I wish I could experience God more; I. I wish I could actually, Taste and see that [He] is good. God was never just meant to be a list of rules, regulations, formulas, or concepts. He is a person, and I believe He is a person, through the Holy Spirit, Who wants to have an experience. a dynamic encounter with you. So when we come back, me and Dr. Booker are going to talk about how you can accept the Lord’s invitation, to experience the power and the presence of Pentecost in your life today. Don’t go away. [music] We’ll see you when we come back.

[music]

LARRY: Welcome back to Something More. I’m your host, Larry Sparks, and I’m here with Dr. Richard Booker. We [claps] are going to talk about how you can experience the power of Pentecost in your life today. Now, some of you might be thinking one of two things. Maybe it’s like, I don’t know about that; I’ve never experienced God in that way. I. I want to be faithful to the Word. I’m a person of the Word. And I’ve got some good news for you: God wants you to love His Word; but that Word is an invitation, for you to experience the One it reveals. And number two, you might think to yourself, Well yeah, that Holy Spirit thing, I got that, maybe back in 1975, 1983, 1997. I got filled with the Holy Spirit, baptized in the Spirit, spoke in tongues, fell on the floor, and. and. and.

RICHARD: (laughs)

LARRY: and I’m good; I got my badge.

RICHARD: (laughs)

KHALIDA:  I want you– I saw that on you. I saw that on you– I don’t know your name. But I saw that sweetness of God on you. But God said: ‘sweet is not enough.” Boldness! Boldness! Sweet and bold! You hear me? Sweet and bold! Sweet and bold! Do not be in fear anymore. I don’t know what the Lord called you to do, it’s between you and the Lord. Right now it’s time of worship. God is touching you. I see some of you and I read it on your face. I’m not going to read your mail because that’s not how our God works. He’s a private God. He’s a personal God. He’s a one on one, intimate God. That’s us. Muslim people know that, because we been at His feet. We worship down here. Then when you worship down here God comes from above and He drowns you with His love. So if you have fear in your heart, You’re not sure about your assignment, You’re worried about your look, you being shy, you being scared, you don’t see angels… you want to touch the heaven. Come for–ward and step– in– the river! Today is the day that you ask that your voice be heard. Go for it. Go for it. Use your heavenly language. You pray it, you cry it, you knock on the door and the door will be opened. You say “yes” to heaven and heaven will say “yes” to you– C’mon my brother, do it. Open your mouth, my brother. Open your mouth. Open your mouth. Open it. Open your mouth. C’mon. Open your mouth. Yes, yes, open your mouth. Open your mouth. Open your mouth. Don’t stop until you feel your breakthrough!

AUDIENCE:  (ERUPTING IN PRAYER & TONGUES)

KHALIDA:  Don’t stop! Don’t stop! Don’t stop! Our Jehovah! Our Jehovah! Yes–.yes– yes– yes– yes– yes– yes– yes– yes– God– God– God – God– yes– yes– yes– oh– yes– yes– yes– yes– cry out God– God– yes– yes– yes– Touch heaven––– you touch it–Touch it. Drive it down to earth. Pull it down– Pull it down– pull it down– pull it down– pull it down– pull it down– pull it down– Jesus said– [  ] in heaven is alive– Pull it down– down– down. Yes– rejoice– rejoice– rejoice– spin like a top– spin like a top– spin like a top– Let God manifest. Let God speak out. Let God out of your belly and out of your spirit. Joy– joy– joy– joy– joy– joy–  joy– freedom– freedom– freedom–freedom– freedom–freedom–  joy– joy– joy– joy– Touch, touch, touch, touch, touch, touch, touch, touch, touch, touch, touch, touch, touch, touch, touch, touch, touch, touch, touch, touch, touch, touch, touch, touch, touch, touch, touch., touch, touch, touch, touch! That’s all I have to say. Amen.

SID:  Okay. It’s not all I have to say.

AUDIENCE:  (LAUGHTER)

SID:  I just want to share one quick thing. It is hard, it’s hard to share because it takes a while, but I’m going to do it quick. I’ll do it, where’s Janie, I’ll do it New York style. This woman here was told by God to marry a Christian man. The Christian man was told by God to marry her. They got married and they were supposed to live happily ever after.  She loved this man, but every time she looked at him she wanted to chop his head off. She said, “Why God? I don’t understand.” She went on her knees, and said “God, I’m not leaving this place until you set me free. This is awful what’s going on in my life.” And God said “Your husband is a Jew.” And she said, “No, he’s not.” And He said, He showed her as a baby she received an anti-Semitic spirit and that spirit wanted to kill the Jewish husband and she didn’t even know that he was Jewish. She called her in-laws, and her in-laws said, “Yes, we’re German Jews, we hid that.” But God knew that. God set her free. How good is your marriage today?