SID: So, are you saying that those viewing us right now, that they might’ve had a prediction, a prophecy, a dream, a vision 25 years ago and it never happened and they’ve almost given up, are you saying breathe new life in it because are we at that moment?

TIM: We are at that moment right now. This is the year when the Mega Pentecost begins to erupt. Right now, what is about to happen on earth is an explosion of the power of the Holy Spirit in a Mega Pentecost, where the dune mas of God, dune mas doesn’t mean dynamite by the way, it means the dynamite is lit. The explosion is called dune mas. He is coming with released power from heaven and angels are helping connect it to it’s moment, assist it to be accomplished, activate signs, wonders and miracles and set captives free, supernaturally.

SID: Now declare that right now.

TIM: This is your moment. This is a supernatural moment. And the Holy Spirit is here today and he’s prompting a faith to rise up in you to begin to declare my acceptance of this moment and my promise. And we declare today, things you have been believing for things you posted on the refrigerator, things that are in your little notebook or on the side notes of your Bible, they’re coming to pass right now. The heartaches that and the tears that you prayed all night long for that son and a daughter, they’re coming to their moment, we call them in, in Jesus’ name. That loved one that has been so despondent and discouraged because of traumas in their life even though they may have naturally happened in are real, supernatural power of God is coming to set them free.

Mighty deliverance is coming to you. You may have walked through dark times in the financial realm. You may have even lost your job, but know this today, you are in a supernatural time when God can turn that around for you. I had a vision just two weeks ago, that everywhere I looked on the highway, the signs read U-turns, this is U-turn time. God is turning things around. You may be going this way and it may look bad, but there’s a U-turn coming and you’re going to drive the highway of God and you’re going to see deliverance. You’re going to see freedom like God has promised you. You’re going to see the power of the living God demonstrated in you and your family and hell is not going to be able to stop it because greater is he, that is in us. And our King said that if we would move with him and his authority, we would prevail.

So I declare an anointing to prevail is coming on you, it’s coming on your families, it’s coming on pastors watching this today and your church is going to prevail. We’re going to win this thing Sid, we’re going to see the greatest days in church history.

SID: And if two or more agree touching any one thing it’s going to happen.

TIM: Amen.

SID: In Jesus name, this is your moment.

SID: You make it clear that signs and wonders and experiences are not, get this, not our destiny.

DAVID: Our destiny is Jesus. If it’s from Him, it’s always going to lead back to Him. A genuine encounter is an encounter in His presence. His presence mean His face. I never leave an encounter like this wanting to do something other than fall on my knees and thank Jesus for touching me in such a beautiful and amazing way. The Bible says, if we go into our inner room and pray what we experience in private, God will show in public. But there’s a flip side to that I believe, when we get to experience God in public, that becomes a bottle of alabaster that we get to take from that experience. And then when no one else is looking we get to go back, we get to lay at His feet, to pour out that experience on His feet. And just say, “Jesus, I worship you. I love you. I adore you. Thank you that we are able to experience you in such an incredible way.”

SID: Very important, before David prays for you right now. Repeat this prayer after me, mean it to the best of your ability. Out loud, dear Jesus, I’ve committed many sins, I believe you died for my sins and by your blood, by your stripes I was totally forgiven. Now, that I’m forgiven in Jesus name I ask you to be my savior and Lord. David pray.

DAVID: What if you thought, Lord, I’m going to put my hands out there and I am going to reach for the more of you that’s available right here, right now, today. I believe that some of you that are watching, you’ve been waiting for a season where God’s breaking through. I think that season and that moment’s right now, God’s breaking through, heaven is invading your life. Begin to look for Him. If you have financial needs, look for Him as the answer to your finances. You have physical needs, look for Him as the answer to your physical needs. But most of all, I believe that some of these amazing encounters are love letters to you from a good Papa. He wants to know that He adores you and that He loves you. And I believe that you’re going to experience, because this isn’t just for me, this isn’t just for people in church history, or even in the Bible, God is making Himself available in a brand new, glorious and powerful way. So Jesus touch your people with your encounters and with your glory, that they may know you more in Jesus name.

SID: And that’s the purpose of my life. That’s the purpose of your life, to know Jesus more.

YVON: For me, I used to think that God allowed everything, the evil and the good, and I wasn’t able to distinguish between the two. But by God’s grace, I received healing. I received great healing into an encounter, where later on in life, God showed me that he was right there with me. He embraced me. And He said to me, “I want you to love Muslims. I want you to distinguish between Islam and Muslims. Islam is demonic, but Muslims are victims, and you are to love them because you’re about to be used mightily in their midst.”

SID: And you know what’s so amazing to me? You have seen so many miracles on yourself, but you still did not really believe it was God’s will to heal everyone. Some of you are in that category, too. You believe God heals, but you don’t really believe it’s God’s will to heal everyone, especially you. What do you say?

YVON: Yes, Sid. And I grew up in a church, unfortunately, where I never saw a miracle, never. And I received a lot of bad theology, which basically taught that Jesus healed to prove that he was God. And now that the Bible has been put together, then we no longer need to do this. And so, this was what I grew up with. Now, I was challenged reading the Bible, and I must say a lot of people are challenged, because where do you go from Mark 16? Where do you go, where it says, “Believers lay their hands on the sick, and they shall recover.”

YVON: Well, I was a believer, but I never experienced that. So, that’s what I grew up with. And so, when that miracle happened to me, I just thought, “Well, God is just able to do all things, but it’s not his will to heal. And you don’t even need healing for your Christian journey. In actual fact, God doesn’t even care about your body.” That was my theology, “God cares about you getting to Heaven and getting saved, but your body that’s material. God doesn’t care about that,” until he shook my world.

YVON: I guess the first experience was after I got baptized in the Holy Spirit, I had a skin condition for three years.

SID: Couldn’t a doctor help you?

YVON: No. That’s the thing. I went, literally, to every single doctor. And we had pharmacies, and I used every single product that there is. So then I came to a position where that’s not going to work, and one of the doctors suggested that I would go to see a specialist, which I did. He diagnosed me and he gave me a terrible report. He said to me, “I don’t know where you contracted this virus, but that virus is going to cause your nails to fall off. And unfortunately, it will deform your skin and eat away your skin.” That was the word. He had no cure.

YVON: And I remember, I came in my car, I sat in my car, and I had just been baptized in the Holy Spirit. So I started my car and I was speaking in tongues, because I love doing that. So I’m sitting in the car, enjoying God, because God just wants me to be filled in the Holy Spirit. And as I’m praying, He breaks in. He said, “I want to heal you.” And I pretended like I didn’t hear him. I was like—

SID: Why?

YVON: Because I was scared. I was very scared. Why? I was scared that if that healing did not happen, then it would shake my faith. I was in a good position spiritually. I had just received the baptism.

SID: I understand. Boy, the devil is so diabolical.

YVON: Yes.

SID: Go ahead.

SID: Matt, another vital key to have God’s unstoppable power is one that we hear spoken about a lot. It’s love, for at least the pure raw power. How did you first start learning about that, beyond [what] the Bible says?

MATT: Yeah, well you know, Sid, I had a conversation with an amazing man of God, Al Roberts, Dr. Al Roberts, and it was four months before he went home to be with the Lord. And in this time I asked him a question. I said, “Dr. Roberts, can you tell me what was one of the secrets to your miracle ministry?” And he looked at me and he said, “You know, Matt, a lot of people would say it was my faith.” But he said, “When I would go into the hotel room before our big crusades,” he said, “I found myself praying in a certain direction. I found myself praying and asking God for his love. As I started to pray in that way, I would walk into the tent and I’d see the people. And I would feel God’s heart for the people.” And he said, “The miracles began to explode in this movement of the miraculous in our meeting.”

SID: The greatest of these is love.

MATT: The greatest is love. And Galatians five teaches us this, “That faith…” And I love this, “Faith…” Now many translations say, “works by love.” But that word in the Greek means to activate and to set into motion. So our faith, whether it’s for miracles or breakthrough or whatever we need God to do, it’s actually set into motion by love. And I’ve seen it happen.

SID: You say, you can get a breakthrough and you can be a breakthrough.

MATT: Yeah, that’s right. Many times when God does a work in us, He then releases it through us. An example is when my mom was healed, released our breakthrough for other people. So now we’ve seen thousands of people healed and touched by God’s power and the secret of love flowing through us and receiving a divine love that’s above our own love. We’ve seen miracles and people that you would say, it’s impossible. There was a time a woman was carried into our meeting, dying of bone cancer. She looked like a skeleton. She couldn’t walk. They physically carried her in and put her on the front row sitting right next to my mom. And as she was sitting there, she couldn’t move, couldn’t walk. I was praying for folks at the altar and I see my mom, who truthfully exudes the love of Jesus. She just simply put her arms around this lady and held her.

MATT: And I saw her whisper into her ear. And I thought, “Well, she’s praying for her. Well then all of a sudden, I see this woman jump up from the front row and start dancing around the altar, throwing her arms and legs in the air, screaming out, “I’m healed, I’m healed, I’m healed. My son drove me to the meeting. He’s out in the parking lot. I need to go tell him that Jesus healed me tonight.” And she runs right by me right down the center aisle of the church, right out of the building. Carried in, dying of bone cancer and runs out, healed by God. And afterwards I said, “Mom, what happened?” She said, “Matt…” She said, “All of a sudden from my belly, this love rose up on the inside of me. This love for this lady and all I could do was hold her. And as I held her, the power of God went into her body and she got healed.”

SID:  I want everyone that is with us right now to become normal! And so we’re making available Robbie’s book “Do What Jesus Did.” It’s actually a full package. It includes 4 CD’s. And the thing that I want toget into actually on when we come back has to do with the “chutzpah” that you operate under but you’re not the only one in your family that operates under “holy chutzpah.”

ROBBY:  That’s right.

SID:  Your wife did something that astounds me more than the story you just told me but we’ll talk about that when we come back. But this whole series “Do What Jesus Did” package you have these amazing true stories but you have the teaching worked right in along with it. And many people say that you’ll become spiritual giants. You’ll actually emerge as a spiritual giant from this material! What kind of feedback are you getting from ordinary Christians that start harnessing this power?

ROBBY:  Well it’s incredible reports of people coming back that are, that are going out and praying the same way and seeing the same results. And you know I mean they’re tapping into the reality of Christ in them. You know they’re, they’re people who have been praying for change in their community and transformation in their family. I mean the answer is Christ in you and if we have relationship with Jesus Christ then, then it’s there. And the ingredients to do all the things Jesus did lives in us if we have relationship and we’ve been filled with the Holy Spirit.

SID:  And you teach the prophetic, you teach how to heal—

ROBBY:  Absolutely.

SID:  But you teach something that so few believers understand and ministering the presence of God! I want totalk about that also when we come— I’ve got too much to talk to Robby about. For an investment of 39 dollars I’d love to send you the “Do What Jesus Did” package, the 4 CD’s and the Book. And I’ll be back with “Something More!”

SID:  Sid Roth with “Something More!” Our brand new digital show. And I’m talking to Robby Dawkins and I’m having a good time. I hope you’re having as good a time. Robby, you told me something during our break.  

ROBBY:  Yeah. You know with the book “Do What Jesus Did” that I wrote, it came out a couple of years ago, that we have affidavits. It was really important to me because some of the stories are just hard you know I think for people’s heads to get wrapped around. And so we decided, my wife and I prayed about it, and decided that with each one of the stories that were told that we would have affidavits from eyewitnesses or the people that were you know were receiving the miracle or the healing themselves. And so we did that just as an extra step you know just to make sure that we had you know just that validation behind it.

SID:  I know but this book’s been out about 2 years and the things are outrageous of what God’s doing with you right now. Speaking of affidavits, you’ve got something better. You actually had a medical doctor in England when someone actually died on you.

ROBBY:  Yeah.  

SID:  But this time he came back to life. And I am so glad I have the doctor’s testimony right here. And I’ll tell you why. Because the guy that came back to life has a sister that’s a non-believer (laughing) and she wasn’t even there. The guy’s mother was there (laughing) and she’s very upset that this miracle took place. What happened in England?

ROBBY:  Well it was, it was incredible. We had— I love to go to these little, I’ve got quite a following in England and I love the, I love to go to these little churches and just sort of give visions to the pastors and leaders by you know because the Lord’s really blessed me you know to have a good bit of people you know show up and so we had had this pastor had been writing for some time asking me to come and it’s a little you know town, a population of only 180 people and you know the church was far less than that in attendance and you know I just wanted to help give vision and so went there and spent the first part of the day, it was amazing. We went to an area where there was a children’s training area and ministered to some kids and you know saw all the kids. Had the kids pray for each other. Had one kid pray for an instructor who got healed and then you know prayed for one child who had had a burn on her arm, that she’d just come back from the hospital. Had, had a five year old boy pray for her and you know the pain of the burn completely left. It was just amazing.

SID: You realize LaDonna, that is a creative Miracle and any scientifically minded person would have said to you, “Impossible.” But it’s too late for you LaDonna, you’ve seen too much.

LADONNA: Too late for me.

SID: Too late for you [laughs], too late for me too.

LADONNA: Yes Sir, Yes, Sir—Yes, Sir—[laughs]. See if people can only just trust God, they will see these kind, of Miracles also. These are not just isolated phenomenon; No, Miracles are the manifestation or the proof of God’s Word. And it’s just very clear; All we have to do is believe, not experiment, not test, not just check it out, just believe.

SID: And how do you believe if you haven’t seen what LaDonna has seen? What T.L. Osborn has seen? You know, you’ve never seen stuff like that. How do you just cold turkey; just start believing? [laughs]

LADONNA: [laughs] I think it begins with a real experience with Jesus Christ. Because when you have that real experience, then you know as well as I, that something in your heart has changed. And God in His mercy, He actually gives a capacity, to believe in what we have not yet seen. But once we experience Jesus, and we learn to walk with Him, and trust Him, we let Him come and be involved in our daily lives. Then we study His Words, and we listen to His Words, we see His actions. And as we’re acquainted with Him, that capacity to believe becomes very powerful. The Apostle Paul says it simply, “Faith comes by hearing, and hearing the Word of God.” But in my vernacular, I would just say, “You get to know Him, and trust Him.” Then whatever He says, you know is absolute truth.

SID: And what I believe, is when they get a hold of your Parents book, “Biblical Healing” and get hold of your 3 CD series about the best teaching you have on Miracles, and then the bonus CD, “Jesus Visited Our House” in which you’ll hear T.L. and Daisy go back and forth and sharing in which more Miracles occur than anything they’ve ever done when people just listen to this teaching. Here are the 3 words that I love; the book and the teaching of LaDonna, the 3 CDs and Bonus, simple, proven, powerful. You see, LaDonna is building on the shoulders of her Pioneer Parents, and I want to get this entire healing package in your hands for an investment of $45. This is such and an amazing time that we are living in right now. If I could choose any time on the planet to be alive, it would be ‘now’! This is the wrap-up. We are going to see one of the, greatest harvest, of souls in history. We’re going to see, not just a ‘revival’ as we were talking about yesterday in our prayer meeting. We’re not going to see a ‘revival’; we’re going to see an ‘Awakening’. Entire countries are going to come to the Lord, and I have to believe LaDonna got it. God has positioned you, but I believe there are people that are watching me right now, LaDonna. That when they get a hold of this book, what is the feedback? And we asked you, which of all the books is the most important? What’s the feedback you get on “Biblical Healing” by your dad?

LADONNA: This is the book that produces so many Miracles. It’s not just information about healing, it’s for sick people. And it’s to train Christians, believers in how to minister healing to others. So people are writing us all the time, every country I go to saying, “My life was changed.” Now we know how to see the power of God. I’m telling you, these are such practical not only faith building but life changing materials. I’m just so delighted that your friends and listeners are going to be able to have access to this great treasure.

JAMIE: Tell me about this village in northern Ethiopia.

JONATHAN: Oh my goodness.

JAMIE: This is a miracle story!

JONATHAN: Yeah. Last year, we were doing a medical clinic outreach in northern Ethiopia, near a city called Dundore, which is, historically, where the Jewish community of Ethiopia is from. And we had a lot of opposition from the Orthodox Christian community; in fact, they shut down the prayer room. What do you do when they shut down the prayer room? Is this an attack from the enemy? Well, as a result, our team started to go out into the highways and the byways, into remote villages, to proclaim the Gospel. And one team traveled about two kilometers up this mountain, to this isolated village, where they met the chief of the village who said, “I’ve been waiting for you. I had a dream that one would come and tell me about the sun,” S U N, but it turned out to be the Son, S O N, and the entire village came to faith, all Jews.

JAMIE: Oh my goodness. So they’re waiting for your arrival. It’s like they were warned in advance.

JONATHAN: They were. It’s like right out of the Book of Acts being fulfilled before our very eyes. That’s how I feel sometimes.

JAMIE: So this is now, this discovery of the lost tribes, you’re saying that that is the fundamental part of the restoration of Israel?

JONATHAN: Here’s what I’m saying, Jamie. I think that there’s a number of different prophecies that are directly connected to the last days, (I’m talking about preceding the return of Jesus), that are often overlooked. We’re focused over here on the antichrist, on Gog and Magog, on the revelation of the beast, and a ten-nation confederacy, and so on. And my book is saying, “Wait. Okay, but here’s a whole bunch of things that are being fulfilled, right now, that are off the radar. And one of them is the regathering of the Jewish people back to their land and back to their God.” There’s blindness coming off of the eyes of the Jewish people.

JAMIE: I feel like we can just go into this for days.

JONATHAN: We could.

JAMIE: Okay, if you’re tuning in right now, I’m with the Jewish Indiana Jones. This is amazing, so fascinating to me. I have more questions. Stay tuned for this next part [music]. We’re on “Something More”, I’m Jamie Galloway. Get ready because we’re going to learn some major things about the end times.

JAMIE: Welcome back to “Something More”, I’m Jamie Galloway. Jonathan Bernis is with us today and we’re unlocking the prophetic mysteries of Israel. We have some fascinating subject material, specifically about the end times. I mean, this is your lane, the end times. I’m so intrigued. There’s so much material—

JONATHAN: There is and we can only scratch the surface today.

JAMIE: Yeah. So tell me, you know, with the lost tribes and the connection to the end times, make the connection point there. What does that mean to me? I’m a selfish Gentile, you know. I want something for me. I want a breakthrough for me. Why am I praying for the lost tribes to be restored?

JONATHAN: Well, first of all, Psalms 122:6 connects praying for the Jewish people, the peace of Jerusalem. Which the word shalom there, doesn’t mean peace really; it means the completion of God’s plan and purpose. So it’s to bring to fullness the plan that God has for people and for a land. And then it says those who love thee, those that are on board with this, will prosper. So I tell people if you want to prosper, here’s a clear link to prosper. Pray for God’s plan for the Jewish people to come to pass, to come to completion, both the land and the people, because our salvation, and the salvation of the world, is linked to Israel and the Jewish people. And I make that case in the book over and over and over again. Why do you bless the Jewish people? Because their salvation brings life from the dead.

BRIAN: It was almost like a great cloud of witnesses cheering me on! “Go for it!” And now just something breaks deep in my heart that I think really kept me going to press into Jesus!

DONNA: Wow! And you know I think it’s great that you had an opportunity as soon as that wonderful thing happened in your life you had an opportunity to give testimony.

BRIAN: Yes!

DONNA: Which I think is a great thing for advice for anybody. Anytime something happens, God does something wonderful in your life, it’s so important to give testimony.

BRIAN: Right.

DONNA: So you went back home now a born again believer. Years passed. You were serving. You’re a Christian. You were wanting to do as much as you could do.

BRIAN: Yeah.

DONNA: And you got invited back to, of all places, a youth camp!

BRIAN: I did! And you know I had been serving at some different youth camps and I was excited to come. And this is a little interesting. Before I actually went to the camp, probably a week before, I literally found myself in the middle of the night waking up and I was just crying and travailing and speaking in tongues which I never had done something like that before. And I kept hearing this thing. “Oh, but the love of God for camp! Oh, but the love of God for camp!”

DONNA: Mmm!

BRIAN: And I didn’t know how critical that thing was going to be until later. So we show up at the camp and you know it was just a regular camp. In fact, honestly it was my buddy and I were, the only ones, that were, doing a Bible study in a Christian camp. And we did a thing called “The Cross and the Flame.”  

DONNA: Yes. So it’s like a class. 

BRIAN: It was a class we were doing. Yeah.

DONNA: A class you offered. 

BRIAN: And we had about 7 people show up out of 300 so it wasn’t really that great, right?

DONNA: It wasn’t that popular! [Laughs]

BRIAN: So we just taught a little bit about what we knew about Jesus and the Holy Spirit. Well, something incredible happened that evening that was remarkable. All of a sudden these kids just start to worship! And as they’re worshipping God I mean just the presence gets really, really thick! And I hadn’t seen these kids at all do this. They hadn’t been in an environment for that. They had never been taught that. 

DONNA: Uh-huh.

BRIAN: And they were praying prayers like, “Lord, let Your kingdom come!” And all of a sudden – it made some of the leaders there a little bit nervous. [Laughs] And they stopped it and said, “Okay, we’re going to move on.” And so we move on and we go outside and they were going to have this little thing where they actually wrote their sins on a card and threw it in the fire and you know just one of those camp things. 

DONNA: Yeah. Yeah.

BRIAN: And all of a sudden again they start worshipping, these kids! And again a nervousness comes to the leaders and they go up and they say “Hey, it’s time to stop. It’s time to go eat some s’mores.

DONNA: [Laughs]

BRIAN: Right? I mean literally just stops the thing. Right? We’re in the presence of God.

DONNA: When you don’t know what to do, just go eat s’mores! Right?

BRIAN: Exactly right! And so this 7th-grade boy comes up to me and tugs me on the shirt and says, “Brian.” He said, “How come every time the Holy Spirit comes, these pastors tell Him to go away?”  You know my mouth just dropped. I’m like, “I don’t know.” At that moment this girl comes running up and says to the young man is there something wrong with your sister? You know I thought maybe she had a heat stroke? She had an asthma attack? Whatever. Anyway, I walked over and she’s shaking on the ground speaking in tongues!   

DONNA: Whoa! [Laughs]

DAVID: And so as I’m ministering, I’m preaching my message. And I like to use, what’s called spirit-led structure. You set it up and then the Holy Spirit can knock it down if he wants. So I’m over there ministering. And I remember hearing the words coming out of my mouth, but it was as if I was a listener with those in the congregation, listening to me speak. I remember hearing myself interrupting my own sermon. And it was as if the Holy Spirit had taken hold of me. I understand that we have self control. It is a fruit of the spirit, but this was not a loss of control. This was an overtaking, being controlled from the deepest part of who I am.

SID: You were operating out of the spirit, not within the brain and the flesh.

DAVID: Right. It was a different function. And I remember when that anointing comes on me, I become a different person. And so I remember in the middle of my sermon, I start calling this woman up and I knew that I knew that I knew that she would be healed. And so she comes to the front I very gently took her cane, set it aside. And I told her to receive her miracle. Right there in front of everyone. She began to move her right arm, her right hand and lift her right leg. She hadn’t been able to do that for years, move like that. And there was a collective gasp and sense of awe that came over the congregation. By the end of that revival weekend, she was dancing on the platform during the worship and the people’s faith was stirred. But that’s what comes, things like that, they’re a manifestation of living in that inner reality with the spirit

SID: The oneness you talk about, that’s what you’re explaining right now. When people read your book and you explain how to pray in the Spirit in the book. Can every true believer enter this oneness, this surrender that God has directed you to?

DAVID: Absolutely. First John 2:27 says we’ve all received that anointing within. We’ve all received that stirring within us, the Holy Spirit residing. Now, some people want to know, “Well, how do I activate that? Because I know I’ve had that deposit.” Well, think about this, first Thessalonians 5:23 alludes to the fact that I am a spirit who has a soul that lives in a body. My body is my earth suit, my soul, my mind, my will, my emotions. And my spirit is my connection with God. So the key then is surrendering the outer shells of who you are to that inner reality. John 7:38, out of your innermost being shall flow rivers of living water.

DAVID: Surrendering to that innermost reality is the essence of the Christian life. It’s not something special for people who sit on Sid Roth’s program. It’s not something special for the guy who stands at the pulpit with a microphone. This is to be, the early church understood this. This is why the gospel exploded onto the scene in the face of persecution, because they grabbed ahold of the reality that all believers get their identity from deep within, not judging themselves based upon the outer shells, but pulling from that inner reality and recognizing, “I am one with the Holy Spirit, I am one with God. I fellowship with him already. And it’s just a matter of releasing that through surrender.”

SID: The most amazing thing is some of you may have tuned in late, or you take a look at David and you say, “Well, he’s a pretty young guy. I don’t know if he can teach me anything.” How many years have you walked with the Holy Spirit?

SID: Yeah. You know, Katie has researched these scriptures, but this is something I’ve always wondered. Moses, Caleb, they were elderly men, and their strength wasn’t abated. Even their eyesight didn’t even fade. They somehow knew this secret.

KATIE: Yes, they did. The devil even fought over Moses’s body. Think about that. Why did he want to do that? Probably wanted to look into how he stayed so young.

Caleb gives us the answer. Remember it says that when they went into the Promised Land, that Caleb went to Joshua and said, “Okay, I’m 85 years old. I want my inheritance. Because 45 years ago, Moses told me that my inheritance was the hill country of Hebron,” which is where the Anakim, the giants lived. Okay? He told Joshua, he said, “I’m 85 now, but I’m just as strong as I was back then 45 years ago. In fact, I’m just as strong going into battle as I am coming out of battle.”

Now, what was his secret? He’s an 85-year-old in a 45-year-old’s body. What’s his secret? He was from the tribe of Judah. It’s praise. See, when we praise, when we worship, it brings in the glory.

SID: Okay. Now, tell me, very briefly, and this is outrageous, the woman with the dead bones.

KATIE: Okay. There was a woman named Terry Woods. I’m in Oregon with Steve Schultz. I’m doing a conference. The power shows up. I’m walking in this revelation already over the spirit of death. I say, “Whoever got a miracle now,” because I started operating in miracles, I said, “Come up to the front.” You can watch this on YouTube. Every video, every miracle we’ve ever had is on YouTube. Okay.

She comes up. Her name is Terry. She had what’s called a dead bone. An MRI and an X-ray proved that the ball at the top of her arm was completely dead. But even though it was dead, it caused her excruciating pain, like 10 level plus pain. She was scheduled to have a surgery to try to do something to fix it. Even though she had that pain, she could bend her elbow here, but she couldn’t raise her arm.

I come up and I said, “Whoever’s 100% healed, come up.” She walks up to the stage, looks at me and goes, “100%.” She’s bawling. I call her up. She tells the story. I said, “How’s the pain now, girl?” She goes, “No pain.” I go, “Can you move your arm?” She proceeds to throw her arms up and down…. a victory stance, and a thousand people going crazy.

SID: But she can’t do that with this—

KATIE: No, no. In fact, she canceled the surgery that she was scheduled to have.

SID: Sounds good to me. When we return, Katie will break off the spirit of death on your health, mind, family and finances. Be right back

SID: Hello. Sid Roth here talking with Katie Souza. This is ridiculous, Katie.

KATIE: Yeah.

SID: A lady shook off the spirit of death?

KATIE: Oh yeah.

SID: Tell me….

KATIE: I actually shook it off her through the power of God. Her name was Marilyn. I’m in a meeting. I’m taking questions from people afterwards. She stands in back of me, waiting in line. She tugs on my shirt, finally, to get my attention. I turned around and I said, “What can I do for you?” She said, “I am dying.”

I looked at her, and she was right. Sid, she looked just like the man in Job 33. Her bones were sticking out. Her flesh was clinging to her body. She was gray. Her hair was sparse. She did look like she was literally at death’s door.

Then she began to explain how she had radon poisoning and also mold poisoning, and how the doctors had treated her, but she could never recover. She said, “I’m weak. I can’t drive. I can’t get myself ready. I barely want to eat. Nothing satisfies me.” She goes, “I know I’m dying.”

As she’s telling me the story, Sid, I see a vision in my mind. I see a vision of me grabbing hold of her and violently shaking her, while commanding the spirit of death to come out. Now, I don’t recommend this for the audience. Okay. They have to have a word of knowledge before they do it.