Its Supernatural

Our Guest Joshua Giles

SID: Joshua Giles dreamed of playing professional baseball. He’d do anything to achieve it. He said a prayer at 12, but never had a personal relationship with God. At 22 years old, he was about to encounter a curve ball that he never saw coming. Joshua suddenly in your life, the supernatural became more real than the real. What happened?

JOSHUA: Absolutely. At 22 years old, it’s funny that because there’s a thin layer between the natural and the supernatural. One day, God just lifted the blinds. Literally, the supernatural world became so much more real than the natural. I’m like, “What is going on here?” It was terrifying because the first thing that I began to see was what was affecting my life? What I had allowed in my life through sticking my hand into iniquity or sin.

Things that we just don’t think may not have consequences. We don’t realize some of the things we allow into our life. I remember seeing all these demonic entities aligning up every night, coming to attack me. I couldn’t sleep. I remember sleeping with the light on. Didn’t want to go to the bathroom at night.

SID: That doesn’t work out too well when you’re an athlete.

JOSHUA: No, God.

SID: If you don’t sleep, you don’t have your endurance.

JOSHUA: I was tired. I had to go to school and eight hours of baseball. It was tormenting in the sense of exhaustion. That really led me to the point of where I was just done with it. I cried out one night in prayer and I said, “God, kill me or deliver me.” That’s when everything began to change.

SID: What happened?

JOSHUA: I went to a game the very next day when playing a team. Never played before in my life. I’m in the outfield. We’re having our pregame ritual, so to speak, for baseball, where everybody is preparing for the game. A young man from the other team came over and he looked at me and he says, “You had a car wreck five years ago. The devil tried to kill you.” In which, I did.

I hit a guy head on at 80 miles an hour when I was 18 years old and walked out that night from the hospital. One of the first times that God began to protect me. He says, “You’re being attacked at night by demons. God wants to deliver you.” I’m sitting here like, “What in the world is this?” I felt it and I had to pray the prayer [like] the night before. Next thing you know, he lays hands on me.

I feel that, the presence and power of God touched me. I’ve never felt that free and uplifting, like a weight had been lifted off of me. I go back to the dugout and I’m just rocking back and forth like, “God’s called me. God’s called me.” My teammates look at me like, “You’re crazy. What are you doing?” All I could focus on was there was no more baseball. I was focusing on what just happened here.

Our Guest Jerame Nelson

JERAME: I actually looked over like this. I could see his headlights coming at my door and I just yelled, “Jesus.” When I did, the car went right through my car physically. I looked in the rear view mirror and it almost hit the guy behind me, but that guy swerved out of the way. I was so shook. After that I said, “God, what was that?” He said, “That was me saving you because you have way too many souls to win in your calling.”

I said, “Well, where’s that at in the Bible?” He said, “Jerame, remember when they took Jesus by the scruff of his neck to throw him off the pinnacle of the cliff and he said that he just walked right through them?” He said, “I caused that car to go through you, because I still have a calling on your life.” I’m telling, he said if you have a calling and you are fulfilling that calling God will protect the anointing of God on your life at all costs.

SID: Could you catch that? He did one thing that caused something in the invisible world to be activated, to save his life. He only did one thing. Do you know what he did? He cried out the name Jesus.

JERAME: That’s right.

SID: Now, Jerame will teach you the major key in his life that released God’s presence, and it’s available to you. Be right back.

SID: I’ve been to many Resurrection Sunday services, but guess what? When Jerame had a Resurrection Sunday, people that died came back to life. What happened?

JERAME: Yeah. We were doing a Resurrection Sunday service at the revival and God had spoke to me right before the service, and he said, “I want you the week before to declare that power is going to come to raise the dead and that even if someone died, bring the dead.” I’ll never forget because I was really excited and I was halfway terrified because I thought, “Wow, what if someone brings a dead person? Long story short, we get to the service. No one brought anybody that was dead. Then I was disappointed and at the very end of the meeting, I decided, “Well, you know what? We’re going to pray resurrection over everything we can. Finances, people’s bodies, whatever.” I said, “If you have a need, just write it down on a card and bring it up.”

This lady came up with a card and she actually had a letter. She said, “I want you to pray for my friend in Egypt.” Well, she forgot to tell me an important fact that she had died just that day before. I said to her, “Well, let’s pray. I release resurrection power and we command this dead situation to come to life.” What was amazing is that in Egypt, this woman rose from the dead. Right when we made the decree.

Our Guest Donna Schambach

DONNA: that goes like a seed into the hearts of people. Faith comes alive, and that opens them up to the supernatural.

LARRY: Yeah.

DONNA: And that night, I waited for 2-1/2 hours while people gave testimony of how they were SNAPS FINGERS instantly healed.

LARRY: Wow.

DONNA: from AIDS.

LARRY: W-well it’s interesting; as you’re talking about his words being cloaked in this dewdrop, I’m thinking of the words of Jesus where Jesus says, John 6:63, My words are spirit, and they are life.

DONNA: and life. Exactly.

LARRY: And I think to myself, Jesus is announcing that His words are spirit.

DONNA: Yes.

LARRY: which makes me think it’s like you’re saying it’s more than when we’re speaking; it’s more than just syllables coming together.

DONNA: Yes.

LARRY: it’s more than just words of grammar. When we’re saying what He’s saying.

DONNA: Exactly.

LARRY: about those who are in captivity, or those who are sick and demonized when we’re saying what Jesus says about those people, I believe our words actually carry presence.

DONNA: Absolutely. And Jesus actually, you know, when He came up out of the waters of baptism, and He was baptized in the Holy Spirit.

LARRY: Yes.

DONNA: actually as Jesus taught, He went into the waters, but the waters went into Him.

LARRY: Yeah; that’s good.

DONNA: it came out of Him.

LARRY: Yes.

DONNA: But the first thing that He did is He went to Nazareth.

LARRY: Yeah.

DONNA: and He began to PROCLAIM, I am the Mashiach.

LARRY: Yeah.

DONNA: I am the One Who is anointed. The Spirit of God is on Me.

LARRY: Yeah.

DONNA: But it’s on me for purpose.

LARRY: Yes.

DONNA: And sometimes I feel like we make it so complicated. We think that we’re going to, you know, walk around in this aura, or a cloud of glory.

LARRY: Yeah.

DONNA: But really what it’s about is the mission that the Lord.

LARRY: Yes.

DONNA: sent us on. He said He sent me, to proclaim the good news.

LARRY: Yeah.

DONNA: to the poor.

LARRY: Yeah.

DONNA: What does that mean? That He wants to change their situation!

LARRY: Yes.

DONNA: He came to heal the brokenhearted;

LARRY: Yeah.

DONNA: He came to set the captives free.

LARRY: Yes.

DONNA: Not just be concerned about them, but CLAPS HANDS do something about their situation. And in order to do that, He had to have that mantle that anointing.

LARRY: Yeah; yeah.

DONNA: and that’s what we covet.

LARRY: That’s awesome. Well in the next  segment, we’re actually going to talk about the difference between spiritual authority, and anointing, and how you can actually cultivate a lifestyle of the anointing being SATURATED in the presence of God and then ACTIVATING the AUTHORITY that Jesus has already given you. I am just so excited, because again what Donna is sharing, these are things that she gleaned from her dad, R.W. Schambach. And she was mentioning T.L. T.L. Osborn; I start thinking. of people like Kathryn Kuhlman, and that great ERA of healing evangelists. And you know what? The wonderful thing is. that they were wonderful people, and we look up to them; but I believe so much of their lives, and so much of what they learned, is transferrable to you, and to me. And they actually set an example for us of how for us o-our lives today, to be SATURATED in the presence of God, and operate in that same spiritual authority that Jesus has given us. So d- w-we’ll see you when we get back, and we will learn about how to actually start FLOWING in these things, in the anointing and authority.

Our Guest John Burke

DONNA: Hello everyone. Welcome to Something More. I’m Donna Chavis, your host. And our guest today is pastor of Gateway Church in Austin, Texas. And we’re going to talk to him a little bit about God’s Unshockable Love. Please welcome John Burke. Hi John.

JOHN: Donna, thanks for having me here today.

DONNA: Absolutely. Thanks for being here. Now, John, you pastor Gateway Church in Austin, Texas, but you’ve told us that there was, actually, a supernatural encounter that led you to Austin.

JOHN: That’s right. Twenty years ago, or a little more, my wife and I were living in Chicago. Two little babies. And I was on the way to a retreat that I was hosting for about three hundred people, and a friend of mine was in the car and asked me, You know. How long do you think you’ll be in Chicago – and at this church, I was working at? And I said, I don’t know. I know God clearly led me here. And when He gives me a vision and tells me its time, I’ll go. But I know I’ll be here through the year 2000. I confidently said. That was 1997. And that day in worship I had this overwhelming, clear, Its time, from the Lord. And it wasn’t just two words. It was this complete communication of reminding me of all the times we had stepped out in faith

DONNA: Mm. Yes. Yes.

JOHN: And followed Him into the unknown, and how He had come through. And He was saying its time again. And I went home, and I told my wife. And she said, Did you forget we just had a baby? [Laughs]

DONNA: [Laughs]

JOHN: Like three months ago. And I was like, If this is from the Lord, He’ll show you, too. And we started to pray and realized that what was on Gods heart was a generation of people who were hurting, addicted, broken, far from God and didn’t know that God cared, didn’t know that He had compassion and mercy and that He wanted us to start a church, and, actually, churches, that would go into the world with His compassion and mercy for a hurting world.

DONNA: Uh-huh

JOHN: And that led us to Austin, and to start gateway Church in Austin.

DONNA: And, as you said, as you were getting this download from God speaking to you about moving, it sounds like He was birthing that compassion for this group of people in your heart. I mean, you were already feeling it.

JOHN: Yeah. He, I would be driving along, and I would hear secular songs on the radio, and through every lyric, He was showing me the cries of a generation.

DONNA: Ah.

JOHN: It was like I could feel what He felt. And I’d be driving along, listening, in tears. And I’m like, What’s going on with me?

DONNA: Yeah. Yeah.

JOHN: But He had compassion for people I didn’t even know. And, you know, Donna, what is so amazing is, we just celebrated twenty years. And we filled up one of the biggest event centers in Austin. And I asked people to, you know, light up their phone if they had found faith, or overcome an addiction, or seen a marriage healed, and the whole place lit up.

DONNA: Wow. Wow.

Our Guest Randy Clark

SID:  that first meeting.

RANDY:  Ooooh!

SID:  Uh tell me what you remember at that first meeting in Toronto.

RANDY:  I’m praying for the HEAT to come upon the leaders –

RANDY:  Well there wasn’t very many people there; between 120 and 160.

RANDY:  evangelists, and the missionaries, as a sign of the healing anointing.  Lord, the electricity, as Paul, the Apostle Paul said,

SID:  It was a storefront, as I understand, which then became the – the Air- – Toronto Airport Church.

RANDY:  “[When we] labor [with all of] His [energy], -“

RANDY:  Yes.

RANDY:  “which [works so] mightily … within [us].”

RANDY:  Uh when I first went there, the sanctuary – it seats 400 – 300 in the overflow.

RANDY:  And so God, I’m asking, arms up toward Heaven; let the Holy Spirit fall on them.

RANDY:  Uh, a few months later they built a – bought a place that seats 5,000.

RANDY:  Release the angels of God.

RANDY:  They had explosive growth.  Uh, –

RANDY:  Release the anointing for the gifts of the Holy Spirit.  Release them with rivers that flow!

RANDY:  but I remember one woman in p- –

RANDY:  Let the power upon these pastors, I pray God, for FIRE, and POWER, –

RANDY:  uh the first guy, the very first man that go so touched – he’s shaking all over –

RANDY:  and ANOINTING to come upon us.

RANDY:  he became a missionary in Russia.

SID:  Hm.

RANDY:  Uh, o-one of the first women that was uh, laughing, and on the floor; and I – I walked away from; the Lord said, “Go back and tell her she’s been sad too long.”  Well I found out later that she well – well had a terminal illness, and had been fighting a terminal illness for years.  And that moment, the joy of the Lord came on her, and she laughed for hours!  She got totally healed of her terminal condition, and now she has a ministry uh going particularly into Scandinavia.  And it was actually – she actually laid hands on – I didn’t know it, but the – a 9-month w- – m- – a woman, 9-month pregnant, had just been told her baby had died in the womb, and was going to have to have a stillbirth.  She doesn’t know that; walked up to the woman in the meeting, lays her hands on her abdomen; prays, just blessing this baby, not knowing it’s dead.  Two years later when she went back to that church in that city, the little miracle boy came and jumped in her arms, that came to life while dead in the womb.  And it’s – that’s the second uh person in Toronto that – that uh was – was powerfully touched!

SID:  Well I – I have to believe the most AMAZED person, n-now you had had several meetings before that where the same things were going on; but you had no guarantee that it would continue going on.  Did you think it would just stop after a few meetings?

RANDY:  Well I actually did.  When I – I mean, I had a prophetic word that gave me courage it was going to be very powerful, but I had no idea how powerful.  I mean, just – I just thought of, while you were asking questions –

SID:  I mean MILLIONS of people went to that little storefront church, except it wasn’t storefront anymore; they expanded.  I think –

RANDY:  Yeah.

Our Guest Randy Clark

RANDY:  including the most prestigious hospital in Ontario, Canada, the province.  And – and so, the girl comes in – who’s been incommunicative – and had not – not basically not getting out of bed – and she said, “Mom, why are you crying?  Why are you sad?  Isn’t my brother coming home next week?  Shouldn’t we go to the grocery store and get some stuff to prepare things for him, and for his visit?”  And her mother w-was telling me this on Saturday night, because it happened on Friday night, and she came to church on Saturday night and was telling me.

RANDY:  And she was crying, and she was showing me in the book, “This is what I read!  This is what I read!

RANDY:  This – and this has so helped me!”  And – and -and then she said, “I got my daughter back!”, and she just starts weeping, weeping.  So Sunday morning, –

RANDY:  the daughter comes with her to church.

RANDY:  I’m getting ready to go to catch an airplane; and just as we’re leaving, I – I just get to spend 2 minutes with her, but I’d – I – I give the pastor the heads-up.  He followed-up to her that morning, and then the following week; and he’s had uh I think two; one of them was a half-hour, and another was an – over an half-hour dialogue.  And you know he’s not a psychiatrist, but if – if you’ve met with schizophrenic people, it doesn’t take long; you can – you don’t have to be psychiatrist [CHUCKLES] to know that they’re schizophrenic.  But anyway, he sees – he says, “Randy, she’s normal.  When I talked to her, she seemed normal.  She held a conversation; she didn’t have that look in her eyes”, you know.  And so this girl, and when – and Doug’s getting it now; he’s getting a video of it; gonna send it to me – is just normal!  She’s been healed of schizophrenia!

SID:  Well now what’s the poten- – what’s the potential of someone that has –

RANDY:  Well, let me tell ya.

SID:  severe schizophrenia being healed uh by a simple prayer?  [CHUCKLES]

RANDY:  Well this is a second one.  Several years ago, we had uh uh another person whose – whose dad was uh in a uh 5,- or 5,- or 6,000 member –

RANDY:  This is a pastor who’s on the team of a 6,000 member Southern Baptist Church [unintelligible].

RANDY:  Southern Baptist Church, and he was on staff there as a pastor – one of the pastors. 

RANDY:  And uh his daughter got healed in one of our meetings –

RANDY:  of severe paranoid schizophrenia, obsessive compulsive disorder, and anorexia, and she got healed; so that’s two!  Well I was telling that first story down in Brazil, and I had a psychiatrist –

Our Guest Judy Franklin

JUDY: I said, “Oh yeah; the Bible, and books, and -“; He says, “You can hear about Me every day”; I said “Yeah; CDs, tapes, you know, television”. And He said, “You’re affected by what I do.” I said, “Oh, yes!” He said, “How well do you know Me?”

LARRY: Mm!

JUDY: I said, “I don’t.”

LARRY: Wow.

JUDY: “I know what the Word says about You” –

LARRY: Yeah.

JUDY: “but I don’t know You.”

LARRY: Yeah.

JUDY: And from that time on, I wanted to know Who He was.

LARRY: Yeah.

JUDY: And there’s a way to know Who He is! There’s a way in this realm that He takes you into, that you can go face-to-face with Him! You know the Word says if you see God you’ll die.

LARRY: Yeah.

JUDY: Absolutely the truth; –

LARRY: Yes.

JUDY: I almost did. But in the spiritual, you can see!

LARRY: Yeah.

JUDY: And I you can be face-to-face with Him; you can see the face of God. You can every time you look at Him, or His Son, or the Holy Spirit, all you see is love, –

LARRY: Yes.

JUDY: Because that’s Who He is. He doesn’t have love; He is love!

LARRY: Mm!

JUDY: And that changes lives, when you know how much He loves you and accepts you! You become bolder, because you know He loves you!

LARRY: Yeah.

JUDY: It changes lives, to know His love!

LARRY: Judy, I feel and again, I feel like the Holy Spirit’s really moving on this right now. And again, for those of you who are watching, what well when the Lord really asked Judy this question, “How well do you know me?”, what I love about her response is it was not a response of, “Oh, you know God, I’m so sorry”, feeling  shame, or guilt; “Oh God, I don’t know You”; “, I don’t know You as well as I want to”. And maybe there’s some of you who are watching where you’ve made a decision for Jesus; you’ve said “Yes”, you’ve said, “Jesus, forgive me of my sin, be my Lord, my Savior”; but in your heart right now, even as Judy is speaking, and you’re listening to how she’s encounter God, and experienced God, there’s this hunger in your heart saying, “God, I really want to know You more; there must be more”. That’s the whole point of this this show, is we want to expose you to the “more” of God. I’ve got good news: I promise you, again, there’s no shame, there’s no guilt; there’s no, “Well you don’t know God as well as you should”; there’s only this call from Heaven, that’s I believe extending out to you right now, saying, “Come up here”; there “there is more”. And I’m not going to just bait you along and say, “There’s more of Me to experience, but you can’t have that while you’re living on Earth”; I can tell you, as a fact, that there’s more of God for you to experience here and now on Earth. And I believe the very reason that you’re hungry for more, is God birthed that hunger in you! Judy, would you mind just speaking to the audience right now? And would you pray, as we get ready for our next segment where we’re going to actually take people into this process into this process of what a Heavenly encounter looked like. Would you just pray for them, as they’re crying out, saying, “God, I want to know You more”?

Our Guest Ana Werner

DONNA: Hello, I’m Donna Chavis. Welcome to Something More. My guest today is the author of “Seeing Behind the Veil” and she has had some amazing supernatural encounters. We’re going to talk to her about a lot of them, but specifically, we’re going to just zero in a little bit on a topic that a lot of us are very interested in, and that is Heaven. Please welcome to Something More, Anna Werner. Hi, Ana!

ANA: Hey, Donna.

DONNA: It’s good to have you here.

ANA: Thanks for having me.

DONNA: Ana, my goodness, your story, you’ve been on with us a couple of times and so I just love it so much. But you started experiencing the supernatural at a very, very young age. What was your first experience?

ANA: Well, I was five years old and I was playing in my bedroom and an angel walked in my bedroom. And it wasn’t like—I wasn’t scared, actually. He felt like a warm friend. And he said to me his name was Timothy and that he was my guardian angel and he told me he would be with me throughout my whole life. And we actually played together for a while and I asked—I still remember, I asked him if I could touch his wing and He said, “Yes.” And it was—it wasn’t like my hand went through his wing or something. I mean, I really physically felt a—

DONNA: Like a tangible wing?

ANA: –like a wing! Like a tangible—and there was warmth and I remember—and we played for a while and then he said, “I’ll be with you throughout your life,” and then he said, “But I have to go now.” And then he was gone, just like that. And then I went out of my bedroom and I went and I told my mom everything. And she knew that, because of the way I described it, that it wasn’t, you know, something that I could make up. It wasn’t something I had seen on a Christmas card of, you, know, a flying angel, a baby angel or something. You know what I mean? It was a real angel. So that was my very first experience and I’ve seen Timothy throughout my life. He’s come at different times.

DONNA: You know, that is so important because we were talking before the program; I had an experience many years ago when my grandson was having surgery, and my daughter and I both saw an angel waiting for them to carry him down the hallway. And once he came out the door—they came out the door with my grandson, he just followed right behind them. We both saw this and so we were like, “Okay, that’s his guardian angel.” But you just said something, that he said, he told you, “I’m going to be with you all of your life.” And I think it’s interesting that most people think that once you grow up your guardian angel goes away. I mean why would he go away? I love that he told you that! So that’s an encouragement to us and we’ve told my grandson that before. We’ve said, you know, “You have this guardian angel and he’s going to be with you all of your life”. So—

ANA: That’s an amazing story.

Our Guest Hakeem Collins

HAKEEM COLLINS: I want to begin to talk about the power of the spoken word. I want to begin to give us an understanding of what the Bible talks about the power of the spoken word. The Bible says that there is life and death in the power of our tongue. We have to understand that within us we have the ability to change and to shape and to reshape things. A lot of things happen in our lives is because something’s maybe cause when we spoke. Sometimes you know when you’re speaking and sometimes when you’re angry things just come flying out and sometimes it’s hard to get it right back. You know you ever said some things that you didn’t really mean at the time or because you were upset it just came out? And I believe that we have to become stewards and become more conscious of what we speak because we can change things. We can alter things. The Bible allows us to understand if there is life and death in the power of the tongue then that means that we can speak life to a situation or we have the ability to speak death to a situation. I believe that we are in an hour where God is releasing the prophetic anointing and causing the prophetic power to be released through voices. I believe that it’s not for one individual, one person but God is raising up a prophetic people that will carry the Word of God in their mouths. Some of us sometimes don’t even like the way we sound. Some of us may not even like our own voice. Because one voice may be high-pitched. Some voices may be too deep. But God wants to use your unique voice.

AUDIENCE: Yes.

HAKEEM: God wants to use you and be the voice and be the vessel that can bring life to a dead situation. I’m reminded of Ezekiel when Ezekiel, in Ezekiel chapter 37, God sent him and took him up in vision in a place where there was dry and brittle and scattered bones. He took him in a vision and put him in a landscape where there were all these bones. Can you imagine God taking you in a vision and He takes you into a graveyard but there’s no, there’s no tombstones, there’s just bones that are broken and that are scattered. And God was showing Ezekiel this condition of the church or more so of Israel. He wanted to show them something so Ezekiel had to have the heart of God. He had to see the condition. And what God is saying in this hour is He going to show you the conditions of some things. Usually I always say your holy frustration or dissatisfaction is the greatest vehicle that God will use for your ministry! What frustrates you, what angers you, what makes you mad is the area that God is calling you to. Some of us may have even missed the call cause we’re just happy.

AUDIENCE: (LAUGHTER)

HAKEEM: But God is looking for somebody that can be a little angry, angry at what’s going on in the world.

AUDIENCE: Amen!

HAKEEM: Angry at what society is saying. While we’re waiting for society and government to change things but it can be in your mouth. The change that you’re looking for is in you!

AUDIENCE: Amen! (CLAPPING)

Our Guest Warren Marcus

SID: I’m wondering, there’s no medicine. There was no stores to go to. It was a barren desert. So having the name of God on the Jewish people under the old covenant resulted in those blessings, there wasn’t one feeble, one sick among them. How much greater having the presence of God after your sins have been atoned for? Now, the oldest fragment of scripture that we have in creation, 400 years older than the Dead Sea scrolls, is a scripture from the book of Numbers, chapter six, verse 24 to 26. When you started reading this, you know what happened to your friend in Israel. He just came undone, that he had an encounter with the living God. So Warren thinks, oh, I’m Jewish. He’s Gentile. I should have it even more. So what happened to you?

WARREN: Nothing.

SID: Nothing?

WARREN: Nothing. It was a beautiful prayer.

SID: what are you doing here, on my show?

WARREN: It’s a beautiful prayer, but it didn’t do anything for me. So I’m going, what is wrong with me? I remembered one thing. He said it was prayed over him in the Hebrew. So I said, maybe we’re missing something in the translation. Maybe the Hebrew has something there that we’re missing.

SID: You made a decision.

WARREN: Right.

SID: That there is something powerful on that scripture, but you didn’t know how to get that power out.

WARREN: Right.

SID: That’s what you’re talking about.

WARREN: Right. Because, the Hebrew has much more meaning to each word. Like the words bless you, keep you, all of these words are very abstract in the English. Bless, keep, shine my face upon you. What does that really mean? When you get into thee, it explodes, the many shades of meaning of the word Shalom. All of these have incredible meaning. And so as I started looking at this, the Hebrew contains the fullness of what the blessing is and what the word should say from God. But the English has only a portion.

SID: So, you get the revelation of the Hebrew, and then what?

WARREN: Well, as I started understanding this more and more, and as I started praying it over myself, there was an incredible thing that I started to experience. I really did start experiencing the glory, the same glory as a little boy, that I was in the clouds, in heaven. And I saw the glory, the Shekinah glory, I felt same thing, like in the Ten Commandments as a little boy that I sent, it was just this powerful thing that happened to me.

SID: And then you had an encounter with the face of God.

WARREN: Yes. As I started saying this prayer over myself, I was in between sleep and waking up. And all of a sudden, I sensed this face that was in front of me. I could see eyes. I could see mouth. All of a sudden, I felt the father. I said father. And it was like a breath came to me. And it says in Genesis that Yehovah God, it’s the father who knelt over Adam, who was clay, breathed into his nostrils. And when he breathed, Adam came to life. Oh, I felt this life come into me, this incredible thing. And I said, I don’t want to ever lose that sense of that. I don’t want to lose this. And I realized that it was the father. I could have a relationship with Yeshua. I could have an experiential supernatural relationship with the Holy Spirit. I can have a supernatural experiential relationship with the father. When you have access to the father, he gives you an impartation of himself. The word—