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Days of Elijah Celebration

Sid: It’s not an accident that right after we finished our Days of Elijah Celebration in St. Simons Island, Georgia, and for those that did not know about it we had an intercessors conference. We had close to 200 intercessors that came in and prayed 2 days on the same grounds where the conference was going to be. And literally we had heaven on earth.

But almost simultaneous to the conference I want to read you an account from the Boston Globe:

The rocks have been lifted all over Europe and the snakes of Jew hatred are slithering free.

In Belgium thugs beat up the Chief Rabbi kicking him in the face and calling him a dirty Jew. Two synagogues in Brussels were firebombed, a third was sprayed with automatic weapons fire.

In Britain, the cover of the New Statesman, a left wing magazine depicted a large star of David stabbing the Union Jack. Oxford Professor Tom Paulin, a noted poet, told an Egyptian interviewer that “American Jews who move to the West Bank in Gaza should be shot dead.” A Jewish Yeshiva student reading the Psalms was stabbed 27 times on a London bus. Anti-Semitism wrote a columnist in The Spectator “has become respectable at London dinner tables.” She quoted one member of the House of Lords quote “The Jews have been asking for it and now thank God we can say what we think at last.”

In Italy, the daily paper published a Page 1 cartoon: A tank emblazoned with a Jewish Star points it’s gun at the baby Jesus who pleads “Surely they don’t want to kill me again.”

In Germany, a rabbinical student was beaten up in downtown Berlin and a grenade was thrown into a Jewish cemetery. Thousands of neo-Nazis held a rally marching near a synagogue on a Jewish Sabbath. Graffiti appeared on a synagogue in a western town of Herford “Six million were not enough.”

In Ukraine skinheads attack Jewish worshippers and smashed the windows of Kiev synagogue. Ukrainian police denied the attack was anti-Jewish.

In Greece, Jewish graves were desecrated in Ioannina and vandals hurled paint in the Holocaust memorial in Salonica.

In Holland, an anti-Israel demonstration featured swastikas, photos of Hitler and chants of “Sieg Heil” and “Jews into the sea.”

But nowhere has the flames of anti-Semitism burn more ferociously than in France. In Lyon, a car was rammed into a synagogue and set on fire.In Montpellier, the Jewish center was firebombed; so were synagogues in Strasbourg and Marseille. So was a Jewish School in Creteil. A Jewish sports club in Toulouse was attacked with Molotov cocktails.

In Bondy 15 men beat-up members of a Jewish football team with sticks and metal bars. The bus that takes Jewish children to school had been attacked 3 times in the last 14 months. According to the police metropolitan Paris has seen 10 to 12 anti-Jewish incidents per day since Easter. Walls in Jewish neighborhoods have been defaced with slogans proclaiming “Jews to the gas chambers” and “Death to the Jews.”

I mean it goes on and on. It seems to me that a lot of people think the holocaust was ancient history, but you can go back all through history and see this Jew hatred. Even today I’m reading to you these are current events going on worldwide. Why is the Jew so hated? It’s because the church has yet to understand what the devil understands. That when the Jewish people are grafted back into the Body the full Body of Messiah Jew and Gentile become that One New Man and new life.

Let me put it this way, in Amos the 9th chapter it talks about restoring or raising up the tabernacle of David. But the word tabernacle in the Hebrew could also be translated family of David. And so what Amos is saying in the ninth chapter the 11th verse is “When the Tabernacle, or the family of David, or the Jewish people, is restored it says the rest of the Gentiles who are called by my name will come in.” It goes on to say that “When the family of David is restored a great revival will occur among the Gentiles,” and it says according to what I read here in the 13th verse the greatest revival in history. It says “Behold the days are coming says the Lord when the plowman shall overtake the reaper and the treader of grapes and him who sows seeds.” In other words the fruit will grow so fast it can’t even be harvested and that’s what we’re about ready to have.

But let me explain the principal on how this works, why Amos says “When the family of David is restored to the Body of Messiah it’s sort of like Genesis 12:3 God says “I’ll bless those who bless the Jewish people and I’ll curse those who curse them.” Well this principal is true throughout all of scripture and it’s found with the Ark of the Covenant. Wherever the Ark of the Covenant went, which represents the Jewish people, based on our attitude towards of the Ark of the Covenant was tremendous blessings or tremendous coursings. For instance in 1st Samuel the 5th verse it says that the Philistines captured the Ark of the Covenant. What happened? For 7 months they had the worst tumors and sores until they got rid of it.

Then in 2nd Samuel the 6th chapter the 11th verse we find out that the Ark of the Covenant rested at the home of Obed Edom. And what happened? His entire house was blessed, so based on your attitude to the Jewish people, and this was what Paul was talking about in the 11th chapter of Romans he said “If it was a blessing the Jewish people rejected their Messiah how much greater blessing when they receive their Messiah it will literally cause life from the dead.”

So this is why we had our Days of Elijah Conference which comes from Malachi the 3rd chapter. And Malachi says…well let us pick up in the 4th chapter the 5th verse, “Behold I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and the dreadful day of the Lord.” Now what is Elijah going to do? Well we know Elijah was a man who took on the prophets of Baal, took on the false gods and we know that John the Baptist had the Spirit of Elijah on him and what did he do? Nothing more than call Israel to repent so that there could be a great revival with the coming of the Lord.

So what is the spirit of Elijah that will come on the church in the last days going to do? The 6th verse tells us “He will turn the hearts of the Fathers to the children and the hearts of the children to their fathers.” Interesting doesn’t say mothers it says fathers.

According to the 9th chapter the 1st verse of the book of Romans Paul says “The Fathers are Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.” So what is Malachi saying? Of course he’s talking about a restoration of fathers and children in the literal, but he’s also talking about that great same spiritual principal that Paul talks about when the hearts of the fathers, the Jewish people are knit and returned to hearts of the children if the fathers are the Jewish people the children then are the Christians. So the hearts of the Christians it says if this doesn’t happen they’ll be a great curse. But guess what, if it does happen they’ll be a great blessing.

I wish you had been there at that conference The Days of Elijah because there was the most magnificent dancing and processional and we had literally a replica of the Western Wall and the Holy of Holies.

One 17 year old girl wrote in that attended the conference and she said “I saw 2 rows of angels; one was sitting on the edges of the tent meeting, the other row was behind them and they were dancing and singing while we were praising. Then she goes on to say “I saw an angels in the congregation one very large angel standing behind the worship leader the angel was large enough to have his hands over the worship leaders head; when we started singing the song it was like heaven paused to listen as all of the angels in the room stopped in the middle of what they were doing and stood awestruck as they listened.”

Now I could go…she just saw so many things going on in the angelic in the invisible realm. I wish I had seen this all; I’ll tell you what I sat under such an outpouring of God’s Spirit. Those that were there had reports of “I had no great heart for the Jewish people and Israel but after seeing this I understand why it’s so important to God for Jews and Gentiles to become One New Man in Jesus. It’s so important for Christians to stand up for the Jew in Israel.”

Our Guests Rick and Lori Taylor

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Sid: We want everyone to know that there’s an epidemic. Yes there really is, there’s an epidemic of people being healed of cancer that’s my kind of epidemic. And I’ve got on the telephone the head of the healing rooms of Santa Maria Valley, California. And Rick Taylor I guess if someone had talked to you a few years ago and said that “The doctors would be sending patients to you; the doctors themselves would be coming for physical healing; that you would have 100 believers from different denominations all come together in unity and there would be an outpouring of the Spirit to such a point that not just gold dust but gold nuggets appear, and angels are being seen almost weekly that people have visions of Jesus when they walk in that place.” If someone had said that to you a few years ago what would you have said?

Rick: Well I would have had a hard time believing that it would have come through out ministry. But we’re just so excited that is happening and it’s…those prophecies are coming true today.

Sid: I have to ask you my favorite story from looking over the notes about that little girl that had all of those cavities. Tell me about her.

Rick: Yes there was a girl 14 years old who just got her braces taken off and the orthodontist discovered just by looking in her mouth she had quite a few cavities. So what they did is they x-rayed the teeth and sure enough they found 13 cavities. Now you know the parents didn’t have insurance and the little girl was really in a lot of trauma because of this procedure that was about to take place. So they set a date to begin the procedure. But mean while this girl told her mom, she said “You know I heard that there’s a place in Santa Maria called the Healing Rooms and they’re seeing miracles. Take me there and maybe God will heal my cavities.” And sure enough the mom took her in to see us and as the team was praying for this girl she felt a sensation happening in her teeth. And the very next day she went to the dentist, the dentist looks into her mouth and he was in shocked he no longer sees the cavities. Well he does another x-ray and he thought there was something wrong with his x-ray machine so he sent her to another dentist. Now the next dentist x-rays her and she brings the x-rays back to the original dentist and he’s holding up these ex-rays and he’s shaking his head and he looks at her and said “What did you do?” And this little girl just said “You know what I went to the healing rooms and they began to pray for me and I felt this strange sensation happening in my teeth. And now this little girl is healed, actually she had 13 cavities; God healed 11 of her cavities. Now I don’t know why the Lord did heal all 13 but that’s pretty amazing.

Sid: Now how could this dentist does he think maybe the x-rays were wrong?

Rick: He thought originally he thought there was something wrong with the x-rays but the second set of x-rays proved that it was truly a miracle that took place. And that’s all he can say this is a miracle.

Sid: I love it when dentist say that. Let me take you back to the beginning when you were a young child you had Godly grandparents that were actually part of a famous ministry on the west coast Amy Semple McPherson. And even most of us have heard they actually saw Smith Wigglesworth minister. As a young child they used to tell you stories of what they had seen what impact did this have on you?

Rick: It had an amazing impact. I remember as a child just a young child I would go to my grandmother’s house and I’d say “Grandma tell me the stories of the miracles.” And she would tell me over and over of the people who walked in who were blind and after prayer they received their sight. Those that could not hear were hearing, people in wheelchairs she witnessed and saw people get out of wheelchairs. She was telling me one time an ambulance pulled up to the Evangelist Temple and they brought a guy out on a stretcher who was not expected to live. And immediately he rose up and I never got tired of those stories. And the problem with church was we never saw that in church and so as a young man I really began to get bored with church because I didn’t see the power that was in the Bible and the power that was my grandmother saw. And I knew that church has to change, we need to get the power back in the church once again to let the world know that Jesus is alive.

Sid: And what’s the Spirit of God telling you? Are we in this generation going to see the power that most of us just read about in the Bible that does not happen in the average church? And yet when I read the history of the first church the least Christian walked in the supernatural power of God to such a supernatural point that if they would have been Catholic the Catholic Church would have called them a saint.

Rick: Yes, well not only are we going to see it Sid but we are seeing it. But wonderful thing about the healing room here is there’s not a superstar among us. We’re a group of about 100 people from 32 different denominations. The Lord said to raise up to train the ordinary Christians, we just ordinary Christians and we believe that Jesus is who He says He is and He’ll do what He says He’ll do.

Sid: Well you know what there are a number of other places some connected with your organization some not that are called healing rooms and they’re having some miracles but nothing like what’s going on at your place.

Rick: Well I can’t explain it I know there’s been a lot of prophetic words over our geographical area over Santa Maria. We’ve dug a well we spent a lot of time a few weeks in intercession digging that healing well. We have a lot of people that come to us with great expectation and I really believe that expectation is that key that unlocks the heavens.

Sid: When I hear that word what I think about is someone I had a chance to meet personally Kathryn Kuhlman. And when people would come in buses to her miracle services many would get healed on the bus, many standing in the long lines would get healed even before they got into the meeting and I think the word, the key operative word is expectancy.

Rick: That’s right I got to be in one of her meetings one time also and the very first word the first sentence she said when she came out on the stage was “I Believe in Miracles.” And as she said that…

Sid: You know you came as a skeptic didn’t you.

Rick: Well yeah you know when I was a little boy a young man I was a Christian but I got away I was disillusioned with the church because I didn’t see the power I got bored. I still had those inside me all of those stories my grandmother spoke to me and so I went just because I wanted to see even though I wasn’t a Christian at the time I wanted to see the power of God manifested.

Sid: You know non-believers want to see miracles now they think they’re fake but in their somewhere deep within they’re hoping they’re not fake.

Rick: Well I’ll tell you when Kathryn Kuhlman came out on the stage and she said “I believe in miracles” you can feel the atmosphere change and expectancy just came into the room and all over the room people were getting healed there was miracles happening without her laying on hands or praying for anyone. It’s because doubt and unbelief left the room and expectancy filled the place and Jesus just began to heal people.

Sid: So how much doubt and unbelief do you have in the atmosphere in your healing rooms?

Rick: Hopefully we have absolutely zero; we believe that God will heal every person that comes in.

Sid: 1996 you and your wife started have strange visitations. As a matter of fact, I wonder if you will put Lori on right now your wife and I’d like to ask her about this. I have on the telephone none Lori Taylor.

Lori: Hello.

Sid: Hi Lori would you tell our audience what you told me earlier about in 1996 when an angel came into your bedroom.

Lori: Okay, one night Rick and I had just gone to bed and just he was asleep and I was just falling asleep and all of a sudden our room just lit up. And we live out in the country and there’s no streetlights or anything so our room was pretty pitch dark. And it lit up and I opened my eyes and I looked and at the foot of our bed there was a large angel and he was kneeling. He looked at me and it startled me because I wasn’t expecting anyone in our room so I screamed and then Rick sat up and said “What’s the matter.” And I said “There’s a man in our room.”

Sid: (Laughing)

Lori: And he was kind of startled too but later as I thought back on it I’m not exactly sure why the Lord allowed me to see him or why he was there.

Sid: Did Rick see him?

Lori: No, Rick did not see him.

Sid: What did he look like?

Lori: He was just beautiful he had skin unlike a human skin it was just flawless clear and smooth and he had really pretty blue eyes. He had kind of sandy blonde wavy hair about to his shoulders. And when I looked at him he was smiling and he was looking at me and I just…and I looked into his face and I just felt just indescribable love and I knew it was an angel of the Lord and it was just a wonderful thing to see him.

Sid: Well put Rick back on the phone I want to see what he thought when his wife Lori hears that says there’s a man in the room. Rick what did you think?

Rick: What did I think about the light?

Sid: The light and the man?

Rick: Well the thing is you know when you’re asleep you’re not sure what’s happening but I saw the room just lit up and this is really strange. When Lori screamed you know something is happening here. And then she told me she saw a man and so we’re actually turning lights on and I can’t find the man anywhere. And so we were just awake with our hearts pounding. And so we just didn’t know “What was this?” That was just the beginning of series of visitations.

Sid: What happened next?

Rick: Well what happened next was it was a few nights later all of a sudden I was awoken and I looked at the right hand top corner of our room towards our ceiling and I saw a lion. Sid it was like it was a zoo it wasn’t a vision it was a real lion. Now this lion had eyes that were like penetrating my very soul. And I knew this lion knew everything about me and it was just staring at me. And then all of a sudden this lion began running at me and it just scared me to death I almost like I pulled the covers over me but it ran right through me and out the back wall of our room. And it was the weirdest thing I don’t know if I slept the rest of the night it was such an amazing thing…

Sid: Oh we’re out of time.

Our Guest Gary Whetstone

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Sid: Boy is my guest red hot for the Messiah his name is Gary Whetstone Senior Pastor at Victory Christian Fellowship in Wilmington Delaware. He found himself having a gigantic evangelistic crusade in Nairobi Kenya. Gets a knock at the door and they say “We don’t think you should do this crusade because there’s 1000 armed men dedicated to kill you to prove that Jesus didn’t rise from the dead the only way they would believe Jesus rose from the dead is if they kill you and you rise from the dead. Now we only have a couple of policeman to protect you it’s impossible they’ve already beaten up guards and they’ve wrecked your car and we recommend you not go. So Gary what did you say?

Gary: Well I just said to my front man the one that was coordinating the crusade I said “I want you to leave me alone for a few moments” and I went to prayer. And I said “God is this the way I die, do you want me to go?” And the Spirit of God spoke to me “I called you here to preach not run.” So I went back to the door and I said “I’m going prepare another car.” Now I had a team of American’s with me and I met with them and I said to them “Everyone of you are free to stay in the hotel I don’t know expect any of you to go with me because this is the reality.” Well half of them did stay back the other half went with me and we came in through the back of this huge field area down like a stream bed on a four wheel drive vehicle came up behind the platform and saw encircling the entire platform area literally 100’s and 100’s of men with rifles and with pistols standing there. The platform had been burned with fire they had poured gasoline on it. There was a goat head cut off and shoved on the top of one the microphone stands. They had made an animal sacrifice on our platform. There were no band, no choir, no churches, not Christians anywhere that I could see and there was beginning to grow 1000’s of people behind this people with guns. And my interpreter came with me in the car and I said “This is it we have come here to preach.”

Sid: You know Gary I mean you knew God’s voice I mean God’s saved your life from a mental institution but you’re human didn’t the thought cross your mind “Maybe I misunderstood God, maybe that was the devil telling me this.” I mean you’re in a critical situation.

Gary: You know Sid when you know that the God that is in you is greater than fear and any god that is called a god in this world. And you know how to defeat the fear you can cripple that thing and break its power so when you stand up you have literally ruling authority over that fear of death that grips so many people.

Sid: Wonderful you have ruling authority over that spirit of fear but what about the 1000 men with rifles that are ready to shoot you?

Gary: Well I guess it comes down to one or two things either I heard from God or I didn’t.

Sid: Obviously you did I’m talking to you right now (Laughing).

Gary: (Laughing) Yeah because when the interpreter and I got up on that platform and looked out I looked at my interpreter and said “Are you ready to go?” He looked at me and said “I don’t know.” I pray and out of my mouth came this decree “No man called by God will die by an assassins bullet tonight pull the trigger if you can.” So I look at my interpreter and he’s silent.

Sid: Are you sure this isn’t 29th chapter of the book of Acts? (Laughing)

Gary: I’m telling you this made a country change this confrontation with the enemy.

Sid: You present this challenge is that what stuck what happens?

Gary: Well my interpret it he said “No!” I said “Why?” He said “They are not that good of a shot if I stand here they’re going to shoot me too.”

Sid: (Laughing)

Gary: So we’re arguing on the platform in front of all of these people they speak Swahili most of them had no idea what I said. So I said to my interpreter “Get on that side of the platform and as soon as you interpret it jump and get on the ground and hide and I’ll stand here and see God and see what He does.” He looked at me and said “Are you serious?” I said “I’m serious enough to stand here I’ll do it again.” And he said “Alright.” So I walked to my side of the platform, he walked to his and I said it again. “Tonight no man called by God will die by an assassins bullet pull the trigger if you can.” And here comes the Swahili translation he jumps off the platform there is a shockwave in the atmosphere and you see these men breaking and crying and sobbing many of them probably 200 running to the front to me having dropped their arms back 10 yards, 20 yard, 50 yards. Other man gathering up their guns and running this way and running that way and literally they just came by the 100’s and 100’s and repented and received Jesus. That a rat moa in the morning found out what happened and this cult had been sacrificing children to their demon gods in the villages round in Kenya. And a rat moa made a decree that this cult that this cult that existing then was to be absolutely outlawed and any members are to be in prison. The members that did not repent and believe and receive Jesus were put in prison and today that cult is gone it does not exist. That God that lives inside of every believer Yeshua the Living Jesus His presence and power can change a nation.

Sid: What happened in Nairobi as a result of that campaign?

Gary: It literally blew the city open. Do you know today in the same field one of the ladies that we trained in our Bible school holds a prayer meeting once a month with over a quarter million people every once a month in prayer.

Sid: And just think you almost missed that meeting, you almost went home.

Gary: That’s right short of a word from God.

Sid: Now listen if there’s ever been a man that understands real fear, I mean absolutely paralyzing fear. If there’s ever been a man that has compassion for people with fear it’s got to be you. What kind of feed back because it’s a new book but what kind of feedback are you getting on your brand new book “Make Fear Bow” that’s a directive you’re not saying compromise you’re saying “Make Fear Bow.” You don’t bow you make fear bow.

Gary: The stories Sid have come from every walk of life. We have stories of people who afraid to work at a promotion because they were of a different race then of those that are believing that there was a predetermined prejudice in their workplace and they broke the fear of identifying with that prejudice. Because it was a fear and it wasn’t a reality and they got the promotion. We’ve had testimonies of woman who were afraid to conceive because of the pain and they read the scriptures and prayed the prayers and have normal children now. And just the joy of seeing the families free but we have a couple testimonies that are absolutely incredible that one individual and this is a response of this who in her vocation she was a real estate sales person. She was not making any money at all she read the book “Make Fear Bow” and there was a thought in the back of her mind that was sown there from a child that said to her “You will never amount to anything, you will not graduate from college” and she didn’t “You will not succeed in business” and she wasn’t “You will be nothing in your life.” And that’s how she grew up; then she got a hold of the word that literally gave her a perspective she does not need to live under the gripe of those words. You know when David went into combat with Goliath what Goliath used was a terror decree that by his gods he will take the flesh of David and see him just killed. And what did David do? He said “Oh the birds of the air will eat your flesh” so there’s a fear confrontation here. And this woman broke that thing and just last year her earnings, personal earnings exceeded $200,000.

Sid: Speaking about breakthroughs because fear that paralyzes you stops the vision of God from operating in your life.

Gary: Absolutely.

Sid: I mean you’ve got endorsements in this book from some really amazing people, incredible endorsements by Bishop T.D. Jakes, Marilyn Hickey, Morris Cerello, Billy Joe Daugherty, Charles Blair. I mean this is probably one of the most significant books for the time that we’re living in right now. But I’ll tell you what my burden is there are people that are listening to us right now Gary that have God calls on their life but because of various degrees of fear they have not been able to have their breakthrough. Will this give them their breakthrough if they apply the principals and receive the anointing in your book?

Gary: Sid the word of God cannot be broken fear is literally a lie of the enemy and the dream of God that is locked up in the heart of every one of our listeners is the purpose of God. By reading this book they will identify the origin of the fear, the influence of the fear, the forecast of the fear because the fear gives you a picture of your future and they will get the answer to how to make it bow. Their lives will activate that dream and bring it into reality and take them out of the torment of fear that’s gripped them.

Sid: You know on tomorrows broadcast I want you to cover how fear is really rooted in 4 major factors which you talk about in detail in your book.

Our Guest Dr. John Miller

Sid: This is your week to experience healing. I have on the telephone Dr. John Miller he’s a Chiropractor from Tampa, Florida he has spent the last 20 years studying communion. And he’s convinced and I’m convinced that because we haven’t had proper teaching on communion many are sick and even dead among us as scripture has to say. Now John on yesterday’s broadcast we were talking about a strange symbol in the Old Covenant people that were bitten by snakes that were dying would look at a bronze serpent on a pole and stare at that pole and everyone that looked at it was healed. Would you continue?

John: Yes it’s because when Jesus took our sins in Him He became polluted with our sin. The scriptures say in 2nd Corinthians that He actually became sin He knew no sin but He became sin. And I began to talk about how the two elements of communion, one had fermentations or sin in it and the other didn’t. The bread has no fermentation because it represents the body of Christ His body never partook of sin it never committed a sin. So the bread of communion is without fermentation which represents sin, but the wine we know was fermented because Paul said they were coming to table and drinking so much that they were getting drunk. Now why did God allow the wine to be fermented? It’s because Leviticus 11:17 says “For the life of the flesh is in the blood and I give it to you for an atonement for your soul.” So the life that’s in your body is in your blood. Now James 2:26 says “For as the body without the spirit is dead so faith without works is dead.” That tells us that the Spirit is what gives life to your body. When Ananias and Sapphira lied to Peter about how much they paid for their property God took their body. There was nothing wrong physically with them but they dropped dead because their spirit was gone. Now sin is an issue of the spirit, if the life of the flesh is in the blood we know that the life of the flesh is the spirit, so the spirit is in the blood. When Jesus took our sin in Him it spoiled His blood with our sin. Now we can proved this with typology also; on the day of atonement the lamb was brought to the priest and the family’s head laid his hands on the head of the lamb imputing his sins and his family’s sins into that lamb. Then the priest took the lamb, took the blood and took some of the blood and put it on the mercy seat. Well that was tainted blood, the blood in that lamb now was tainted with that Hebrew family’s sin. So we have the picture of Jesus taking our sin in Him and spoiling His blood because the Spirit is in the blood. The Spirit gives life that’s why God did all blood covenants all life matters with blood covenants. So when we take communion it’s representing the fact that Jesus took our sin. I personally use wine, I use the Manischewitz wine…

Sid: But if somebody doesn’t use wine it doesn’t diminish the value does it?

John: Not as long as they understand what they’re doing. I’ve used on occasions water and crackers when I didn’t have the elements of communion because this is only an element to put you in memory of what Jesus did for you both spiritually and physically. So anything that we can use as a contact point will bring about the desired effect. I like the wine because the sweetness of the wine reminds me of the sweetness of redemption, but the bitterness of the alcohol reminds me of the bitterness He went through for me when He took my sin at Calvary.

Sid: You know one of the amazing things is that not only are you telling me people are being healed that start really doing communion daily and understanding as you put it in remembrance of what the Messiah did for us really understanding it. People are taking communion for others, tell me quickly about that Pastor’s wife and the healing she had when her husband took communion for her.

John: In 1st Corinthians 11:33 it says “When you come together to eat tarry yea one for another.” So that means we can take communion for someone else. Remember Job offered sacrifices daily for his children. Now I have a friend that’s a wonderful evangelist that started taking communion every day when I taught it in his church and he had done it for years. He would take communion for his wife his wife didn’t take communion daily; she ended up with cancer of the breast and they operated and took the lumps out. She got the lumps again and they operated, she got the lumps again and they scheduled her for surgery and he told his wife “I take communion for you every day, but I’m going to have to have you start taking communion for yourself.” And by the time she went to surgery the lumps were gone so there’s a case that she needed to do it. God first point this out to me when I was going to a church to teach on communion and the pastor there had gone completely blind in one eye and almost blind in the other eye. He’s a man that travels with Morris Cerullo for 6 or 8 years and had a tremendous healing ministry himself. And on the way to that church God brought out that verse in scripture “When you come together to eat tarry you one for another.” And God spoke to me and said “Nicky has the gift of healing when he is in that church he keeps everybody healed with that gift now when you have communion tonight I want you to put him in the middle and have the elders get around him and place their right hand on his head; when they eat the bread of communion he will be healed.” And so we did that and there wasn’t an instant manifestation that very second but within 2 minutes there was. He began to pray for people and all of the sudden he screamed and he came up on the stage and he picked me up in a bear hug and he picked up a song book and he covered the eye that he could see a little bit out of. And he said “Point to any line I can read it.” His eyes were totally healed in that communion service and that’s the first time that I ever saw in scripture that said “Tarry yea one for another.” I have a list of ministers that I take communion for on a daily basis.

Sid: Now let me ask you a question because Passover is coming up and it says in Exodus the 12th chapter a lamb for a house what about taking communion as a point of contact for the salvation of our entire house since under the Old Covenant type it was a lamb for an entire house?

John: Communion should be taken to do any spiritual warfare and what you’ve talking about actually is spiritual warfare. Everybody that’s not born again is of their father the devil; they have to be born again to get put into the family of God. Now satan is the god of this world. See we sent Missionaries over to Africa and we send them clothing and food and they get so many people saved and they’re in their life hut but we know that there’s princes of Persian, Princes of Greece, Princes of Tarsus their demonic heads over all of the nations and if you’re not born again then you belong to that side of the family that spiritual family. And so getting someone saved really would be a matter of binding and losing, binding those spirits that control those people and losing those people in the name of Jesus to receive the gospel of Jesus Christ. And there’s no better time to do your spiritual warfare than after you take communion.

Sid: Tell me about the race car driver that lost his peripheral vision.

John: I had a friend who was a very famous guy he was voted race car driver of the decades, 2 decades in a row his name was Jan Oppermann. He crashed on the Sacramento mile in a Sprint car in California and lost the peripheral visions in his right eye. And in my living room at 2:00 in the morning I explained the communion message and I had a large loaf of bread and we took a big chunk of it because I like to take more bread than normally they give because I like to meditate on different parts of the body and different things that need healing. And as we took communion at 2:00 in the morning in my living room his eye was completely head. Now people will say “How can you do that not in a church and nothing having a preacher?” Certain denominations you have to be an ordained minister you can’t even be a licensed minister of that denomination to give out communion. And in 1 Peter 2:9 says “But we are a chosen generation a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a peculiar people praises of Him who has called you out of darkness into his marvelous light. Now anyone that has been called out of darkness into His light in others words if you’ve been saved the Bible says that “You’re a chosen generation, you have been made a royal priesthood.” Now being a royal priesthood by God is greater credentials than being an ordained minister by any denomination.

Sid: Whoop we’re out of time.

Our Guest John Bevere

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SID: John teaches on a word that I read in the Bible. But I think many people don’t understand the word, “communion,” communion with the Holy Spirit. What does that mean to you?

JOHN: Well you know, Paul said that to the Corinthian church, and interestingly, it’s the last thing he wrote to them on the face of the earth. He said, “May the communion of the Holy Spirit be with you.” Now as a former Catholic boy, you say “communion” to me, I think the little wafer the priest puts on people’s tongue and the wine I snuck as an altar boy at the end of the service. Communion is koinonia. Okay. It’s a Greek word that has three major definitions. Number one, would be fellowship. Number two, would be partnership. Number three, would be intimacy. So what he’s saying is “May the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you.” If you look at the apostles in the Book of Acts, they had great fellowship with the Holy Spirit. So what does fellowship mean? It means companionship, sharing together. If you look at the Apostle Paul he talks about the Holy Spirit speaking to him in city after city in Acts, chapter 20.

SID: You what I’m thinking, now when I hear the word “companionship”, do you have dialogue with the Holy Spirit often?

JOHN: Yes. Because you know, the Bible says, “Pray without ceasing” and prayer is not a one-way conversation. Prayer is a dialogue, not a monologue. So if God tells us to pray without ceasing, that means He’s willing to communicate with us without ceasing. Now don’t always look for words. Okay. I mean, my wife can give me one look and I can write three pages on what she just said.

SID: Me, too.

JOHN: But now 30 years ago, if my wife gave me that one look, I’d go, huh? And the whole room, awkward. Right? So the thing is in order to have intimacy with Him, and I’m jumping to intimacy now, because intimacy goes to the desires, the intentions, the thoughts of the heart, we have to know the one we want to have intimacy with. You know, I look at these guys in the early church and what I started seeing, and this all started on a fast last year. God spoke to me and said, “I want you to read the Book of Acts, and I started reading it. And realized what was normal for the church back then is not normal for us today, because they completely depended on the Holy Spirit. He was a vital part of it all their life. He was literally with them and partnered with them in everything they did. If you look at the apostles, they wrote a letter and they said, “It seemed good to us and the Holy Spirit.” They’re actually representing His view and their view. But what I love about that is they’re so intimate with Him. They said, “It seemed good.” They didn’t say, “The Holy Spirit said and so do we.” You understand that they were so intimate with Him that God allowed them to represent Him without Him speaking. Now that seems odd right now, but it’s not. Last year my wife and I are doing a national conference in Canada. Right? I speak the first night, she speaks the second night. The soundman comes around. He’s got [??] ear mic. Right? My wife’s in worship, her hands are up, tears are coming down. I stop the soundman. I said, “No, no, no, no, she doesn’t want that. She wants a wireless hand mic.” He went back and got the wireless. I was able to represent Lisa without her saying what she wanted because I know her so well. So this is the thing people have to understand. You and I could be together for a year. Depending on how we interact will determine how close we become. We could be perfect strangers after a year. I can tell you husbands and wives that are complete strangers, and they had been married for 30 years. Why? Because they don’t interact and intimately go to those levels. So I know Christians that the Holy Spirit has been with them for years, yet they really don’t know Jesus that well, because he’s the one that reveals them. If you look at the Apostle Paul, he never walked with Jesus. Right?

SID: Right.

JOHN: Okay. So how many times you and I, and your people say, “Oh man, I wish I could have walked with Jesus on the shores of Galilee.” I don’t think they’d have any different of a life. And to be honest with you, I think they wouldn’t even be as close because Jesus said, “There are things about me I can’t tell you. Only the Holy Spirit can tell you.” So here’s Paul. He never once walked with Jesus. Never, not once. Right? And he comes to know Jesus so intimately that Peter, who walked with him for three and a half years finally writes and says, “This guy Paul knows Jesus so well, some of his letters are hard for me to understand.” So now why is that? Because the Holy Spirit can bring us to realms that Jesus couldn’t even do himself personally, here, because he communicates to our spirit. Our spirit has the capacity of housing so much more of the presence and knowledge of God. However, so many people want to know God in their minds. So you know, my greatest, greatest adventures in life are when I’m in interacting with Him, but it’s a level that’s deeper than just the soul. Now don’t get me wrong. The soul comes with it, but it’s deep.

SID: Now just tell me about a time you were interacting with the Holy Spirit in Malaysia, briefly.

JOHN: I’m doing a national conference. I believe it was the largest Bible school. People were there. It was a tent meeting. And I remember they had the women up front. And all of a sudden, all of the women said they were called to the ministry. Malaysia is a Muslim state. All of a sudden, the Spirit of our Father came in, the Spirit of God in the most loving way. And these women started laughing hysterically and they all collapsed all over the floor. Nobody caught them. Nobody touched them. And they were on the ground literally laughing hysterically. And so—

SID: No one is touching them.

JOHN: No one touched them.

SID: They fall over.

JOHN: Every one of them had fallen them. Nobody caught them and they were now laughing hysterically. Right? So I just sit down on the platform because I’m out of this. Right? So I’m enjoying this and I’m literally seeing these Asian women, because they’re very quiet and reserved, on their backs rolling back and forth with their hands on their guts, laughing hysterically. And I go, that must be where holy rollers came from. I’m just a Catholic boy that got saved. Okay. So I’m just like, wow. Well then all of a sudden this loving presence lifts and an awesome presence comes in, and the most wonderfully terrifying, if this makes any sense. Okay. And I remember when this presence came in, I thought, oh my goodness, something has changed. And all of a sudden all these women, at the same time, without even saying a thing, stop laughing. And within seconds, they started screaming like they were on fire. Now it wasn’t demonic. They were like on fire. Right? So I’m walking back and forth on the platform and I’m going oh my God. And that’s when I thought there’s a difference between our soul and our spirit. Because my head was going, I can’t handle this, and my heart was going, God, please don’t lift, please don’t lift. It was amazing. Okay. I remember I’m walking back and forth and I thought, you say one wrong word, you’re dead. Now I’m not saying necessarily it might have happened. But Ananias made a wrong move in that environment, and that’s New Testament. That presence, it was like Daddy didn’t come in. Daddy was in there before. The King came in. And I remember out of my mouth came these words: “This is the Holy Spirit of the fear of the Lord.” That’s what came out of my mouth. And all of a sudden I thought, that’s it. Isaiah said, “The Spirit of the Lord will rest upon the Jesus.” The spirit was the counsel, knowledge, might, understanding—and the spirit of the fear of the Lord delights in the fear of the Lord. Remember, after the meeting, this Indian couple, they were from India, they were students in the Bible school. She was one of the ladies who was getting nailed. She looks at me and she goes, “I feel so clean inside.” And the husband goes, “I do, too.” And I said, “I do, too.” Well the next morning I’m in my hotel room and the Holy Spirit says, “Read Psalm 19.” I had no idea what I’m going to read, Sid. I know you probably know, but I didn’t. And I read to verse 9, and verse 9 says, “The fear of the Lord is clean, enduring forever.” And God spoke to me and He said, “Lucifer led worship at My throne. He didn’t fear Me. He didn’t endure forever.”

SID: You know, that’s a hidden word, “the fear of the Lord’. I want to find out about this. It is hidden from modern day Christianity. We’ll be right back.

Our Guest Dr. Reggie Anderson

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Sid: Have you ever been concerned about death? Have you ever been worried about what’s it going to be like? Is there going to be pain involved? Will I enjoy this place called heaven? What about all of my loved ones? You’ve got so many questions about heaven you probably haven’t even processed it. You haven’t even thought much about it; but I have a guest who has been there. And he’s not only been there he’s very credible. He award winning medical doctor; he is Chief of Staff at the Tri-State Ashland City Medical Center in Tennessee. He’s been in family practice in an Emergency Room for over 25 years. So Dr. Reggie Anderson is in medical school and he’s become an atheist and medical school just pushed him over even further if that’s possible. Because his God is facts and not the God of the Bible. There was a horrible tragedy in his life; people that he considered like uncles and close relatives. There were actually distant relatives he spent so much time with. Were involved in one of the worst mass murders in the history of the State of Georgia, and he cried out to God “Why?” And he walked away, he blamed God. He became an atheist; but then in medical school their examining a dead body and this is in Anatomy Class, and he looks at it and Reggie as you said in your book “You looked at this woman and you said “She’s a work of art.” What did you mean by that?

Dr. Anderson: Well exactly what I said “It could not have happened by accident.” The whole idea of evolution and random things coming together to make the human being was not possible. I mean it broke way to many physical laws to get to that point. I mean she was beautiful and even though she… her spirit was no longer there. Her soul had already been taken but there her body was that was left behind for us to examine and to learn as medical students. I had no other explanation than a creative force had made this being in front of me.

Sid: So God’s working on that area of your life and then you fall in love; you’re smitten a girl by the name of Karen, but there’s a problem this Karen is sold out to Jesus. She quickly finds out that you’re not; sure she wants you to be saved but then you overhear her speaking to some of her girlfriends and she’s talking about you and she saying “Pray for Reggie because he’s an atheist and he’s a kind of like a stalker.” So did you kind of just dismiss Karen when you heard that?

Dr. Anderson: You know as a medical student I really had plenty of dates, but this was really the first woman or the first person that had challenged my life journey as an atheist.    

Sid: Beyond the fact that you were smitten with her was she making any sense at that point in our life with her apologetic and her arguments?

Dr. Anderson: You know it was starting to I guess bother me as an atheist you know, I just spent time in the cadaver lab and had kind of come to a point that okay, maybe there is a God out there, but I didn’t have a personal relationship. And that was really where she was challenging me. You know I actually told her I said you know she said one of the reasons she wouldn’t date me is because I was not a Christian. And the only thing I could respond to her was that well my parents are.

Sid: That’s close; that’s in the family. (Laughing) Okay, I’m going to fast forward you now because there’s so many exciting things I mean he has prayed for so many people as they were passing from this life to the next. When you find out the experiences that he had totally demystify this thing called death or going to heaven. But July 4, 1980 it was an historic date in your life; it changed everything, everything about your life Dr. Anderson, tell me about it.

Dr. Anderson: Absolutely, well Karen had challenged me and given me a book called “Mere Christianity by C.S. Lewis and I took that….

Sid: You know I got that book too and I have to tell you when I read it my mind was in such a fog I mean being Jewish and having no paradigm on the Bible or anything else. You know I read a couple of pages but that was about it; but what affect did it have on you?

Dr. Anderson: Well I and he is not the easiest person to read but I sat down by myself on a camping trip by the fire and I read straight through it. It just for some reason my mind was open. Because Karen had asked me to pray one prayer before I went on this camping trip “That God if You’re real reveal Yourself to me.” And so I was open to the idea that there was a God and if He was there He would reveal Himself. So I read straight through “Mere Christianity” and my mother had sent a Bible to me when I was in college and she knew that I was struggling with religion. But she sent this Bible that I used more as a book to hold the door open than anything.

Sid: That’s better than most people’s homes they just put it on a book shelf but go ahead.

Dr. Anderson: (Laughing) But anyway I read the Gospel of John because that had been recommended as a good starting point. And so as soon as I closed the Bible that evening I fell asleep and I fell into a deep deep dream. And in that dream Jesus came to me and He spoke He said “Reggie, why are you running from me, your friends are here with me in paradise and I turned and I in my dream I could clearly see Jimmy and Jerry and their entire family.

Sid: This was the family that was involved in the mass murder and rape, go ahead.

Dr. Anderson: And they were all happy and glowing and healed and wanted to be there and did not want to come back here to earth. I knew that’s where I wanted to go and to be with Jesus. He said to me in the next sentence “Reggie if you’ll stop running and turn and follow Me, and listen to My words all of what I will tell you will come true.” And then He began to tell me that I would marry this young lady who wouldn’t even go out with me because an atheist.

Sid: And almost a stalker, but go ahead. (Laughing)

Dr. Anderson: Exactly, that I would have 4 children and that I would practice medicine in rural Tennessee. And so I woke up from this mystifying dream and I knew that my life had changed, that my spiritual chemistry had turned 180 degrees that I was a new man.

Sid: What about the big thing that caused you to become an atheist and that was the mass murder of your close friends that you’d spent so much time with? What were your thought about that?

Dr. Anderson: Well I could clearly see them and I knew that they were happier where they were now then where they were then. And I knew that everything had come to pass was for a reason. And that God had brought this entire family to His bosom quicker through this tragic event and there were no more questions about why it happened and where was God? God was right there in the midst of it and they did not want to come back to earth; they wanted to stay there in paradise and I knew that at that moment that was the answer.    

Sid: And in your book you say that “When you get to heaven you’ll have all the answers for why.” In the mean time you saw the fruit of what their life was like and so why should you be grieving now.

Dr. Anderson: Right, exactly I don’t want to stay here any longer than I have to but you know God has asked me to be here on earth to continue to minister to others and try to bring more into the fold and into the family…

Sid: You know I had a close friend that was a doctor that’s now in heaven and his name was Dr. Richard Eby and he spent many, many hours in heaven which totally changed his life also. And I wrote a book called “Heaven is Beyond Your Wildest Expectations” in which I interviewed some of the best witnesses I’ve ever found that have gone to heaven and to come back to report about it. And two of them were very close friends of mine. But I’ll tell you something “Your book is so credible that if someone is an atheist I think it’ll put a crack in their atheism.” If someone is looking for answers because why bad things happen to good people so to speak; why tragedy occurs it’s going to give them answers. If someone is fearful of death even if they’re a believer and they shouldn’t be it’s going to totally demystify deaf and I have to tell you Dr. Anderson your book is as credible as you are and I believe many… I have such a burden for college students that are getting fed this atheism as if it’s normal that I’ll tell you what I’d like to give this book to every college student in the world. But your book “Appointments with Heaven” and my book “Heaven is Beyond Your Wildest Expectations.” And a special DVD we did at the It’s Supernatural Mentoring Center in Charlotte, North Carolina in which you answer questions about death, and everyone listening has got questions. It is going to take all fear out of death; it’s going to change your whole paradigm for life.

 

Our Guest Kynan Bridges

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Sid: Oh, my guest Kynan Bridges is red hot for the Messiah. You would be red hot for the Messiah if you woke up one evening and you see Jesus at the foot of your bed calling your name. Kynan, tell me what occurred.

Kynan: The amazing thing I’m sitting there and I hear Jesus calling me. Now I’ve been praying for these kind of experiences but I don’t think I was prepared for it Sid. And He’s calling my name and I look up and I see a man standing there in white. Now I know by the Holy Ghost this is the Lord Jesus Himself. And He reaches into His chest and He pulls out His heart and He extends it towards me. And I see it beating, it begins to beat (bump, bump), it’s beating. And He says to me “This is My heart for the nations.” Now when He extended His heart to me Sid this was almost like there was a connection in the Spirit realm and I knew what was on His heart. I knew what was in His heart supernaturally. And He begins to tell me His heart is broken over the condition of His Body. Because many in the body believe that He is responsible for their sickness and for their oppression. He’s crying and He’s saying “Son, tell them they don’t know I paid a tremendous price for their healing and for their deliverance, if they only knew.” And Sid I just began to weep because it was such a convicting moment, it was the most miraculous thing I’ve ever experienced.

Sid: You know what I find interesting because I’m a fairly logical type of thinker. First, the first visitation if you will you had was to correct your heart and then you were able to see God’s heart when He was at the foot of your bed. Well there is so many people that are doing exactly what Jesus said this breaking His heart. They’re saying “God I know you heal but why aren’t you healing me, what’s wrong with me?” What would you say to those people?

Kynan: Well one of the biggest deceptions in the Body of Christ is the belief not that God can’t heal, but that He won’t heal, that He will not heal me.” It is a belief that has been perpetuated throughout ages; it has been perpetuated across denominations. I have seen people tormented by this belief. I’ve seen people die prematurely because of this belief and it is an insidious attack from the enemy that must be exposed. And the only way to expose this is by the revelation from God’s word. You know Sid people need to understand something, and I want to talk to someone out there listening now. Nothing in your life will change ever until you receive revelation. Revelation changes everything; it is the catalyst for manifestation. Without revelation there is no manifestation. So many people can know intellectually that God can heal, but until they have revelation that it is His will and His desire unconditionally they’ll never find salvation.

Sid: So how do you get from intellectual knowledge to revelation? (Laughing) How do you make the jump?

Kynan: Well the Bible says first of all in Roman’s 10 it says “Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word.” And so first of all we know that it’s a faith thing, but secondly Jesus said “And they shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free.” Now that knowing there is not just talking about intellect, now we know that. But it’s talking about intimacy, we’re going to have to pray, we’re going to have to open our heart to the Holy Spirit through the word. Until a person really gets into the word and allow the Holy Spirit to give them revelation they’re not going to know what’s available to them. Then the first step is to release their faith, you have to trust God. And secondly we have to get into the word because the word is going to reveal to us what has been freely given to us.

Sid: Yeah but Kynan that okay, but what about a Christian that has heard and heard and heard the word but they happen to be in an American church where they don’t see anything going on. And they intellectually assent to it but it never happens in their life. How do they get from someone… they’re actually in unbelief and don’t even realize it. How do they get out of it?

Kynan: Well first of all they have to change their environment. The Bible talks about in
Roman’s chapter 12 it says “Be not conformed to this world but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind.” Now that word anakinosis is so powerful yet very simple. You know when you think about a renovation of the home, like your home. The first thing that they have to do many times is tear down old parts of the infrastructure and build new ones. That’s what renovation is all about, that’s what my renewal is all about. We have to allow God to challenge our paradigm. You know the first thing that began to happen in my life Sid when it comes to healing is that I had to look at myself, my own situation and I had to begin to ask God the hard questions. Most people don’t do that, most people say “Well because it’s not happening for me it can’t happen.” That’s like saying “Man has never flown to the moon it can’t happen.” Well duh… it can happen.

Sid: Hm.

Kynan: But you have to be willing to make the investment in the word, they have to be willing to break those barriers in their mind and heart to push through to the next level of experience. So it’s going to take audacity, it’s going to take you changing your environment. It’s going to take you getting around people who are flowing in the things that you know God says are available to you. So we have to make some changes in our lives.

Sid: …tell me why [your book] will help someone.

Kynan: Well the first thing that it’s going to do is it’s going to challenge your mentality. Almost everything that we experience in our lives is a result in the way that we think. So if we want to change our lives we have to change our mindset. And Sid this cannot be underestimated this is one of the most powerful things. I have experienced in my own life the power of a transformed mind. It literally… your mind being transformed can be the catalyst for God releasing God’s supernatural power in your life. I had to do that, I wasn’t raised in a church where we saw miracles all the time. I saw them occasionally but I didn’t see them all the time. So I had to develop a new normal, I had to develop a new standard. And that came from making up in my mind Sid that God’s word is true no matter what. Let God be true and every man a liar. You know I quote from John G. Lake one of the most healing evangelists of our time. He said that when he read this scripture and I want to read it out to our listener Acts 10:38 how “God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and went about doing good healing of all that were oppressed of the devil.” John G. Lakes said that when he saw that scripture he knew almost intrinsically that it was the absolute will of God to heal. And when he realized Sid that it was the will of God to heal he said these words “Everything in my being began to fight the devil” and that’s what has to happen. Everything in our being every fiber in our being has to fight against the will of the devil in our lives.

Sid: You know that is so strong and so important. I think that most Christians are passive and although they wouldn’t admit it it’s a “Que sera, sera.” Well if God does it find but He doesn’t fine and that’s not a militant approach is it?

Kynan: Not only is it not a militant approach but you have to understand something about the devil. Satan is a terrorist, he is a hardened criminal, he is a madman Sid. Jesus called him a thief, a murderer from the beginning. I mean we’re not talking about someone who’s coming to sell you Girl Scout cookies.

Sid: Hm.

Kynan: He’s talking about someone that’s trying to kill, steal and destroy according to John 10:10. So we cannot deal with him passively. The only thing he will respond to is brute power and force. And that power comes when we have a conviction in our heart that God’s word is absolutely true and that God… what God said in His word about model Christ. I must receive, I can’t live without it. Until you get there you won’t fight.

Our Guest Steven Brooks

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SID: What I love is when these gifts happen…when you’re having a cup of coffee. You were in Israel having a cup of coffee with your wife. What happened?

STEVEN: Well I went down to get a cup of coffee. I sat at the table. This was at the Jerusalem bus stop in a very busy area. I wasn’t doing anything spiritual. Matter of fact, Sid, I didn’t really want to have to pray for anybody or have to do any type of ministry. I just wanted to drink my latte. So my wife went in line to get me a cup of coffee and she got herself one. And two elderly Jewish ladies were there in line and my wife overheard them talking about how much pain they were in. One basically was saying, “My back is killing me.” The other was saying, “Yes, I’m in tormenting pain as well.” And my wife said, “Well my husband, he’s sitting right over there. Why don’t you go over and ask him to pray for you. He’ll pray for you.” So they came over to my table. They kind of interrupted my coffee time. But I said, “Okay, I’ll pray for you, but I have to use the name of Jesus.” And they said, “Sshh, don’t say that name here, you’ll start a riot.” And they said, “We don’t want anything to do with that name.” I said, “Okay. That’s fair, but I have to use his name because that’s where the authority comes from.” They said, “Okay, just be real quiet.” I said, “All right.” So I reached out to pray for the first lady. I felt an anointing, but nothing dramatic happened. I just touched her and I said, “Receive God’s healing power.” And then I reached over to touch the second lady. When I did that, the Spirit of God came on me with tremendous power. My hand from my elbow down to my fingers caught on fire.

SID: Now when I hear you say that, caught on fire, describe.

STEVEN: It was a spiritual feeling.

SID: I know it was spiritual, but describe what it felt like.

STEVEN: I felt flames leaping off my hand. Both ladies jumped back. One of them said, “Dear God, what is that?” I said, “It’s the healing power of God.”

SID: Can you picture, some of you young people, walking up to your teachers and putting your hand on them and the flames of God go right into your teacher? Forget class that day.

STEVEN: I had to calm them down. I said, here it comes. In other words, don’t be afraid of it. Here it comes. And I touched her also and they, she began to be like on fire herself. She said, “I’m burning up.” And I said, “It’s God’s healing power.” The other lady said, “I’m on fire, too.” She said, “I thought they spiked my coffee and put some liquor in my coffee.” And I said, “No, that’s God’s healing power.” Then they looked at their watch. They said, “We’ve got to catch our bus.” And they staggered out of the bus stop. They looked like two drunk ladies. They were overcome with the Spirit’s power. I don’t know what happened to them, but I know God got their number.

SID: And again, this is God’s dinner bell. They knew that Steven prayed in the name of Jesus. They knew that something supernatural happened to them and I believe as they went home they realized the pain was totally gone. Now you said that you want to demystify the gifts and you said that knowledge is so important. Explain.

STEVEN: Well the apostle Paul said, “I do not want you to be ignorant of the spiritual gifts.” And so what that word “ignorant” means is, it means uninformed or misinformed. And so I found out that the better we understand the gifts, we unlock them in a sense that now we know exactly what they, are and they come forth and begin to manifest so much easier when we have a proper understanding of what they are and how they operate. The rest after that is a very easy process. After that, really all you have to do is just step out in faith because they will come forth.

SID: Now speaking about stepping out in faith, tell me about the gift of faith. This is a gift.

STEVEN: The gift of faith is very powerful. And Sid, we have to understand it that all nine gifts mentioned in 1st Corinthians, chapter 12 are supernatural. We cannot pull them down and try to explain these as like just basic gifts. They’re all on a supernatural level. And when we keep them in the place that God assigned them to, then we see the power that comes with them come forth and build up the body of Christ, and reach out and touch the lost. So the gift of faith is not ordinary faith. In other words, this is not like, I believe Jonah was swallowed by a large fish and then later, three days later, he went and ministered to Nineveh. This is a supernatural faith that comes upon you and it won’t stay forever. It might rest for three minutes. It might rest for three days or three hours.

SID: Okay. Tell me about the person that had a problem with their feet.

STEVEN: Well I had this leap of faith come upon me one time when I was ministering to the sick, and I said, “Somebody needs a miracle.” And there was a young man. He was 17 years old and his feet were as flat as a pancake. He had no arches in his feet. And so his mother said, “Would you pray for his arches.” I said, “I will.” And I had such faith come upon me. I said, “Take off your shoes. Take off your socks and anybody who’s never seen a miracle, come watch, and when I pray for him, do not close your eyes. Keep your eyes open and you will see arches form in his feet.”

SID: But wait a second. What if it didn’t happen? You realize the faithful of the whole group would go [unintelligible].

STEVEN: Right if it wasn’t going to happen, I’m in big trouble.

SID: For sure.

STEVEN: But when that gift comes, it obliterates doubt.

SID: You knew.

STEVEN: There’s no doubt. There’s no fear. You know God is going to do that.

SID: Okay. So people are watching you grab his feet, flat as a pancake. What happens?

STEVEN: I took his, I took, it was the right foot, if I’m correct, I took in my hand. And before I could even pray, “In the name of Jesus,” an arch formed right in front of everybody. I couldn’t even get out the full prayer and the arch went [unintelligible] and a perfectly formed arch in his foot. I grabbed the other one. I started to pray, “In the name of…” and there went the arch. It formed completely in his feet. He stood up and I received the written testimony of his mother of this tremendous miracle that happened in his feet, and now his feet are normal. That’s not just a healing. That’s a miracle. And the reason it happened was because special faith came upon me. If people want to move into the gifts of healings and into the working of miracles, they have to go through the door of special faith. And of the power gifts, the greatest one is the gift of special faith. Sometimes I call it super faith because when it comes on you, you feel like Superman and it’s the power of God to do what you’re called to do, and step out and do it boldly.

SID: Okay. You also operate in, he actually operates in all the gifts of the Spirit, all nine. However, tell me about the gift of discernment, discerning of spirits.

STEVEN: This is a fascinating gift. Out of all the gifts, Sid, I used to look at them, I felt I was beginning to get a handle on some of the gifts and I would look at discerning of spirits. And one day I just set my Bible down and I said, “Lord, I haven’t a clue in the world what this gift is. Would you please help me understand it so it can begin to come forth in my life.” And many people call it perhaps a gift of discernment. But discernment is not necessarily a gift. We all should have good discernment. We should all be able to have what also we call good common sense. But this is something different. This is discerning of spirits. So it can be discerning of evil spirits. It can be discerning of angelic spirits. It can be discerning of the realm of God and His Glory or it can be discerning the realm of the satanic world. But discerning the spirits is when our senses are opened up, and God can open it up, and it can come in different facets. To be in the Spirit we can hear, taste, touch or smell in the spirit realm through the gift of discerning the spirits.

SID: And you know what I think is so neat? When we come back, I’m going to have Steven pray for you for just a release of the gifting that God has already put within you, maybe for healing. But he has the ability to see or smell when something is evil and when something good is going on. I want him to teach on that. We’ll be right back.

Our Guest Chuck Pierce

Chuck Pierce

Sid: Now I have a book titled “Worship Warrior” by Chuck Pierce. I’m speaking to him at his office in Denton, Texas and I have to tell you after reading your book Chuck I put a worship CD on and as a matter of fact I did this last night. And I turned the lights down and I was in a room by myself and I just raised my hands and I started worshiping God. And of course I’d just read in your book about this whole concept of ascension of ascending but this wasn’t my imagination. In my mind’s eye I saw some angels, now I’d never seen that before is that unusual?

Chuck: Well, I don’t think it’s unusual because I think when we worship Sid we go into a dimension that is available to each one of us. And what we began to see is that the Lord of Host that He has available to us. And worship is the whole key to that, and it is such a blessing to be talking to you you know and I think one of things that knit us together in Israel at Rosh Hashanah was we were worshiping and this contexts of gathering of the nations. And the Spirit of God just came down and brought us you could just feel the Spirit of God and you could just feel revelation coming down. And when you worship I want to say to you listeners this ministry first of all that Sid has is worth supporting, worth being a part of. And then I want to say this, “When we worship we go to a place our spirit is positioned properly in the heavens and then all the blessings in heavenly places we have access to. Now there’s a verse that always come to mind that when you introduce your show that we’re doing right now. And you’re saying “Welcome family, there’s a trumpet going to sound.” I love the verse in Revelations chapter 4 it says “After these things I looked and behold a door standing open in heaven.” Now this is where the Lord had revealed Himself to John. And you want to find out what does it mean “After these things.”   Because God had come down on Patmos Island revealed Himself to John and then He spoke to John about the 7 key churches of that region. And he did 5 things and if you’re listening you can get an understanding of this what God will do while you’re worshiping. We find that the book of Revelation is an entire book of worship and something that we will experience in days ahead but it’s personal as well as futuristic. And so I want to explain this to each one of us personally right now. He came down and He told John He said “Here’s what these churches have been doing well.” And God always if you’ll start worshipping God and some of you might think that you’re separated from God but if you’ll start worshiping Him the Lord will remind you of His plan for you. And He’ll remind you of how you have pursued Him in the past but then what He will begin to…notice what He did with the churches He put His finger on the things they haven’t been doing well. A lot of time God will do that the Second Thing: He’ll say “Now this is what you’ve not done that would bring you into a more full plan that I have for you. The Third Thing: He did was He instructed each one of those churches. Well, He’ll do the same for you when you worship Him. And in the Fourth Thing: That He did was He said “Let me remind you of the promises I have and if you will listen by the Spirit of what I’m saying to the church right now you’ll hear.” God does that with His covenant people, He does it with Israel, His inheritance; He does it with the people who will…He has this special covenant with Israel but then when you come to know Him you’re grafted into that covenant and He’s ready to talk with you, He’s ready to commune with you. And here what I love about this scripture it says “A door was standing open in heaven and the first voice which I heard was like a trumpet speaking to me saying ‘Come up here and I’ll show you things which must take place after this.’ In other words not only will I reveal to you what I’m saying to you today but I’ll show you what’s going to happen in the future.” And that’s why I think this book is so important for us right now because it brings us to a new place of worship where not only we can experience God’s host of heaven in our midst now but He can also open our eyes to where we’re going.

Sid: Listen, with what is going on as far as terrorism worldwide. What we know with all of the warning alerts we have all the time will happen right in this nation. I have friends that live in Israel and they say that before they go out anywhere they pray and if they feel a check in their spirit they don’t even go out. I mean if there’s ever been a generation that has to get in touch with God and has to hear God’s voice it’s us.

Chuck: Listen Sid I believe that if we’re worshipers and I say worship from a true concept. I don’t mean people who just get in that place and just they don’t understand how to walk in the earth. I believe if you learn how to come into the throne room you’ll know how to walk in the earth realm. And so I also know this if you get to know the presence of God you’ll know where His presence is not and your spirit will say. Your spirit filled with the Holy Spirit will say to you “Go a different way.” And so it’s very important right now that we get familiar with the throne room and then how we need to walk in the earth realm.

Sid: Now Chuck you’re a very prophetic type of person how’s worship connected with the prophetic.

Chuck: Well, the prophetic means this it simply means…I got another book called “When God Speaks.” And hopefully Sid we’ll have that available for us sometime. But it’s simply communicating the mind and heart of God. Now it takes both because the letter will kill us by just knowing the truth. But God has an emotion and heart and so I don’t think you can really perceive the emotion of God right without learning to worship Him. Because not only will He illuminate the word to you, not only will He give you revelation and talk to you about your life and your family and your city and your vision that you’re a part of. But what He’ll also do is He will begin to open up your understanding of how to know Him and how to really walk with Him in a very very practical way. And I believe that is the key to the prophetic because word…remember all of you that are listening as the word of God says in Proverbs 28:19 “Without a vision” what happens to the people? Well, that means they perish without a vision. But that means without prophetic revelation they perish. And so what you always want to do is you can always be assured if you’re willing to submit yourself to God He can give you how to resist the devil and you’ll move forward in victory.

Sid: You know I’m looking at my notes in chapter 7 titled “Host of heaven Judah and the Lion.” You talk about how one time you were worshipping God and you became overwhelmed with His presence and you began to thank God for all for all He had done for you. And then you could see the future blessings that God had for you and even for your children, explain that.

Chuck: Well, because see like I just said in Revelation once we allow God to bring a reality in our life by saying “This is what I have plan for you, you’ve done this well, you’ve not done this well, this is what I’m instructing you to do.” And we have a heart that’s willing to obey what He’s instructing us to do not only do we see the promise for our life. But then He opens this window like it says in Revelations 4:1 “He opens a door into the future.” And all of a sudden we know this is what God’s going to do with my children, this is what He has planned for us, here’s our inheritance. Inheritance means “God has a portion for you Gods got a spot for you.” Every one of you listening not only can you know how He wants you to operate in your spot but He can tell you how your promises are connected with the next generation.

Sid: Give me an example of what He told you for yourself.

Chuck: Well, first of all He showed me for me it was an interesting thing He spoke to me. He showed me that I had been called for the healing of the nations. Now I didn’t understand that at all and I was in a field called “Human Resource Systems in Cognitive Systems.” That’s my background (Ha). And which was a good background I could look at it now and I can see that that was a very good background because it looked at a whole person. It was a secular study and it involved education and it involved several facets of disciplines. What He did was He showed me that I was called for the healing of the nations and then once I agreed with that He showed me He began to direct my path where the 80’s I worked into the Soviet bloc countries and then of course I worked with Cindy Jacobs and Dr. Peter Wagner since the ‘90s. And been involved as the leader of the World Wide Prayer Movement, one of the leaders of that movement and now my whole life is for healing of the nations so even in the 70’s…

Sid: So, even when you didn’t understand what that meant.

Chuck:   Didn’t understand at all, see you don’t have to understand everything if you’re in God’s presence it communicates into our spirit and then we can walk it out.

Sid: Chuck you talk about well I like to call it “Cementing our brains and that worship brings us out of conformity.” I mean too often we just want to copy everyone else.

Chuck: Listen we’re made to worship Him and worshiping Him and when you understand the Spirit of God and we can talk about this more and you’re spirit that has been made uniquely you’re worship is going to have a unique flavor about it. Now we can worship corporately but still you are…there’s nobody else on the earth realm like you. And nobody in the earth realm like you and God knew you before the foundation of the earth. So when you start responding to Him you will demonstrate an aspect of God by Him flowing through you and you coming into communion and union with Him that no one else in the earth will demonstrate.

Sid: Chuck what kind of feedback are you getting on your book?

Chuck: This book has…it was really quite amazing Sid at the beginning because it was overwhelming the demand for this book. And I think it’s just because it’s the right time we know that we’re living in a war season and we know that the only way that we’re going to win that war is through worship. So you even mentioned that the book should be called “Worship Wars” I really think that is an appropriate title.

Sid: Oops we’re out of time.

Our Guest Tommy Reid

Tommy Reid

Sid: This is Sid Roth with Tommy Reid. Tommy I believe has lived what he is teaching. His greatest desire is to have you do greater than him because he learned as a child that there is a dream from God for every human. And when you achieve knowing that dream and implementing that dream you have achieved your destiny. And his greatest desire is for you to achieve your destiny. Tommy let’s start with the first Jew, Abraham, what is God showing you?

Tommy: Well when I look at the life of Abraham I’ve got a lot of favorite Bible characters but he is my faith father so I love to start where he started. First of all Abraham did not come from what we know as a Jewish home or from a Christian home. He was a son of a idol maker but God encountered him. He had this encounter with God and God told him a number of things. He told him he would give him a child of the family and Bashan but he couldn’t have children. And so as he had this vision from God or this voice of God saying “This is who you are and this is what you’re going to do and you’re going to be a great nation.” One day he believed it and he did two things with that dream and this is the way that Abraham teaches us how to hear God’s voice. Number one he went to what I call the cathedral of God he went out in the open air where there’s nothing between he and God. It was the open heavens he could see the stars, he could feel the breeze he was in this again what I call the cathedral. And as he was there and hearing God’s voice and remembering God’s voice he did 2 things. First of all he reached down and he felt the sand. And he felt the sand going through his hands and he said “I see my children, there’s thousands of them, millions of them. I see my children.” Then he looked at the stars and he began to count them and he was enough of an astronomer know that there was more stars than he could count; “My children go beyond the numbers that I can count.” So the first take we…the first place he takes is dream, he takes it to the open air. I love to take my dreams what God says to me out of the open air. If you want to hear God’s voice get where there’s nothing between you and God. If it’s zero degrees take a walk and look at the stars it’s a wonderful place to hear God’s voice. Number 2 God says to him “Build me an altar.” The second place to hear God’s voice is in the intimacy of the altar. Its here we make sacrifice, it’s here we listen, it’s hear we hear the still small voice of God. And so my exhortation to anyone that wants to hear God’s voice is 2 places to hear God’s voice to hear the best. One is in the open air; the other is in the intimacy of your communication with God where there’s intimacy between you and God. And you know Sid hearing God’s voice ought to be so natural, we ought to be able to hear it as we drive our cars. I personally for 50 years I’ve always driven a convertible because I love to put the top down, I can hear God’s voice. It’s where there’s nothing between me and God. One story I close with I was a good friend of Robert Schuler’s and we had spent Wanda and I had spent a vacation with he and Arvella and 6 other couples at The Balls within the State on Maui. And one day we went out for a walk with him through the woods. You know we built a crystal cathedral nothing between you and God. And as you look at the crystal cathedral we were thinking about that. And so we went out for a walk in the woods and in the back of the estate old wooden platform. At the end of the platform was this hand hewn pulpit. He raised his hands and said “This is the greatest cathedral in the world there is nothing between me and God.” And so part of my advise is that your going to hear God find a place a place of intimacy and a place of expanse where you believe that God is going to speak to you. Does that make any sense to you Sid?

Sid: Well the key that I’m hearing you say is have nothing separate… go out into nature and believe that God’s going to speak.

Tommy: Yeah and you don’t commune with nature you commune with the God that made nature. There’s nothing…I’ve got to picture myself and see myself as being able to see God’s face to face and one to one. That’s the God that heals Tommy Reid when I was a boy. That’s the God that called me when I was a cripple; that’s the God that called me when I was a stutter and couldn’t speak. This God that I’ve known from my mother’s knee is the God that’s there’s nothing between me and this God.

Sid: Well you believe because scripture says that God wrote the purposes and the destiny of our life before the foundation of the world. That’s true for every one that’s listening.

Tommy: Everyone that\s listening? Yeah, I’ll be glad to. Every single person on the other side of this microphone even if you never heard God’s voice even though you’re listening today and it kind of caught you by surprise and your out there and you say “I never heard God I didn’t know if there is a God.” Listen because He’s speaking, He’s speaking in a language of dreams, He’s speaking in a language of visions and I guarantee you without a shadow of a doubt that if you’ll listen you’ll hear His voice.

Sid: Tell me about in your new book “How to Live Out of a Dream,” and especially the workbook portion to help you identify your dreams and bring them to past. Why did you set it up this way?

Tommy: I set it up this way because I want people to work their way through dreams. For instance I say that first I remember the first workbook “Praise” I ask the question “What dreams did you have when you were 7 or 8 years of age what did you dream about?” Did you dream about being a fireman maybe so but maybe that dream really meant you were supposed to rescue people. Maybe it means that you’re supposed to be a preacher and give altar calls. Maybe you’re supposed to be a person that witnessed to your Jewish neighbor who needs Christ, who needs to accept Him as Messiah. And maybe that’s what dream meant. Think about your dreams and write it down. And then I say the next question is “What did you do with it” did you follow it, did you throw it away or did you listen to it?” And so the questions are kind of like that and we go from truth to truth. First question is “When was your dream written by God, when you were born, when God created the world or before the foundation of the world?” And so we go through the chapters of the book and ask questions.

Sid: Now you talk a lot and I sure wish I would have understood this I wish everyone would understand; I want you to teach just a few minutes on the battle between the world around us and the world inside of us.

Tommy: I was first going to call my book “The Conflict” because that’s one of the great battles that we fight between we fight inside of us. I saw this big church inside of me but I looked up and it was a little church. Think of the dream that Henry Ford had, he had a vision of putting America on wheels. And yet there were no roads, there were no gas stations, there was no place to even drive the cars. And even if you had them and could sell them the people couldn’t afford to buy them. So how are you going to make a car that multitudes could buy. But that dream concord the dream around him. And that’s true with everybody no matter who the great man is. The dream inside of you, the dream of Henry Kaiser to build the Liberty and Victory ships. It took him what was it a year and 4 months to build a ship, but he shortened the time one time to 4 days to build a 450’ ship because it was a dream inside of him greater than the world around him. But there was a conflict; well my conflict was trying to build a church in Buffalo and wasn’t succeeding. I got an invitation to pastor a big church in Hawaii. When I was working with Dr. Cho we got an offer to co-pastor the great full-gospel church in Soul with him. But yet there was another church inside of me so I had to say no to one to say yes to the other.

Sid: Yea, after saying no to these wonderful opportunities things that people… it’s like unreal the opportunities that were presented to you Tommy. You finally God gave you a vision to build churches in Buffalo and you go there and for 7 years nothing is happening. Between you and me did you think that you really had missed God?

Tommy: Oh yeah, I think there’s times I think that all of us have doubts but not that overwhelming. I still knew it was inside of me; I still saw that church even though I became discouraged I knew that God was going to do it beyond a shadow of a doubt there was something inside of me. There was times of doubt yes. But there would also be times when I would have to move back into the world inside of me and say “God I still believe it.” But there was a time when God really spoke to me. There was a book I wrote a number of years ago with 3 visions in it. And one of the visions that I had I think was a stumbling block to building the church. Was I began to pray a prayer inside of me, the prayer inside of me was “God show me the world as You see it.” Now I thought I knew how God saw the world. I got that from all of the sermon’s I heard that God hates the world and he’s going to destroy it and He’s going to send all of the judgment upon it. That’s who I thought God was, that’s how I thought God thought about the world. And I prayed this prayer “God show me the world as you see it.” And one day I was driving my car and I don’t know who drove the car for the next 2 minutes it may have been a few seconds but I had this vision as I was pulling the car up onto the throughway and I was way above the world. Now remember the prayers coming out of me is “Lord show me the world as you see it.” And all of a sudden I took this, I had this kind of a bird’s eye view of the world and I saw the places I’d been in Korea, the Philippians the cities that I’d been in. And all of a sudden I saw the hands of Jesus nailed scarred and they came toward the world and I thought I saw the world as He saw it so I thought they were going to destroy the world. Instead they gently caressed the world and Jesus opened the world and inside I saw a broken heart. And Jesus said to me “Tommy, that’s the way I see the world and if you’ll see it that way I’ll give you a great church.” And my whole world changed, my message was different, my love for the Jew, my for the… you know I thought as some mistaken Christians have thought that that God wanted to judge the Jew because they had been part of the crucifixion. I began to realize that God loved them with an underwhelming love because He saw them with a broken heart. Everything about how Jesus saw the world changed and with that the church grew from 150 people to 800 in one week.

Sid: In one week! Well you make an amazing statement I’m going to quote you. “The world inside you is the seed you must plant in the world around you.”