LAURA: [laughs] And that’s what’s behind so many times we try to fix someone else. You know I was telling my children the other day okay, so we’ve known a lot of people who get married and then 6 years, 7 years later they got divorced. It’s like the seven year itch or something. I said opposites attract! God gave you to each other for a reason.    

DAWNA: Yeah. Yeah.

LAURA: And then all those things that you absolutely loved suddenly you want to change them. But that’s not our responsibility. So I love that and I pray that that really ministered to somebody! All right. Now let me ask you this one other thing. When you see someone who comes in and they are bound up like that. You said that it happens quickly, even quicker – somebody who’s been in therapy a very long time. Have you ever dealt with people who are on the brink of committing suicide they were so desperate?

DAWNA: Oh absolutely!

LAURA: Yeah. I imagine.

DAWNA: Absolutely! Many times. We have people come in that are so desperate that they’re just like you know this is my last chance. Or speaking of husbands and wives, it was my wife sent me. We’re going to get a divorce if this doesn’t work. I’m like oh, no pressure at all! But any of those situations you know God is faithful and He’s able to answer! I think really the issue is connection to the Holy Spirit. So we are paying attention to the Holy Spirit. They are paying attention to the Holy Spirit and He knows what’s going on inside.    

LAURA: Yeah, He does.

DAWNA: It’s not a surprise to God what you think. It’s not a surprise to God what you feel. And I have a friend that said you know feelings aren’t truth but they are true.

LAURA: Right.

DAWNA: You know it’s like but they’re not telling you the truth so it’s interesting to see what are the feelings down inside? And so if you want to commit suicide there’s a reason for that.

LAURA: Yeah.

DAWNA: And it could be the atmosphere telling you. It could be an assignment over the area. Or it could be that you’re just discouraged so much. Things aren’t working out the way you planned. Yeah. 

LAURA: All right! Great! I want us to wait right there and then after the break [music begins] we’re going to touch on that more again. So stay with us! There’s something more on Something More! I’m Laura Harris Smith and we’re here today with author Dawna De Silva.

LAURA: Hi everyone! Welcome back to Something More! Before the break we were talking with our friend Dawna De Silva. And she was describing just some different ministry situations that she has encountered in Bethel Sozo, her ministry. De Silva Ministries. And you know we touched on the fact that there was somebody we felt like that maybe they were thinking about committing suicide. Sometimes it’s not that drastic. Maybe for you it’s just hopelessness. I just kept seeing darkness all around someone. You’re watching television and you don’t even quite know why you tuned in today. We’re not asking you for anything. We are just saying that God can deliver you! He is the light! And I want to give you hope that He has a hope and a future for you! So stay in with us here? Okay? Don’t check out cause we want to help you get out of that dark place! And Dawna, you and I have talked about this before and it is so important. It’s on the top of my list to you. We have to be careful what we consume media-wise. That includes the music on our playlists.

DAWNA: Uh-huh.

LAURA: That includes the movies that we watch! I would imagine it includes everything from what we eat, what’s in our refrigerator, what we drink! Come on, let me have it!

DAWNA: [laughs]

LAURA: I mean I know this is big on your heart too! What we do and engage in and watch affects our spirits!