TONY:  Here it comes. Three, two, one. There’s the anointing for it. That’s it. Take it. One guy needs to stay with her. What is happening with you? Stand sideways. Show æem how tight it was? Tell the truth. Where was it before?

Woman #9:  It fit perfect.

TONY:  And now?

WOMAN #9:  It’s loose, and it’s loose in the back. (laughing)

TONY:  It really wasn’t— It wasn’t that loose before?

WOMAN #9:  No.

TONY:  Are you telling me it was a little tighter?

WOMAN #9:  Yes. It fit perfectly. Now I can pull it back far.

TONY:  You couldn’t do that before for real?

WOMAN #9:  No.

TONY:  Somebody oughta give the Lord a praise!

AUDIENCE:  (CLAPS)

TONY:  Come over here and stand. I need a man to stand behind her. We’re gonna pray. Do you want to lose some more?

WOMAN #9:  Yes.

TONY:  Say “Jesus touch me.”

WOMAN #9:  Jesus touch me.

TONY:  Okay, I release it. There it is. Oh my, take it.

WOMAN #10:  My blouse got looser first.

TONY:  First?

WOMAN #10:  First.

TONY:  That means something else getting ready to go on.

WOMAN #10:  And my pants they were already loose when I got here but they’re looser. I can feel it in the back.

TONY:  You can feel it in the back. They’re looser?

WOMAN #10:  They’re looser. But it’s mostly here in my blouse.

TONY:  Are you happy about that?

WOMAN #10:  I’m happy.

TONY:  (Laughing) I can’t help it, okay? I’m just gonna, I’m gonna have some fun. Okay? Are you ready to lose some more?

WOMAN #10:  Yes, sir.

TONY:  Umm, I feel like about 15 or 20. Are you ready? 

WOMAN #10:  I’m ready.

TONY:  She’s committed. Stretch forth your hand. Here comes the miracle power. There it is. 15 or 20 more pounds. Receive it. Anybody else? Check yourself. Come. Come, come, come, come. Yeah, sister you can, you can go and give us some room. But you— listen, you’re actually gonna get looser tonight. What, sister, what has happened?

WOMAN #11:  Right here, it’s starting back here.

TONY:  It’s looser?

WOMAN #11:  Yes, yes, back here.

TONY:  Is it a little bit looser or starting to get quite a bit looser?

WOMAN #11:  Uh, well it could be looser. Let’s pray—

TONY: You want it to be more looser? So it starting to loosen up? You’re kind of like that guy over there, things are breaking—

TONY:  You ready? Jesus. Okay. There it is. There’s the anointing. Take it. There it is. I release the miracle of supernatural weight loss into my sister’s body. Now when I take my hand off of you the Holy Spirit’s coming upon you. Yes, sir. What has happened?

MAN #4:  You made a comment a minute ago and I just felt some pressure leave right here. (laughing)

AUDIENCE AND

TONY:  (LAUGHING)

TONY:  Look at somebody and say “Pressure is leaving.”

AUDIENCE:  Pressure is leaving.

TONY:  Look at somebody and say “Supernatural weight loss by the loss of pressure.”

AUDIENCE:  Supernatural weight loss by the loss of pressure.

MAN #4:  Humble is the way! 

SID: When Mary Baxter prayed over you, you received something special and when you pray for deliverance in a corporate setting, have you ever seen almost everyone gets set free in a congregation?

JOHN: Yes, it’s happened to me two times. It was totally amazing. Didn’t touch anyone. Just spoke deliverance and people just started falling out and manifesting. Even the elders that were helping them, they were falling out as well.

SID: Do people know if they have demons?

JOHN: I believe some do and some don’t. I was doing a deliverance class and one of my members of my church, she came and said, “look, I don’t need to come to the deliverance class.” She said, “I only have one demon”. And I say, “that’s one demon too many. You don’t want any demons.”

SID: Tell me about the woman. Just read the intro of your brand new book and what happened.

JOHN: That was amazing. She came to our church and she purchased the book and she went home and just read the introduction and the first chapter. She wrote on my Facebook page, she wrote in saying that she got total deliverance just by reading those two chapters. It amazed me.

SID: You see why the devil did not want that book? I mean that’s a freedom book. Yes. Did you feel the glory of God at all when you were doing this?

JOHN: I did. I did, and the glory was more evident through the resistance because I believe that when you are facing a lot of resistance, God is in that thing. And you have to keep going and push forward. Too many people face resistance and they stop going, but that’s when I go hard even more. David ran at Goliath, he didn’t run from Goliath. He ran at Goliath first, so a lot of times we have to run after the devil and get him on the run instead of him having us on the run.

SID: You know what I believe? I believe once the devil becomes convinced you’re never going to give up. He goes and looks for someone else. That’s what I’m convinced.

JOHN: I would say the devil fights hard, but he doesn’t fight long.

SID: I like that. You teach a lot about how to protect our anointing oil with the Holy Spirit. What, what do you mean by that? Explain that.

JOHN: Well, one definition of anointing is effectiveness. So the devil wants to stop our effectiveness, so he’ll do whatever he can do. So we really need to guard our oil, our anointing so he doesn’t discover the secret to our effectiveness. A lot of times we talk about anointing and you need anointing for different things. Revival, for breakthrough, for healing. And once the enemy finds that secret out, he’ll start planning and plotting against you. That’s why sometimes it’s better to be quiet than to really talk a lot. You don’t want the enemy to hear you. The plans and strategies God has downloaded specifically to you in order to tear down his kingdom. So I believe that again, it goes back to effectiveness. God has given us oil to be effective and the devil doesn’t want that.

SID: You say that every believer [has] a right to divine wholeness and healing. Every believer.

JOHN: Yes, yes.

SID: Explain.JOHN: I did a study and I looked at how people were healed and I learned that the people that decreed the thing got healed. Instead of asking questions, instead of asking for healing. I went to the Centurion soldier. He said, “speak the word only and my service should be made holy.” He told that to Jesus and it happened. The woman with the issue of blood, she said, “if I may touch to hem of his garment, I’ll be made whole.” And she did it. And that’s what happened. And even blind Bartimaeus, he said, “Oh, son of David have mercy on me.” Statement. Decree. He got healed. He got healed. He got his sight back. So what I learned is that we have to do it by faith. Job 22 and 28 says, if you decree a thing it is established. So I’m learning that we have to decree him because it’s something that belongs to us. Healing is the children’s bread. We have it. It’s a promise of God. So what we have to decree it by faith. And it will start to manifest in our bodies.

SID: What difference would it make if the parents, rather than those word curses that they don’t even understand that have so much power, so much supernatural power, what if they blessed their children?

DONNA: Their children would be free. Their children would be blessed. Their children would receive the blessings that are in heaven, that God stored up in heaven, that he wants to come down to the earth and their children would have those blessings on them.

SID: Look, there is so much to learn from the revelations she got in hell, but even greater the revelations she got in heaven. One of my favorite places that you talk about is the Hall of Miracles, but tell me as you were entering, tell me about those body parts you saw.

DONNA: All right. This place in heaven that’s called the Hall of Miracles is probably my favorite place to go to. When I was in heaven—

SID: It would be my favorite.

DONNA: And it is an enormous hall, miles and miles long, and it’s gold, gold floor with beautiful chandeliers, there’s all diamonds hanging from the whole ceiling. And down this hall, there are doorways, all doorways. And so the Lord brought me there and I said, “Can I go in and see what’s in the doorways?” And he said, “Sure, you can go in.” So I went in the first doorway, the first doorway on the left was a room full of body parts. There were legs, there were arms, there were eyeballs, there were ears. There were all the things that God’s children here on the earth would need. He’s got them there in this room ready. At the great revival that’s coming, he’s going to empty that room and it will be pulled to the earth.

SID: [crosstalk]

DONNA: Oh, for sure, for sure. But what he showed me is we don’t have to wait for the revival. If we pray, if we live in intimate fellowship with him, if we turn from our wicked ways, stop sinning, live holy lives, we can ask him for those things, not just for ourselves, for others too. And he said, if we would do that, we would keep his angels busy day and night, bringing those treasures that are in the hall of miracles to the earth now.

SID: I mean you met so many places that you saw that intrigue me. I’d like to talk about your mansion because… But we don’t have time on that. But tell me about the room of golden fishing nets.

DONNA: Yes. This was down the hall of miracles. In this room that the Lord brought me into there were beautiful gold fishnets all over the room and he said, “I’m getting ready to release these fishnets to the earth and these are going to be sent to those that I found faithful.” He tests his children and he sees who’s faithful to him. Who is diligent, who’s responsible, who will do the right thing when nobody’s looking? Those are the ones, okay? That are faithful in the few he’s going to send these fishnets to and they’re going to be used to bring in the end time harvest. He said, “You will not be drawing in material things with these fish nets. You are going to bring souls into my kingdom.”