SID: Most people believe God, repeat the promises of God and don’t have the results that they expect. Is there something missing? You two have taught me and thousands of other people how to pray from the heart. To me, that is the missing ingredient with most believers.

DENNIS [Dr. Dennis Clark]: Absolutely.

SID: Jennifer, there’s a subject that you hear a lot about and it’s soul ties.

JENNIFER [Dr. Jennifer Clark]: Right.

SID: But soul ties are we think in terms of a sexual attraction, a man towards a woman. That soul tie, but it’s more than even the sexual arena. What does that mean?

JENNIFER: Well, a soul tie means there’s an emotional connection. Soul ties can be good or bad, Godly or ungodly, clean or unclean. The ingredient that makes a soul tie bad and even gives it demonic hell is if there is lust involved.

SID: Dennis, give me a real life example of someone you helped with a soul tie.

DENNIS: I can give you the one that comes to mind immediately is a man who was saying it was non-sexual. He says, “I’ve just got to get ministry. I’ve got this hard, difficult relationship with my mother. It’s like she interferes with our marriage in the sense that she’s calling all the shots and as much as I know better, I can’t stop from letting her run the show.” So, I had him pray in my office and when he got free, I could discern his spirit that it was free, but he said, “I feel like something broke.” His phone rang immediately and it was his mother and she says, “Why have you cut me off? I know it.” That brought in another important truth. When there is demonic activity with a soul tie, yes it starts out emotional but that demonic activity is like an invisible umbilical cord that connects and it’s looking for a connection.

DENNIS: If you’ve got unresolved needs that you’re not letting God meet that need, you’re finding some other way, that thing is going to connect. I’ve had another one was even a pastor who said he had married, happily married. Ran into a childhood sweetheart. Hadn’t seen her for 10 years and instantly he scared himself that the attraction was so strong, this was a happily married man.

JENNIFER: Was so strong.

DENNIS: But it was so strong he called me up and he says, “You know what? I want someone to pray with me on this.” He said, “I’ve frightened myself. I ran into her, haven’t seen her in 10 years.”

SID: So, he thought it was over, but it was just like he hadn’t missed a beat.

DENNIS: Exactly. He was surprised.

JENNIFER: You prayed with him and he was free of that.

DENNIS: Oh absolutely. Yeah. He got free, but he was shocked. The part he was shocked about was that was 10 years ago.

JENNIFER: Time makes no difference if you don’t know how to break the attachment.

DENNIS: Right. You can try, try, try, but it really has to be a spiritual disengagement so to speak that has to be severed. That umbilical cord.

JENNIFER: It doesn’t have to take a long period of time. Once you know how to do it, it can be just about instant.

DENNIS: Yes. But they just have to be able to identify it and a lot of times it takes an old connection. Now, we’re talking people connections, but it can go into so many areas that I’m seeing it rob people of their destiny. That’s what really troubles me it’s because it’s the counterfeit to proper relationships with people, places, or things.

JENNIFER: Then you have people forming relationships with other people to get an emotional need met and they’re actually using and manipulating another person and lo and behold, the person they’re attached to is using them. So, that is getting to be very, very common. God wants to put relationships together. He doesn’t want us using people to meet our needs.

DENNIS: In other words, one of the things that we saw and it was important is most professional men, even in the secular realm, if you were a doctor, a lawyer–

JENNIFER: Pastor, counselor–

DENNIS: Pastor, counselor and if you looked at your bookings for the day and you saw I’ve got Ralph at 9:00, I got so and so at 10:00, I got Sally at 11:00. If there was even a mild emotional stimulation, they should all be treated neutral. They’re clients. To get excited over one appointment over the other ones should be a red flag saying there’s something here that I need to put my guard up and take it to the Lord.

SID: I meet so many believers, this is related, that are for lack of better words, emotionally crippled and as a result, they sabotage themselves their whole life and they don’t even realize that they’re doing it and they have such potential if they could just clear up that baggage they’re carrying along with their emotional issues. I find this almost everyone is dealing with this, but when we come back I want to find out the most important key for total freedom. Be right back.

DAVID: “How do I get back in?” I said, “It’s really simple. Just lay down – you lie on your bed and just start to remember that time you were in Heaven. Just imagine it, remember it, what it was like.” And your mind is a gateway, you know. your – your words are a gateway, but your thoughts are too; “As a man, thinks, so is he.” And as you start to think and remember, many times that gate will be [SNAPS FINGERS] instantly wide open immediately, and you ‘re – and before you know it you ‘re back in! Just like if you talk about the glory, suddenly the glory shows up. You start thinking about and remembering what happened; many times it opens it right up, just by doing that.

SID: Now let me ask you a question. Have you  obviously I’ve been to your meetings, and you ‘ve found that many people get healed of many unusual things at your meetings.

DAVID: Um hm.

SID:  but from a distance, can someone be healed? Like we’re – we’re in –

DAVID: Sure.

SID: t- in – internet now with this.  can – can someone be healed just watching us right now?

DAVID: Oh yeah! They can be healed; even raised from the dead! We’ve seen both from a distance! Um, –

SID: G-give me an example of one person.  in fact, the one that comes to mind that we were talking about earlier is where you knew someone’s name –

DAVID: Yeah.

SID: when you were speaking. Tell me about that.

DAVID: Yeah. So I was moving in the prophetic, and the word of knowledge, and I said, “There’s someone”, I forgot the name now, but I was in Hammond, Louisiana. I gave the first and last name of a man. It’s wonderful when you get accurate like that. Only problem is [VIDEO BEGINS] nobody lifted their hand that was for them.

SID: Hm.

DAVID: So I go, “Is anyone here by that name?”; nobody raised their hand! And I said “oh, great”. And finally a woman comes up and says, “Well that’s my husband’s name, but he’s not here.” She didn’t tell me what was wrong. She stood up, raised her hand. I said, “Well, we’ll pray for you , for him. We’ll -” “you ‘ll stand in proxy for him.” And I just said, “Come back”, three times. She fell out in the Spirit. The next day, she came to the meeting [VIDEO ENDS] and told me, “you didn’t know this, but my husband was in a coma for 4 days.”

SID: And you called his name out.

DAVID: Called his name, and I said, “Come back.”

SID: Hm!

DAVID: But in my natural, I thought, “Oh maybe he left her”, or something, and –

SID: Um hm.

DAVID: no; he was [VIDEO BEGINS] gone. Like, his, “Come back.ö he was in a coma! And the hour that I called his name and she fell out! in the Spirit, he came back too.

SID:  and, –

SID: like, in a little while, if we pray what do you believe is going to happen to people that are just watching this? [VIDEO ENDS]

DAVID: Well I believe the presence of God is already here; it’s in their homes. And if they’ll believe when we begin to pray, the moment we pray, things will begin to happen. They can believe if I give a word of knowledge. Even if I don’t give them a specific word, while they’re listening, they can just begin to get in the Spirit and start to declare their miracle, and they’ll also see miracles.

SID: You know, a lot of people miss this, because let’s say David or myself function in the word of knowledge, which we do; we may not say the condition that you ‘re believing God for, so well don’t miss what David just said. He said whether he says it or I say it or NOT, it’s yours, in the glory. Now, tell me you ‘ve been teaching on these subjects. Tell me about it’s actually [VIDEO BEGINS] the “Aligning With Heaven” package. It’s the book and the 3 CDs.

DAVID: Um hm.

SID: when you teach on this, [VIDEO ENDS]

SID: when you – people read the book, tell me the feedback you get. What’s going to happen to someone that goes through this “Aligning With Heaven” package?

DAVID: People tell me they wish they had this information and revelation 20 years; their whole life would have been different. They’re SO thankful, because they’re seeing prayers that they’d never seen answered in 20-, 30-years get answered within hours, days and weeks. There’s realizing there’s an acceleration. “My people perish for lack of knowledge”, the Bible says. Because we don’t KNOW that we have the right to GO that way TO God, we don’t get the results; so it’s a HUGE revolutionary transformation over people.

SID: tell me – tell me a few of the more popular teachings they get from the CDs and they get from this book.

DAVID: There’s another teaching about how to activate your DNA into God’s DNA, because the blood of Jesus is very powerful – the blood of Yeshua. And in your bladder – your DNA – there’s memory; you – there’s memory of your sins, –

SID: I know this; yes.

DAVID: and that – your past sins; but there’s also memory of blessings down your family line. And a lot of us only break the curses on our family line, but we don’t liberate the blessings off our family line. Even if they weren’t saved, you can ask the Lord to –

SID: You know, I’ve never HEARD of that before. How did you ?

DAVID: Well the Lord [CHUCKLES] began –

SID: How did you even know about that?

DAVID: the Lord began to show me stuff, and I said, “Well let me test this out!”, and I started testing it on myself. And on my Jewish side I had relatives that were scientists, and they knew 12 languages, and they were in business, and government; and I started asking God –

SID: I’ll take a little of YOUR DNA! [LAUGHS]

DAVID: I asked – [CHUCKLES] – I asked – I want some of yours!

SID: [LAUGHS]

BILL:  But Paul and Jude and Jesus said that people would come and they’d fall away, fall away. And by 500 A.D. the Church had gone into complete fallen away. And all the truths of the New Testament had been done away with or formalized into a religious form or belief but there wasn’t any experience of it and so they taught the words but not the experience. A form of godliness but no life and power in them.  Well that was a thousand years that was all lost. But in 1700 with Martin Luther God started the restoration of the Church. That’s called the Second Reformation. So just to give you a nutshell view of it. The 1500’s was the Protestant Movement. Mainly it was justification by faith and breaking away from the old Dark Age Catholic Church that had become to be established. And justification by faith and all of that goes with it. I mean hours on that. Then in 1600 you had the Anabaptist Movement of water baptism by immersion. That was added back into the Church. Then in the 1700’s you had John Wesley and the whole holiness movement of sanctification, living a holy, victorious life. Then the 1800’s you had the divine healing movement with A.B Simpson, a Presbyterian who got revelation of healings and the atonement and started teaching you can be healed, delivered in your body as well as saved in your soul and spirit.     

KYNAN:  Hmm.

BILL:  Then in 1900 we had the Pentecostal Movement where for the first time since the early days God restored back the gift of the Holy Spirit with speaking in tongues. 

KYNAN:  Mmm.

BILL:  And that, and then that’s the reason in my book that I talk about “Seventy Reasons for Speaking in Tongues” and   then in the latter part talks to people who say why don’t all Churches teach this?

KYNAN:  Yeah. Yes, yes.

BILL:  And I say well in the Protestant Movement you had the Episcopalian, Presbyterian, and Lutherans, churches formed from them. In the Evangelical Movement of 1600 are your Baptist Churches and Evangelical Churches sprung up from them. In the Holiness Movement you had your Nazarene, Methodist, all the holiness churches, Church of God, all those holiness churches sprung up. But that wasn’t a part of the revelation. Then 1800 you had the Christian and Missionary Alliance sprung up from A.B. Simpson’s teaching but they didn’t have the revelation on speaking in tongues. When in 1900 when the Pentecostal Movement came there was a release of the restoration of the Holy Spirit’s gift of your own spirit language and then all the churches from thereon that have been established in the Pentecostal Movement, then the Restoration Movement, the Charismatic Renewal and the Faith Movement, Prophetic and Apostolic, all of those teach the speaking in tongues through the spirit in them. And that’s the reason if you’re a Baptist, Methodist or Evangelical you weren’t taught that the Holy Spirit gift is for us today cause it was not restored yet back into the Church. 

KYNAN:  Now Dr. Hamon, let me ask you something. What is the connection between this revelation of the Holy Spirit and speaking in tongues and the Church living victorious today? How important is that for believers to understand?

BILL:  Well in my “Seventy Reasons for Speaking in Tongues” book I explain that there are so many things it does for you. One of the best things to illustrate it is you got your own building and a hydroelectric power plant! And it’s a Holy Ghost power plant!  

KYNAN:  I love that!

BILL:  And what it is is the Bible says be filled with the Spirit! Well it was like they build a dam. I went through the Hoover Dam out there. They build a dam to make a reservoir and a river lifts up, fills it up. Then they have overflow things where if it gets too full it can overflow. But down in the lower part of the dam they have these great big water gates and they have a great big gate that opens up and there’s a turbine in there. And that turbine, zzzzz, you know it’s like a big ol’ airplane blades you know in their engine and curved blades and then when that water hits that it turns it real fast and it turns a great big dynamo and this big dynamo is like Ezekiel says a wheel in the middle of a wheel starts turning and I looked in the dam and they had about twenty of them big as this building, you know, and they started “mmmm” and they produce electricity. Now we have the water gate is our mouth.

KYNAN:  Come on!

BILL:  You got to open your mouth!

KYNAN:  That’s good.

BILL:  And then you have a turbine called a tongue.

KYNAN:  (LAUGHS)

BILL:  And when Jesus said out of your innermost being shall flow rivers of living water and when that river comes up it flows through your turbines. It turns a dynamo of your spirit when the Holy Spirit are one and it generates the love of God, the power of God, the gifts of the Spirit, everything that heaven has to offer can be generated by praying in tongues!

KYNAN:  Oh that’s powerful!

BILL:  It’s the generator, it’s the activator!

KYNAN:  So if I’m hearing you correctly every single believer has access to this Holy Spirit power that you’re talking about.

BILL:  YES!

KYNAN:  And as we begin to place a demand on this dynamo on the inside of us…

BILL:  Right!

KYNAN:  …which is the Holy Spirit, we’re going to see that power flow through us. So this is what Jesus meant when He said “out of your belly shall flow rivers of living water.”