SID: Jeff, in 2003, you had an angelic encounter that catapulted you into a whole new place in God. Tell me about it.

 

JEFF: Well Sid, I had already been moving in miracles, always doing ministry, but I dedicated a season of my life just to be able to press into the Lord because I wanted to go higher. I wanted something fresh from the Lord. So it was a season of prayer. And one night I went to bed after soaking in the presence of God, listening to music and prayer, contemplative. I was laying in my bed asleep and I was awakened by the blast of a trumpet. Two angels stood at the foot of my bed blowing silver trumpets in my face. I knew exactly what the John the Revelator said, in the presence of God he felt like he was a dead man in the presence of this supernatural being. That’s what I felt like. What came out of that encounter, I was taken into a place in Heaven and in this place in Heaven it was like a map room, a room of intercession. It was a map room where angels and people were praying for what God was going to release on the earth before the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. We were talking about that Glory generation. I came back, everything changed in my ministry. Things were happening that I didn’t have a grid for.

 

SID: You know what, I believe you became a forerunner of what’s coming. That’s what it sounds like.

 

JEFF: Yes. I didn’t know what was happening. I was seeing gold teeth. Gemstones started appearing. Creative miracles began to manifest in the meeting. I didn’t even know how to explain it, but something tangible, something new.

 

SID: And by the way, you were at a meeting, you were one of my speakers and it was a funny story. This woman got a gold tooth, and I had her and her husband come on the platform, and I said to her husband, “Are you sure she didn’t have a gold tooth before?” And he’s kind of very tight with money. It was so funny. He said, “I’d never pay for a gold tooth.” Okay, so you’re in this new place, and I mean, you really didn’t even have a grid for these things to happen.

 

JEFF: You know, there’s no precedence for it in the Scripture. I mean, where do you find gold teeth in the Scripture? But it’s not about gold teeth. The ministry of signs and wonders just began to automatically happen. Signs and wonders happen. “These attesting signs [follow them] that believe,” Mark 16:17. Signs and wonders are normal and natural. Jesus moved in signs and wonders. He had Peter go down to the Sea of Galilee. “The first fish you take out pull a coin out its mouth.” He moved in odd, different kinds of ways.

 

SID: You call it radical anointings, and is this what you mean that Acts 2 is talking about when the “Spirit of God is coming on all flesh?”

 

JEFF: Yes, absolutely. It says, Acts 2:17, “I will pour out my spirit upon all mankind. Your sons and your daughters will prophesy.” So automatically signs and wonders, they start prophesy. And then it says, “I’ll show signs in the heavens and on the earth with these prophetic people as an outpouring happens.” And the end result is, Verse 21, for Acts 2:21, for 2021, is, “It will come to pass in that day that whosoever will call upon the name of the Lord will be saved.”

 

SID: Wait a second. Whosever will be saved, but what you said that most people miss is that God is pouring his spirit on all flesh.

 

JEFF: All flesh. That’s why everybody can do it. That’s why you’re feeling the presence of the Holy Spirit right now. You’re feeling it right now. I feel the draw right now. Some of you are saying, you know what, it’s not just for Jeff Jansen, it’s not just for Sid Roth, it’s for me as well. God is going to pour out his spirit upon all flesh. You can move prophetically through the outpouring of the Holy Spirit. The end result is signs and wonders happen, and it will come to pass that when this generation moves in signs, wonders and miracles, which I believe is this last day’s generation, “Whosoever in that day will call upon the name of the Lord will be saved.”

 

SID: That word “saved” in the Greek means healed, delivered.

 

JEFF: That’s right, “sozo”.

 

SID: Intimacy with God. And you know what, someone like Jeff, years, years seeking God, it’s going to be like, boom.

 

JEFF: Instantaneous.

 

SID: Instant.

 

JEFF: Instantaneous.

 

SID: Okay, tell me, because this is so critical for you, the key for moving in the Glory.

 

JEFF: Every time I had a visitation, Sid, moving in the Glory of God, is because I was pressing in. I was worshiping.

 

SID: You’re a song leader. Come on now, it’s easy for you to worship God in song, but how about me? I can’t carry a tune.

 

JEFF: Worship is not about singing a song. Worship is not about how well you sing. Worship is an attitude and a posture of heart.

 

SID: In other words, it doesn’t even have anything to do with singing.

 

JEFF: It has nothing to do with singing.

 

SID: That’s why I wanted you to hear.

 

JEFF: It’s the posture of the heart. You present yourself before the Lord. You give yourself to God. That’s worship. That’s worship. And those that do that, I’m telling you what, the Scripture says this: “You O Lord are enthroned upon the praises of your people.” When we praise, when we give him our heart the throne comes down, and where the throne is, the king is. Where the king is there’s a government. Where the government is there’s the angelic realm. His government rests down upon the praising, worshiping saint.

 

SID: So you’re saying that when we worship it literally creates an avenue, it creates that ladder to Heaven.

 

JEFF: Exactly.

 

SID: That’s Jacob’s angels coming up. That’s what’s happening when we are worshippers.

 

JEFF: That’s exactly right. I’ll share a quick little story. I was in Tanzania a while back doing a campaign, and there were 80,000 people on the last night.

 

SID: Little campaign.

 

JEFF: Little campaign, 80,000 people there. Most of them were Muslim and the Lord said, “Jeff, you get these people to shout praises to me and I will do great miracles.” My job was at being a cheerleader, getting the people to shout praises to Jesus Christ in Tanzania. And when we shouted the Glory of God came down, instantaneous miracles, mass deliverance. People were dropping all over the field because of the power of God. The Lord said, “You just get them to praise me and I’ll heal them.” And they got healed, the Glory of God fell on them, they got healed and then they got saved.

 

SID: I have to tell you, I read about what happened to you in Tanzania and about the shell. In my last two meetings I had people shout and the same thing happened. There’s a power in the shout. But I want you to nail what worship is right now, with the people.

 

JEFF: Worship is not about how you sing. It’s not about how well you sing. Worship is an attitude of the heart. You know, the Scripture says that “God is the rewarder of those who diligently and hotly pursue him.” I tell you what, if you make the Lord your pursuit, if you make the Lord your first priority he will come upon you, he will come after you. You think you’re going after God, he is hunting you down. And I believe that God is looking to hunt you down. You’re hungry right now. Worship is key to just receiving everything that God has for you and it’s not about singing, it’s about your heart. So right now just give your hearts to the Lord. “Set your affections on things above,” the Scripture says, “Set your heart on the Lord. Set your affections on him.” When you do that he will answer you. There is an impartation that God will give to everybody, and even now an impartation to you as you’re listening to what I’m telling you right now.

 

SID: I’m going to tell you what I know. I’m just in the presence of God as Jeff is speaking. I’m hearing words of knowledge, people. But there are going to be so many people healed, but I want Jeff to pray an impartation over your life to be hungry for God and receive the Glory of God, which he does all the time on media, and it goes right to the set or the computer. Be right back.

SID: Hello. Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. What would cause a man that has seen thousands of miracles under his ministry, whose mother was actually healed at a Kathryn Kuhlman service, kind of raised with Oral Roberts, Kathryn Kuhlman, a diet of that. When he gets life-threatening cancer, to resort to the best prayer he knows and the best medicine he knows rather than just prayer alone. I’m going to ask Pastor Rod Parsley why in just a moment. Now Pastor Rod has been ministering for four decades. He pastors one of the most dynamic ministries in the country. And many years ago at the age of 27, he had an open vision, and I have to believe that when you went through what you just went through that no one should have to do it.

ROD: Yes.

SID: You were reminded of that vision.

ROD: I was, Sid. First of all, thanks for having me. I like to be right in the middle of things that are supernatural and I know that you do as well. In 1984, when I was standing on the platform of our church and the entire back wall of the sanctuary, we call it a tabernacle, disappeared. Suddenly I saw a scene play out before my very eyes. It was more real than the camera I’m looking at right now, and God entered that scene. I saw what I recognized to be the presence of Satan himself. As my eyes went upward I saw a crown upon his head. The skyline of that crown was my home city, Columbus, Ohio, twinkling like stars in the heaven where the lights in the buildings wrapped around his head. And suddenly a sword appeared. It made three revolutions, smote the enemy against the back of his knees. He fell over to the side and that crown rolled off his head, and suddenly as if you would zip a zipper, it was gone. The back wall was back and I began to shout out of my spirit, I began to shout, “I’m brave enough, I’m strong enough to pick up that crown and place it on the head of our savior.” Well now at 60, God said I’m about to enter, “You’re about to enter your third phase of Gospel ministry. I’m going to place a seven times greater anointing on you for healing, deliverance and salvation of the people of God.” And I said, “I’ll take it.”

SID: Your voice was tried to silence, but you I heard you say something good. I heard you say that now it’s seven times the anointing on your voice.

ROD: Amen.

SID: Seven times.

ROD: Amen. I’m going to reach seven times more people. It’s going to reach seven times more souls for the Kingdom, seven times more healings, seven times more demonstration of signs and wonders, and miracles.

SID: Now I’m going to take you back and I want you to tell me what happened. It was the month of June 2015.

ROD: Yes.

SID: You were shocked to your core. What happened?

ROD: I was. I had a little bit of a sore throat, which when you live in Ohio and you’re baptized in pollen several times a year, you know. So my general practitioner, he said, “Well I don’t see anything, but this has been going on long enough, I think we need to have you scoped.” So I saw the surgeon and he said, “Yes, there’s something there.” And he scheduled an appointment to go ahead and have vocal chord surgery. Well I called my team together and my precious wife Joni got in the middle of that meeting and produced a little piece of paper. She said, “God spoke to me that the enemy was going to attack your voice with cancer.” Yes.

SID: And so she probably didn’t want to tell you because she didn’t want to put power behind it.

ROD: No she didn’t, exactly. So she didn’t tell me. She began to pray. She said, “But now that I’ve seen this manifest, you are not,” she gave me a word of knowledge, “you are not to have surgery.” And I found out later had I had that surgery my vocal chords in all probability would have been irreversibly damaged and I probably never would have preached again.

SID: So from now on you’re going to listen to your wife.

ROD: I’m going to listen to her. Happy wife, happy life.

SID: Now there are many people that would say, well that’s a lack of faith to have medicine and prayer. What would you say to them?

ROD: I would say this: God the Holy Spirit, I believe that every good thing comes from our Father. I believe that, Sid, with all my heart. I do not believe that God gives people sickness and disease to teach them. However, I do believe that in the process we are all taught.

SID: Now you told me that you knew instantly this wasn’t something natural, this was demonic.

ROD: Yes.

SID: It was the devil.

ROD: Absolutely.

SID: So what was your strategy?

ROD: Well I’ve always believed that we need to treat sickness and disease, and shake it like a rat terrier shakes a mouse, that we should treat it like a rattle snake in the floor board of our automobile. It’s not of God. It’s not of God’s Kingdom. We live in a cursed planet. When our son Austin, our only son, was three years of age we received the diagnosis of a life sentence, autism. He was to never go to school, never read a book. My wife and I pulled the van over to the side of the highway and we said, “God, what do you want us to do?” And he said, “You know what to do. Get my Word on it. Attack it spiritually. Attack it in the natural and attack it with a seed.” And I said, “I’m going to do all three.” And my son just graduated from college with a 4.0 grade point average. Now when I was attacked, all of those naysayers started eating at me, and some of you have had, in fact, I’m speaking to hundreds right now who have had a diagnosis and you feel like it is a lack of faith for you to take a medication, for you to see a doctor. Let me tell you what to do. Do what I did. Attack it every way you can. When you are in the middle of the battle and the enemy of your soul is threatening to take away the multitude of souls that are in for God’s Kingdom, the thousands of people that will be healed today as we pray together, when he wants to stop all that, when he’s coming in the trenches after you, grab whatever weapon is at your disposal. The important thing is give all the glory to God because he’s going to bring you out.

SID: I like that. Now you did, you attacked, if you can just briefly tell me the four things you did, and I might add, you are still doing.

ROD: I’m still doing. Sid, God spoke to me, Proverbs 4:20 was the first scripture that he gave me when I received that diagnosis. Proverbs 4:20: “My son, I’m his. He identifies with me.” The Lord Jesus identifies with you when he taught you to pray “Our Father”. He’s not just Jesus’s Father, he’s your Father. Our Father. “My son, attend to my words. Incline your ear to my sayings for they are life to you.” And I studied that out. It actually says they are medicine to all your flesh. And God said to me, “You take it and you take it twice a day for two hours in the morning and two hours in the evening. You speak my Word.” And then he said, “Get a prayer cloth. Touch and agree.” If any two on Earth agree, as we’re going to do in just a few moments with you, touching anything that we shall ask, it shall be done for us by our Father which is in Heaven. Number three: receive Holy Communion every single day. Remember that Christ is in you and you are in him, as he is in the Father, and the Father is in him. And number four: use the Jehovah names of God. Seven times greater anointing is going to be released to you this very day. In fact, I speak to you now under the authority of the Lord Jesus Christ, and I say to every cancer cell to die in your body now and for a living life giving cell to replace it. I command that you have no negative side effects from any treatment or medication, or supplement that may be given to you. I stand before you now, sitting here in this chair. They did 28 radiation treatments. My throat had third degree burns inside and outside.

SID: How many side effects did you have?

ROD: Zero.

SID: That’s what I thought.

ROD: Zero. I rebuke those side effects from chemotherapy. I rebuke the side effects of radiation treatment. I declare and decree by the power of the Word of God that his holy anointing breaks through to you now and sets you free, spirit, soul and body.

SID: What was the final report on that horrific life-threatening cancer that you had?
ROD: Absolutely cancer-free.

SID: Wow! We’ll be right back with Pastor Rod Parsley and a message that had he not been healed you would never hear.

SID: Art, you talk about a lot about mental barriers. Give us some examples.

 

ART: Yes. I mean, we already talked about the hope deferred thing that happens to so many of us. Another one is judging people based on their merit, and that could be in the positive or the negative, you know. Sometimes we come at this saying, you know, Lord, this person has been so faithful. They’ve loved you so many years. There’s such a faithful minister, whatever. What we’re really doing is saying, God, don’t you see all the wonderful things they did to earn their healing? And our emphasis is all on their action and not Jesus’s action. It also works in the negative. It’s like with your family, it’s a lot harder.

 

SID: You know they’re backslidden. So you say, you’ve never healed them.

 

ART: Yes. If I’m on the street and someone says to me, I got diabetes, I’m like, come on, diabetes, get out, pancreas, function well, right. When your loved one that you know and you know their lifestyle says I got diabetes, you’re thinking, lay off the Twinkies, man, it’s your own fault. Right? Yeah.

 

SID: So what should I, all right, you know that let’s suppose you know someone’s even in sin. You know that. How does it affect how you pray?

 

ART: Well it’s not about me. It’s not about them. See, James 5 says that, “The prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well. The Lord will raise him up. If he sinned he’ll be forgiven.” So there’s a provision there. If their sickness came as a result of sin, the forgiveness is automatic. It happens right away.

 

SID: Now many people say it’s a lack of faith if you go to a doctor. It’s a lack of faith if you take medicine. What do you say?

 

ART: Well first of all, the irony is if I don’t believe it’s God’s will to heal, then why am I going to the doctor? That’s fighting against God’s will. So medicine is only going to work with a theology that says God wants me well.

 

SID: What do I say to the people that write me often, maybe it’s you, okay, you believe in healing, Sid. Why do you wear glasses?

 

ART: You know, my experience should not trump what the scripture says. So you know, we can make a theology out of the things we haven’t seen or we can make a theology out of Jesus who perfectly revealed the Father. And I think that makes a lot more sense. So like I said, I was struggling with degenerative disk disease for a year and a half watching other people get healed until I had my own miracle. What I say is, listen, what I’m telling you, what I’m believing, what I’m preaching is what the Word of God says regardless of my experience. I refuse to be a disciple of disappointment because then I can only reproduce disappointment. I have to be a disciple of Jesus so that I can reproduce Jesus.

 

SID: I want you to reach deep and pray whatever the Spirit of God tells you.

 

ART: Right now I’m seeing a picture of a right arm, and I’m actually, there’s a green sleeve around it. I’m not sure if that means anything to someone who’s watching right now. But whatever it is that’s going on with your right arm, I speak life and wholeness to it right now in Jesus’ name. And just try to move that, see if anything’s changed. Yes, I’m also hearing, hearing loss, specifically left ear, but really, Jesus paid the price for both ears. So if you’ve got hearing loss of any kind I tell those ears to open up right now in Jesus’ name. Throat conditions, in fact, there’s like a throat cancer, throat, some sort of laryngitis or something, things that are going on in the throat. We tell those things to stop. Thyroid, there’s like a nodule on someone’s thyroid that’s been swollen up and we tell that to shrivel up right now. Peace to you in Jesus’ name. If anyone has Crohn’s disease like I used to have, we tell Crohn’s to get out and never come back. I speak peace to your digestive system right now. Every sickness, every disease, every spirit of infirmity, I tell you to leave and never come back in the name of Jesus. Now if you can safely do it, test out those conditions. Try to do something you couldn’t do and let us know what happens.

 

SID: Well I’m going to tell you what’s going to happen. You are going to not look back anymore. I can tell you that it’s a new beginning for you. God is pure love and he wants you to know him, know him, and have Jesus come inside of you and be your Lord, and say, Lord, I want to have experiential knowledge of you in Jesus’ name. Amen.