Sid: I have a woman that no doubt if you’ve been listening all this week her name is Margy Palm and I’m speaking to her at her home in San Antonio, Texas.  And on December 11, 1981 she was praying a lot and felt directed by God to go to a K-mart a place that she normally did not frequent. And she went there and unbeknownst to her a man was waiting for her this man was on the FBI 10 Most Wanted List. He had brutally raped and murdered over 30 women and one just a few hours before that all had her exact profile. He puts the gun on her she gets in the car and all of a sudden she sees scriptures before her eyes that assured she’ll be okay even though this man is acting and talking crazy.  And she doesn’t know how bad the situation is but she knows that it’s bad and she  sees a vision in front of her of her praying for this man. So she takes her hands…she’s sitting on her hands from under her lays them on this man and starts praying for him.  And he says “Oh my God I have a religious fanatic in the car” and she and then what happened next?

Margy: You know as I said I have my hands under me and he said “Lady you can take your hands out. And you know previous to that he said “If you try to even get out of the car I’ll kill you.” And I mean while I was praying this prayer over him he had that gun jabbing in me and he put the gun kind of between us and he said “I don’t know why but I think I want to talk to you.” And I think you know he told me later that he was amazed that I wasn’t trying to get out of the car. Well I was amazed also that I had so much peace. And but I knew that it was the Lord I knew his power was in the car I mean you could really feel His power in there. And any way he tried a few times to tell me a few things about himself and I wouldn’t let him. He said “You just don’t know who I am I…

Sid: Why wouldn’t you let him?

Margy: I thought it would if he started telling me what he did it might bring fear I might start you know hearing things that would scare me and I didn’t want to yield myself to fear. I wanted that’s how I felt at the time I just I didn’t want to hear something that’s going to scare me. And really I actually couldn’t think even I mean he committed a crime obviously and he obviously killed someone but I never in my wildest dreams dreamed he was a serial rapist. And thank God I kept stopping him from because I said “I really don’t want to know what you’ve done that’s not why God’s put me in the car with you I feel like God put me in the car to show you His love and His mercy. Because I kept hearing that over and over all day His mercy endures forever I kept that thought that thought just kept coming into my spirit all day “My mercy endures forever.” And I said “God loves you and God cares about you or I wouldn’t be in the car with you.” And he said “There’s no God that loves me lady you have no idea who I am and he said “I am a very evil man and I’ve done so many bad things no God is going to forgive me if there is a God I don’t even believe that there is a God and if there is He’s not going to forgive me.” And I said “Well my God has forgiven you or I mean He wouldn’t put me in this car with you if He didn’t care about you and love you.” And I started and for a couple of weeks before I even got in the car I had been praying that God would teach me what His love was what the love of God was because I read scriptures that says a scripture that says “Without faith it is impossible to please Him” And but then it ways “Faith without love you know fails without the love of God you’re nothing.” And you know faith works by love and love never fails. So I was starting to realize that I was having this overwhelming compassion when I would look at this man.  And I thought “Why do I care about this man?” And I thought “Oh my gosh this is what the love of God is.”

Sid: How did he look by the way was he disheveled, was he very meticulous?

Margy: Disheveled his hair was greasy and long and he was dressed in black and he was extremely scary looking.  He looked like a character out of a TV show and that’s what was amazing me that I wasn’t frightened of him that I actually was feeling compassion toward this man because he was also saying some absolutely horrible words to me and in the car.

Sid: And you’re feeling love and compassion.

Margy: I’m feeling love for this man that was just being obnoxious but at the same time He said “I feel like I want to talk to you.” And of course when he would say that I’m not saying it like he said it I mean he said a lot of colorful things in there when he would make statements like that. And I said “Well you know let’s go somewhere and talk.” And so we talked there in the parking lot there for a little while and then he drove my car and he was in the drivers seat he drove it through the drive-thru and got something to drink. And then he said “I want you to take me to a place that is secluded but not too secluded I want people to be walking around so it doesn’t look strange that we’re just sitting there you know I want you to take me maybe by a convenient store or something like that. So we ended up sitting by a convenient store in front of a middle school in the middle of a neighborhood San Antonio. He abducted me at 2:00 in the afternoon and we talked the whole afternoon. There were helicopters actually circling San Antonio looking for this guy. There were people I knew that later told me that there were police going up and down the neighborhoods telling woman to get into their home because this guy was out on the loose. And here I am sitting with him in this car. He said to me this one statement that was really surprising me because I never dreamed I was in the car with a rapist. But he said “I don’t know why lady but I don’t feel like raping you.” And I thought “Rape.” What in the wor…who is this you know I thought rape? He said “I don’t know why but I feel more love from you than any person I’ve ever known in my life who are you and why aren’t you afraid of me or are you an angel I mean I don’t understand who are you?”

Sid: You must have been the only woman he ever abducted that didn’t show great fear.

Margy: Yeah yeah that’s true he could not understand why I wasn’t screaming and believe me he didn’t understand why I wasn’t pleading to get out of the car saying “My…wanting to get back to my kids and all of that.” And I was amazed myself, I was totally amazed at how I felt and the peace that was in me and I said “Listen I’m not an angel just ask my husband sometime I’m not an angel.”  But I said “Jesus is not going to appear to you unless it’s a phenomenon but he appears through His people and He lives inside of me.” And he said “His love in me is to powerful for your hatred.” And I said and the Bible says “There’s no fear in love, perfect love casts out fear” and you’re being confronted with this love and it’s too powerful for you.” And I mean I make these statements and I think “Where did that come from it was just the Holy Spirit was just anointing me to talk.” And many many times during the day he would say “I’m going to kill myself and I’m not going to be able to let you go even though you’re the nicest lady I’ve ever met.” And he would also say “There’s no God that’s going to forgive me lady I’m too bad I hate myself.” And I you know I’d reassure him over and over I said “My God loves you.”

Sid: Margy we’re out of time today we’ll pick up right here on tomorrow’s broadcast.