Sid: We want everyone everywhere to be red hot for, red hot, red hot in the Messiah. And you know on yesterday’s broadcast because I never had anyone do that but my guest Dr. Paul Cox. I’m speaking to him at his office in Apple Valley, California he’s from Asland’s Place Ministry. He said “I see an angel and the angel is giving you a message.” And I waited a little while because I was waiting for a whole message. But I heard specific words and you know Paul at the start of this broadcast I heard the same word. I heard the same word that I heard on yesterday’s broadcast, I heard head. And I believe that and now I’m hearing back, and now I’m hearing hip. And now I’m hearing hold which means stop. (Laughing) On radio that’s very difficult Paul. But people are being healed in those 3 areas of their body right now. Especially the backs are being healed right now. I almost feel like if you’ll start moving your shoulders the pain, the arthritic pain you had in your shoulder area and your neck if you move your head. It’s flowing like a river right now, the words of knowledge. Paul, you were going to teach on something that so intrigues me, it’s what the Book of Hebrews talks about entering into the Shabbat or Sabbath rest that’s way beyond words. For those perhaps listening for the first time explain that.
Dr. Paul L. Cox: I was remembering Jesus in Matthew 11:28 says “Come to me all of you who are weary and burdened and I will give you rest.” And then Hebrew Chapter 4 verse 4 the writer says “For He has spoken in a certain place of the 7th day and this way and God rest on the 7th day from all of his works. And again in this place “They shall not enter my rest, since therefore remains that some must enter it. And to those whom it was first preached did not enter because of their disobedience.” And then it goes on and says verse 9 “There remains therefore a rest for the people of God, for he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His.” And I love that verse because it says “We have ceased from our works.” Of course we can’t do anything, we are to cease thinking that we can do anything. And that’s what happens when we enter into that rest, we enter into that place of amazing peace and rest where we are totally yielded to the Lord Jesus and to His power and will.
Sid: Now explain what’s happened at churches where this has occurred while you’ve been preaching.
Dr. Paul L. Cox: Many years ago the Lord gave me a sermon on the glory of God and it was based on that passage of Exodus where Moses said “Lord, show me Your glory.” And then the Lord started to teach me about the Cherubim and I can feel the Cherubim. I can feel remember they have 4 heads and I can feel heads rotating. So I knew if I woke up on a Sunday morning and I felt the heads turning I was supposed to speak on the glory of God. And when I….
Sid: How do you feel the heads turning, I don’t understand that.
Dr. Paul L. Cox: On my head I actually feel like there is a wheel on my head turning.
Sid: And is it normally on your head or could you feel it on your shoulder or arm.?
Dr. Paul L. Cox: Well different people feel it in different ways, we learned that in discernment.
Sid: Now I’ve felt things on my head a number of times.
Dr. Paul L. Cox: Ah huh.
Sid: I’ve felt even tapping on my head different times.
Dr. Paul L. Cox: That’d be discernment.
Sid: What does tapping mean though?
Dr. Paul L. Cox: I wouldn’t know unless I’d stand next to you and tell you what I’m feeling and then I could interpret what’s happening with you.
Sid: Hmm, so continue please.
Dr. Paul L. Cox: Yes, the Lord is showing us in Ezekiel 1 and Ezekiel 10 that when a cherubim show up there’s movement. In Ezekiel in chapter 1 the power of God comes on him and he stands up. And in Ezekiel 10 he’s actually moved to a different place. I started understanding that when the cherubim are present there is movement. And then as I was preaching at the end of last year in a church. I speak on the glory of God, we started feeling that movement but instead of us experiencing on the power of God like we usually do when we ask for His glory to come people started laying down in the aisles. And I realized that the Lord was moving me to something different. And that was into a time of us experiencing His rest. And we’ve seen that many times on the glory of God under the cherubim that the Lord moves us into His rest. And it’s actually the Lord is taking us up into a heavenly place. Do you remember in Ephesians the Bible says that “We are seated with Christ in heavenly places?” And I believe that there are these places of rest where we have total freedom from anxiety and from the pressures of life. We simple enjoy being in intimacy with the Lord.
Sid: I mean I can’t think of anything better than believers being able to walk in this Shabbat Sabbath rest. And today is the beginning of Shabbat Friday night. But it’s not just on Shabbat I believe that God wants us to move into this rest 7 days a week 24 hours a day.
Dr. Paul L. Cox: I believe that this is the rest the Lord has for us. And it is what the world is looking for. It is why people get into addictive behavior why they get into the excessive compulsive activities because they are looking for a place of rest. Some place where you get free from the enormous pressures that life brings and Jesus has the answer. Everybody else is trying to come in through the side door trying to sneak into that place of rest. But literally Jesus is the only door, the only way to enter into the rest.
Sid: Now do you have to hear to say I pray that you move into this rest, or does it just happen, or do you have to pray it?
Dr. Paul L. Cox: I’m not sure how it happens, the Lord obviously has to do that. I’m trying to discern right now and I believe I’m feeling the cherubim right now which would be an indication to me that maybe the Lord wants us by faith to try this. I guess we don’t know until we try.
Sid: Lets go, let’s go for it.
Dr. Paul L. Cox: Father I praise your name Lord Jesus, I exalt You Holy Spirit. We worship You. We declare that You are the true and the living God. And we ask You now Lord that miraculously by Your power alone that You will move us into this place of rest. Lord, would You take us up into the heavenly places that we can experience the rest of the people of God. And Father I pray for every person listening, I pray for Sid and for those in his staff that everyone of us would now enter into that place of rest. That we might understand what You have for us. And not only what You have for us but what You have for our family and friends, for those that do not know you Lord that we can come with the good news of the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ that there is a place of rest for those that belong to the Lord. And Lord would You take us up now into that place? Now Sid as I indicated to you in a previous program there’s 2 tests that I know worked whether or not we’re in that place. The first test is “Can you worry about anything right now?” If you cannot then you’ve entered into that place. The second test I’m aware of “Can you be jealous or envious of anybody else and their gifting’s?” Where I believe in this place of rest I believe is a place of true unity in the Body of Christ.
Sid: If we don’t have this rest we’re not going to have true unity.
Dr. Paul L. Cox: No, we will not.
Sid: And isn’t this also moving into union with the Lord?
Dr. Paul L. Cox: Absolutely, this is I believe a key to true intimacy with the Lord.
Sid: And this is what the world… but the world is trying the counterfeit but believers are trying religion. What does someone do if they’re in a church that just same old same old? Should they just keep going and just keep praying and believing or… I mean there are so many people dissatisfied with same old same old.
Dr. Paul L. Cox: Well I believe that first of all that you would not be divisive in that church. Second of all that you’d pray and ask the Lord’s direction. As an American Baptist I came to understand the Lord really does want to be Lord of His church. And He wants to be Lord of the individuals in His church. And we need to operate in a stance of what I call radical obedience to the Lord. With that obedience would never contradict scripture and the Lord holds unity and lack of division very high. I’m reminded right now that even David wouldn’t come against Saul even though Saul was a disobedient king. Because he would not rise up against God’s anointed. So unity is incredibly important and so is obedience. So we must be obedient to what the Lord calls us to do.
Sid: Well we didn’t talk too much about generational curses and this is a very important aspect of your ministry.
Dr. Paul L. Cox: Yeah.
