Sid: Guess what, my guest in the studio his name is Jose Santana and the Spirit of God has just descended in this studio and I am expecting the miraculous. Don’t you dare touch that dial, stay right where you are. In my studio is Jose Santana he is a New Covenant Prophet, he’s from the Rochester, New York area. He’s an apostle, he works with backslidden pastors. God has entrusted him with a wonderful gift of prophesy. Most people I know merchandise their gift in the wrong way. Because they live an unholy life they don’t even have the gift it comes out as mixture and it’s a stench in the eyes of a holy God. Jose how do you protect your gift; you have a wonderful gift; I mean how do you protect it? People probably put you on platforms; they’ll do anything for you. “Give me a word, give me a word.” That must be what everyone says to you that meet you; how do you protect the gift from being cynical, from not walking a holy life?
Jose: Well, I protect it by first honoring the one that gave me the gift the Lord Jesus Christ. And when He gave me the gift I asked the Lord “I will never ever forget who is in control of this gift, it’s You.” What was the reason that I asked for the gift was to serve the body of Christ to be a blessing to other. I’m one of the least of the least of all the saints, this gift was given to me so that I could serve the Body.
Sid: Now tell me the circumstances as to what was going on in your life when the gift really started developing. Were you praying for this gift?
Jose: Yes Sir; I was praying about 2 ½ – 3 years because people would come to the church and say “And God spoke to me; and God showed me this.” And I said “Lord would You consider, speaking to me; would You consider…”
Sid: Did you really talk to Him that way, “Would you consider?”
Jose: Yes.
Sid: That really is a respect there.
Jose: And He gave me the scripture of 2nd Corinthians 2:9 that declare that “Eye have not seen and ears have not heard.” So I went to bed with that scripture and I said “Lord if I have not seen; open my eyes that I may see; and if ears have not heard speak to your servant that I may hear You.” And I went 2 maybe 3 years with that scripture and one day I’m walking in the church and I see a brother with his whole body almost dying, that the enemy has thrown some darts. He was not using the shield of faith. And I said “Oh, Lord what is this all about?” And He explained and that was the first time I had ever seen in the spirit.
Sid: Alright, you saw that.
Jose: Yes
Sid: And what did you do about it?
Jose: Yes, I was so overwhelmed and I went to pray and I said “Lord why are you showing me this thing?’ And He told me “Tell My people that they must use the shield of faith because they are in war with Satan.” I warned them.
Sid: And there are so many people listening to us right now and they have so many fears and they have these darts that have been coming at them. And what they have to learn is not just that shield of faith to knock it down but they have to have a sword to give the demon behind that thought the business. And the sword is speaking the Word.
Jose: Speaking the Word; Amen.
Sid: Do you ever sometimes concern about the gift that you have? Or worried that when God gives you a Word… I assume that you have good Words but you have also assume you have very negative Words. Do you ever see people sins?
Jose: Absolutely, a lot of times we have an encounter with the prophetic and the Holy Ghost is moving so powerful and the Lord is giving me good words. And I could hear the thoughts of the people when they’re going back to the seats and they were said “Ah, Lord this man of God has the wrong person Lord” I hear every thought so I have to call them back out of the chair and say “How come you told the Lord that I have the wrong person?” And usually 99% they cover their mouth and they repent because it’s the anointing of God. The Spirit of God searches the deep things of God.
Sid: Jose, can this gift that you have operate at will whenever you want it to operate?
Jose: No, it only has the Holy Spirit of God release, I could not see unless He allows me to see. I cannot hear only if He’s speaking to me, it’s only by His doing.
Sid: So tell me, what would happen if the next 5 prophetic words you gave the people came back and said “Jose you said I was going to have a child. I didn’t have a child. Jose they all turned out to be wrong; what would you do?”
Jose: Well, that would bring to examine myself because then I was operating in the flesh. Like I got a friend and he’s a pastor and we went to his kitchen and there was a whole lot of people there and the Holy Spirit spoke to me “Tell my daughter the next year at God’s appointed time of birth she will have a baby boy and the baby boy will be a pastor.” And I’m not thinking about none of these things but when He speaks, I recognize His voice. And that is the only way I speak, when He speaks to me.
Sid: I’ve noticed Mishpochah because I’ve asked him things and he won’t answer. He’ll say “I’ll tell you what the Bible says” but he won’t answer but I’ll tell you what God said. But I actually question and maybe I’m going to get in trouble now Jose I question those that can prophesy at will. I believe it’s as the Spirit of God wills.
Jose: It is very dangerous because what happens people will prophesy out of will they have a tendency of tapping into a familiar spirit. And that’s not of God that’s of the other guy.
Sid: And that’s a very scary thing.
Jose: Oh yes it is.
Sid: Because they’re intent could have been honorable and they could be deceived.
Jose: Right, they crossed the border.
Sid: And that’s happened unfortunately to a lot of people. You must have a great deal of insight on how all of us that perhaps are not prophets but we can all prophesy on how we can hear God better. Because as far as I’m concerned if someone has tasted the goodness of God the only thing that counts in their life is to hear God and be obedient to God plus nothing.
Jose: I’m so excited that you asked me that question. I do seminars of the prophetic but I share with people how they can keep the spiritual pump primed. And they go “What are you talking about.” I said “I see you driving a car and going from Georgia to the Carolina and all of a sudden the Lord put a thought on your heart to call a friend that you haven’t spoken in 3 months. And you go I will do that later, wrong if you train yourself to park your car and make a phone call at that time God will put words. God will use you as an instrument just as you avail yourself.”
Sid: What if you wait a day.
Jose: It might be too late; let me give you an example of when I first started to operate in the gift we were invited to a company party. I just sat in the seat and the Holy Spirit spoke to me and said “Get out of there and go to your brother.” So I told my wife “We have to go.” She says “Why, we just came.” “We have to go if you don’t go with me I’m leaving you behind. So she said “Let’s go.” So we go to my brother and I knock at his door and we waited 8 minutes and then he put the light and he came down. So my brother’s name if Tony, so I said “Tony, are you okay.” He said “He said “Yes.” The third time he told me “I was this close of killing myself.”
Sid: Hmm.
Jose: So, of my obedience his life was saved.
Sid: And you know what God says “If I can trust you in little things; I can trust you in big things.
Jose: Hmm.
Sid: And what happens to me I’ll get faked out and I’ll say many times, that’s my thought, that’s not God. But I also know it’s God. In the past I got faked out, I’m not going to get faked out now
Jose: Amen.
Sid: But many of us do.
Jose: Yes.
Sid: Jose we’ve just really met and I was telling you in my office before we started this interview that God has entrusted to me a very very precious vision. I’ve labeled it what Paul called it “The One New Man.” Because in Ephesians he said “The reason that Jesus came was to break down the wall of separation between Jews and Gentiles to form One New Man.” Or we might paraphrase that as “The complete body of the Messiah.” Because the Jew that believes in Jesus without the Gentle that believes in Jesus is incomplete. The Gentle that believes in Jesus without the Jew that believes in Jesus is incomplete. And I was explaining in the office I’ve been to many reconciliation meetings between let’s say black and white Christians. And it’s what I call a 24 hour wonder; they’ll even go so far as washing feet. But at the end of 24 hours the black pastors go back to their black churches and the white pastors go back to their white churches and nothing changes. Could it be Jose that because we haven’t approached the foundational sin, the rift between Jews and Gentiles, we can never address the other sins the rifts between races and all the other differences in theology and all of these other differences? And so God has entrusted this One New Man. I got such a revelation the other day. I found out that where it talks about New Covenant and it’s prophesied in the Old Testament in Hebrew and in the New Testament in English. The word new which means never existed before is a mistranslated. The word really is renew.
Jose: Amen.
Sid: Meaning that you take the scriptures in the Old Testament and you don’t throw them out. You take the festivals in the Old Covenant and you don’t toss them out. You renew them with the meaning of Messiah who has come and rose from the dead. And I’m seeing that this is… the definition of insanity Jose is to keep doing the same thing the same way and expect different results.
Jose: That’s right.
Sid: It’s insane; well I believe that when the church understands this renewed covenant and we need money in this ministry to get this word out. I’m calling this week for those to plant a seed in this ministry; maybe you’ve never sent to any ministry ever before. I bless you with Genesis 12:3.
