Sid: I want everywhere to know the Messiah and my guest is going to help you be discipled.  Because he has a translation of the New Testament with what I consider the freshest most alive translation I have read in a long, long time.  It’s almost like reading the New Testament for the first time. He calls it “The Power New Testament.”  He’s put  put together a couple of things in this translation because he’s not only a Hebrew scholar but he is a Greek scholar.  But he’s put together in this special translation his understanding of Jewish roots. But his understanding of the action words that were in the Hebrew language in the Jewish people where the first church were all Jewish believers and they were using these action words and they were using these action tenses.  And when you read this the reason that he calls it “The Power New Testament” is because that power is recaptured. I tell you the Holy Spirit will just come alive within you and understanding healing.  But somehow these Jewish roots and his Greek scholarship and his Hebrew scholarship it’s like a fresh reading of the New Testament.  Now there is a scripture and I’m speaking to the translator William Morford at his home in Lexington, South Carolina.  There’s a passage in the New Testament that I wrestle with and I image that everyone listening to us has wrestled with this and I’d like to get your understanding from a Jewish roots perspective and a power perspective. And it’s got to do with Matthew 5:17.Would you read that in your translation?

Bill:    “Do not think that I came to annul, to bring and incorrect in interpretation to the Torah or the Prophets; I did not come to annul but to bring spiritual abundance. For the Torah to be obeyed as it should be and for God’s promises to receive fulfillment. For truly I say to you; until the sky and the earth would pass away not one yod or one vav would ever pass away from the Torah, until everything would come to pass.”

Sid: And Bill the way you translated it it’s not a matter of salvation, it’s not a salvation issue, but it’s a matter of spiritual abundance. A matter of blessings and as a matter of fact there is another word you translate instead of saying law you say Torah. And when I see the word law I think of legalism, bondage.  But I have to tell you coming from a Jewish background which I do when I see the word Torah, which is the first 5 books of the Old Testament, I think of legalistic and bondage. But when you explain what the word Torah really means it takes on a whole new meaning. In your footnotes what does Torah mean?

Bill:  Torah actually means teaching or instruction.  And we have to view those commandments in there as the Lord teaching us.  He knows us because He made us and He made us in His image. He understands us totally.

Sid: You know the word instructions I’m almost thinking rather than Torah, rather than law, I’d much rather have the word instructions there.

Bill:  (Laughing)

Sid: There because to me that gives it much more meaning. In fact I’m toying… you and I are talking about putting together an Old and New Covenant, this is just a New Covenant.  And when we did… and I haven’t said this to you but I’d almost like to call it “The Book of Instructions.”  How does that sound to you?

Bill:  Oh, that sounds good it really does.

Sid: Well, I’d like you teach a little bit of some of these insights that you got from Eliezer Ben-Yehuda and from other studies that you just packed into “The Power New Testament.”

Bill:  Yeah, Eli was really spectacular just unbelievable.  To go to a Jewish Rabbi, which I went to him because he was the only Rabbi in town.

Sid: Yeah, but you didn’t even realize what a heritage this guy had; if it wasn’t for him we wouldn’t be speaking Hebrew today in Israel.

Bill:  That’s right.

Sid: I mean if it wasn’t for his grandfather that is.

Bill:  He is as brilliant as his grandfather.  He speaks 8 languages and he is a true man of letters and just a wonderful warm person. He was very very helpful. And showed me his grandfather’s dictionary. Which was really amazing.  Well, we won’t get into that but…

Sid: But so the Mishpochah understand this his grandfather is the one that pioneered modern day Hebrew to be spoken language in Israel. And he had a dictionary and he literally came up with a lot of these Hebrew words, isn’t that true?

Bill:  Yes and he went to root words to find modern words to fit like “Ice Cream.”  He went to frozen milk and called it “glee-dah” in Hebrew.

Sid: Huh.

Bill:  But you know his dictionary now gives the meaning of each Hebrew word in Hebrew and gives an example from the Hebrew scriptures of how that word is used in scripture.  And then he gives the meeting in German and French and English and in Arabic.

Sid: Now I happen to be looking at my notes here in Luke and this is my favorite reading Bible and Luke 2:44 when there was a problem and Jesus was at the temple and they thought he was lost. You explain something that no one would understand. Explain that from Luke 2:44.

Bill:  Right when the people went to Jerusalem for a feast or any special occasion they go in a large group for safety.  And leaving Nazareth to go to Jerusalem the men would walk at each end of the column and the woman and children would walk in the middle.  But on the way home Jesus had been through the 1^st century equivalent of what we now call the Bar Mitzvah And he would have gone home as a an adult. So they got a whole day away before Mary and Joseph realized that Jesus wasn’t with them. Because Mary knew that he wouldn’t be with her and Joseph would just assumed he was with other relatives at the other end of the column.  Then they had to go back to Jerusalem and spend 3 days looking for him.

Sid: You know another interesting thing you bring out, how many times is the word church found in the New Testament?

Bill:  Zero.

Sid:  And yet all of these translations say church. What does the Greek word really say?

Bill:  Congregation.

Sid: And what a difference because when I hear the word church I think building; but when I hear congregation I think people.

Bill:  Right.

Sid:  It makes a world of difference.

Bill: It does and it’s all about people and that’s still what God cares about today it’s our people.  I think that’s one of reasons that home churches are doing so well.  Like Yonggi Cho started, my goodness the people in his church can’t possibly get into the building because they number in the 100’s of thousands, but they really do well and grow spirituality in home meetings.  And it’s the congregation that’s being re-abled to relate to a pastor who knows you, who cares and who lays hands on you in a regular basis.  Just as Jesus laid hands on people all over Israel.

Sid:  Tell me about some of these idioms or Hebrewisms. For instance in Matthew 16:19 we talk about binding and loosening. What does that really mean?

Bill:  Well, to bind is to forbid in Hebrew and to loose means to permit. And what’s really significant about that goes on “I will give you the keys of the Kingdom of heaven and whatever you would bind upon the earth would already have been bound in the heavens with ongoing affect.” See that particular tense in Hebrew, I mean in the Greek, means that.  And whatever you would loose upon the earth will already have been loosed in the heavens with ongoing affect.  So it means that we don’t bind anything that we don’t like because we don’t like it. But what we bind to be affective in that binding it must be something that has already been bound in heaven.  In other words, we have to go by God’s word and not by just things that bother us.

Sid: Okay, so for example you explain that many times in Bibles they translate sickness and they really should translate it evil.  So we know that from the word of God that God wants us to forbid evil.

Bill:  Absolutely.

Sid: And do you see this Mishpochah by understanding this I can see clearly why you call this “The Power New Testament.”  Give me one other quick example.

Bill:  Matthew 7:21 is a good one. While we’re in that book 7:21 “Not everyone who says to me Lord Lord will enter the Kingdom of the heavens but the one that does the will of My Father; the one in the heavens. Many will say to Me on that day Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your Name?  And we cast out demons in Your Name and did many miracles in Your name.  And then I will declare to them that “I never knew you.”  You working without Torah must continually depart from me.”  So Jesus is saying you have to go by the teachings, by the scripture. And what is the second most commandment we have the second most important is “Love your neighbor as yourself.”  That’s why in Matthew 25 He talks about whatever you did for the least of these you have done for me.”  Those are the significant… that’s where our focus needs to be and doing His will is in taking care of other people.

Sid: Oops we’re out of time.

 

Sid: My guest is Pastor Charles Cowan Pastor of Faith Is The Victory Church in Nashville, Tennessee.  I’m interviewing him on his brand new book titled “How to Deal With the Cares of Life.”  You know Charles it talks about the seed being the word of God and then different types of ground.  And one type of ground it talks about that when the testing comes you’re not going to stand; when the cares of life come you’re not going to stand.  Explain the different type of ground.

Charles:  Well you know Jesus talks about you know the stony ground; He talks about you know about the different levels there now.  Here’s what will determine what type of ground that an individual might be.  Whatever an individual allows to go on in their mind will control the level or will control the kind of soil or ground that they become. Also what they allow to go on in their mind controls the level of peace that they will enjoy in life. So what we have to do we have to be sure we become the good ground for the word of God.  Now what Satan does with these cares that he brings they are specifically designed to steal the word of God out of the believer.

Sid: Alright, what is the Bible mean by the phrase “Cares of life?”

Charles: It means distraction, cares just simply means the distractions of life that will distract us from God; distract us from what God has said, distracting us from the word of God.  Now they could come in the form of financial lack, it could come in the form of even sickness and disease, it could come in the form of family relationships.  There is a multitude of ways that care can be introduced into the life of a believer, or the life of any person.

Sid:  What about the people that lived in Washington, D.C. when that the shooter was just murdering people at random and no one knew what happened and they were literally afraid to go out of their house?

Charles: See they were terrified, that situation brought so much fear to that community; that community was terrorized.  Not just by the individuals that were using guns, but they were terrorized by this thing called fear.  And it is a work of the enemy; it is called a spirit the spirit of fear.  So they… every time they stepped outside their home they had to deal in their thinking with these thoughts of “Could I be the next one?  Where would the next place that this terrorist will strike.”  So yeah, they had to deal with that in their mind and if they didn’t know how to deal with that in their mind in their thought life it would actually drive them into their house and they would not come out of their house for fear of what might happen to them in a situation like that.  Well now that’s what Satan seeks to do; he seeks to drive every one of us as it were into our house so that we will not come out in the advancement of kingdom of God; in the advancement of the word of God.

Sid: How about someone that witnesses and the person they could have witnessed to someone like my father.  I come from a Jewish background and I remember a Christian friend of mine came up to me one time and he said “I sat next to your father, I didn’t know he was your father, but the minute he mentioned your name I started witnessing to him and he screamed so loud I ran out of that restaurant.”  That man may never share again with another human!

Charles:   Well that’s true now until he’s taught; until he gets into a place where he can be taught how to deal with that to overcome that.  He may never do it; that situation may have been on his mind that every time that he thinks about witnessing fear is the thing that grips his thoughts and mind.

Sid: Alright what should he do; what should he do?  What should he do let’s take this example right here. If that were you what would you do?  You just had this traumatic encounter in witnessing, the devil is telling you in every fiber of your being “Never witness again that’s someone else’s ministry.”  God has said “This is the purpose that your living.” Now what are you going to do Charles?

Charles  When that happens you have to determine which way you’re going to go, you’re going to determine if you’re going to go with the thing that’s bringing the stimuli to you that external thing.  Or you have to determine if you’re going to follow what you know that the word of God tells you to do.  How He tells you from His word how to handle your particular situation.  And so you determine then that you’re going to go by practicing what you have read from the word.  Putting it into practice what you know that the word of God says.  You know the word says “Casting all of your care, or casting all of your distraction over on Him because He cares for you.”  So you simply make the choice, and I say simply, yeah that you simply make the choice that you are not going to follow what the external thing is that has created the emotions and the feelings that you’re having.  But you’re going to do what God tells you to do going to set your mind on Him on His word.  And you’re going to put it into practice and become a doer in what God has instructed you to do; so that God’s power and God’s Spirit can work with you and work for you to bring you above that situation.  You know Peter and his writings say “Cast all your care on Him for He cares for you.” And that verse before he says “Humble yourself under the mighty hand of God that He may exalt you in due season.” In other words, the word exalt means that He elevate you above what it is that you are dealing with in your life at that point in time.

Sid:  So what you’re saying again in other words it’s a choice but when you choose to side with the word of God you get elevated supernaturally to be able to demonstrate it.

Charles: That’s exactly right. Now we talked about it today one day earlier here that “How can two walk together except they agree.”  God’s power is available to me to exalt me or to elevate me above this situation but I’ve got to come into agreement with Him.  And so therefore I have to make my mind I have to make up my mind that I am going to go God’s way no matter what I feel, no matter what the emotions may be that I’m feeling.  No matter what the situation is that I’m dealing with that I’m going to go God’s way so I’m going to cast that thing over on God.  And say God here it is “You take care of it now elevate me above it so that I can walk victorious over it and move on with my life so this thing does not bog me down and keep me in a defeated place in my life.” So it’s a matter of a choice, all of us make choices.  We make choices about a lot of things every day and the word of God is no different. God does not make choices for us; he does not force us to do things that we do not choose to do.  He said “I have set before you life and…

Sid:  I wish He did; I wish He forced us to do the right things.  I mean He’s just too good.    It would be easier to be forced.  I’m that pragmatic type of person I wish it wasn’t a choice but it is.

Charles: It is a choice and He made us that way and gave us this power of choice and the freedom of our will.  Because He wants us to follow Him and to walk with Him and to worship Him out of the freedom, or out of our freewill because we want Him and He’s not forcing us to take Him.  Everything that we do where God’s concerned is a choice it’s a choice whether a person accepts Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior, or whether they don’t.  It’s a choice whether or not whether the read the Word of God; it’s a choice of whether or not they think upon the word of God. Everything in life it’s a choice; we choose to get up in the morning; we may not want to we may not feel like it but we make the choice “I’m going to get up because there are things I need to tend to through the day.”  So if a person doesn’t make up their mind or does not choose to follow God God is not going to force them.  But His power that’s available to them is not going to be there for them because they haven’t chosen to agree with Him so God’s power cannot work for them in that situation.  So choices every day we make choices, and so He said “I set before you in the book of Deuteronomy I’ve set before you life and death, blessing and cursing therefore you choose life. Now listen to this you choice life that both and you and your seed may live.”  Every choice that we make affects more than just us as an individual it affects our seed.  And so God lays out there before us what He wants us to choose; but He lets us do the choosing.  And when we choose Him and choose to walk with Him then He comes together with us and His power is made available with us.  And He then will elevate us above the cares, the distractions, the problems whatever it is that’s come against my life He will elevate me above that and will bring me into a place of peace and cause me to have victory in every area of my life. So that’s what we have to do; we have to choose choose choose His word; choose what God said; choose to think on what God says.

Sid: I suggest that everyone listening make another quality choice; we are dealing in a tough world.  I don’t think it’s ever been as bad as it is today.

Sid: My guest is red hot for the Messiah how could he help it. The last 10 years this American Jew that is red hot for Jesus made aliyah, immigrated to Tel Aviv, Israel.  I’m speaking to him by way of telephone right now. Ron Cantor we’re talking about your new book “Identity Theft.”  It’s written as a novel and the premise is so amazing a Jewish reporter does his investigation about who Jesus is but does it an amazing fashion.  He has an encounter with an angel; and then in a time machine he goes back throughout history to see how something so Jewish has their identity stolen from the church.  As a matter of fact I understand that as people read your book first of all they can’t put it down, second of all they’re getting information that nowhere else on the planet are they going to get.  Because very few pastors understand the Jewishness of the New Testament, therefore how could they teach it.  And then you understand why so much confusion in the Jewish Community about who Jesus is.  A lot of Christians say “I don’t understand why Jewish people don’t believe in Jesus.”  But people are saying their intimacy goes off the top when they read the book, explain.

Ron:  Well, the main character David as he begins the search he’s learning all of these new things but as he get deeper into this search I don’t want to give away the whole book but in chapter 24 and 25, people write me all the time. Ron, I got to chapter 24 and it wrecked me; it crushed me I was in tears.  What they don’t know is that when I wrote those chapters I was weeping.  Sid I have never written a novel in my life and it was the most amazing experience because it was like the characters were directing me.  And I didn’t… I’ve heard from other writers that it’s often how it happens but it was such a unique experience for me and when I got to chapter 24 and 25, which I didn’t know they were 24 and 25 at the time. He meets the Messiah he meets the Messiah in Jerusalem, in the year 30 just before his crucifixion that’s all I’m going to say.  All I can tell you is that he has an encounter with Yeshua that is…it broke me I literally was writings these chapters and crying because I was so Identifying with the character.  I have people write me all the time and just talk about how they know; they now know Yeshua Jesus in a whole new way.

Sid: Okay, explain to me why in the Old Testament there’s a sister of Moses and her name is Miriam and then in the New Testament there’s the mother of Jesus and they call her, not by her name which is Miriam but they call her Mary.  And that’s true for a lot of the Jewish people in the New Testament; why was that high jacked?

Ron:  Well, it could have been innocent simply because if you take the name Miriam and translate it to English it becomes Mary or Maria.  But it’s interesting that in the Old Covenant which is my Old Covenant that I read in English; they didn’t change the name of Miriam the sister of Moses to Mary when the…. probably because when they went straight from Hebrew to English, whereas in the New Covenant they went from Hebrew to Greek to English.  And it’s the same thing with the name Joshua; a lot of people don’t know it but the name Y’hoshua is the long form; that’s the name Joshua in Hebrew but it’s the long form of Yeshua a shortened form.  Yeshua and Joshua is basically the same name; when I tell people here about Yeshua the Messiah they often think that I’m talking about the Old Testament to your Joshua.  And I have to explain to them and say “No, this is the Son of God the Messiah.” And we see that with Peter.  If I told you a story about Peter, James and Mary or Peter, Paul and Mary as the old band you would say this not a Jewish story.  But if I told you a story about Shaul which was what Paul’s name was.  By the way he never changed his name.  The Bible never said he changed his name.

Sid: But wait a second many Christians say his name was Saul but then his new name was Paul; what would you say?

Ron:  I would say that ridiculous because Paul at the time wasn’t a Christian name it was a typical Roman Latin name.  There was nothing spiritual about it; the truth of the matter is that most Jewish people; you probably have two Jewish names Sid.

Sid: I do, it’s whatever nations were in like my name if Sidney in the United States but in Israel it’s Yisrael.

Ron: Right so your parents gave you two names a Jewish name and then an American name.  My parents named me Ron but I also have a Jewish name Chaim and it’s very normal.  So Paul when in a Roman speaking world he was Paul; when he was in Israel amongst Jews he was Shaul or Saul, he had two names.  The Bible doesn’t say that he had an epiphany and suddenly took on a Roman name to replace his Jewish name that would be ridiculous.  Then we have Peter the word peter is not actually a name but it’s become a name.  It means rock; it comes from the Aramaic word Kepha, which is what Yeshua called Peter when he said “Your name is no longer Peter, rather no longer called Simon you’re going to be called Kepha you’re going to be called rock.  It was a very cool name but again, when you refer to people as Peter, as Paul as Mary you don’t think Jewish.  You don’t think a Jewish story; I want to tell how about Yakov the bother of Jesus name was Jacob.  Yet in every English Bible in the world just about it says that his name is James.  Nobody ever… James is a great name if you’re a butler, if you’re a….

Sid: (Laughing)

Ron:  But it’s not a Hebrew name; a Hebrew name is Jacob.  The Book of James is actually the book of Jacob.

Sid: How about something like communion and last supper and the Passover Seder.  You don’t even get the connection that the last supper was a Passover Seder.

Ron:  Right.  Well, David has that revelation in the book when he gets to view the last supper and he realized that it’s a Passover Seder that the imagery is amazing because Yeshua becomes the Passover Lamb who spills His blood for us.  The blood that in the Exodus would to on the doorpost of your house; it’s now the blood of the perfect Lamb of God Yeshua and it goes on the doorposts of our hearts.  And so when John His cousin, John the Baptist, saw Him a few years earlier he had a revelation.  I believe personally that it was a first time that he understood that Yeshua was the Messiah and then He said “Behold the Lamb of God the Passover Lamb who takes away the sins of the world.” But when Yeshua took that cup and he took the bread; the Matzah and He said “This is My body and this is My blood” this was in the middle of a Jewish Passover Seder.

Sid: So if we denude all of the Biblical feasts from Christianity we miss a whole lot of the New Testament.

Ron:  Absolutely, and the second coming. The Bible says very clearly that when Yeshua returns Zachariah 14 He’s coming back to Jerusalem to fight for Israel. His feet will land on the Mount of Olives and He will set up His Messianic Kingdom in the great city.  Then the world of the Lord will go forth from Zion to the nations of the world.  And then He says “Any nation that will not come up to Jerusalem to celebrate the feast of Tabernacles is going to be in big trouble.”

Sid: What would you say to believers that have turned against the Jew in Israel?

Ron:  I would say “Be very careful because the great hope of the Body of Believers is the return of the Messiah,” that’s what we long for.  That’s the longing of Paul as he writes the epistles we’re looking for His return.  And when He does return Sid He cannot and will not return to an anti-Semitic bride.  I cannot that He as a Jew is going to return to a bride that hates Him, that is against Him or that believes that His people have been rejected by God.  As someone said to me recently, “Jesus is not going to marry anyone that doesn’t like his mother and his mother, Miriam, is a Jew.

Sid: Well as far as I’m concerned that’s settles the argument.  But Ron you wrote the book with humor and it’s so poignant.  And because it’s a novel but all the facts are historical facts people are… Are people reporting to you they can’t put it down?

Ron:  Yes, in fact… Evan Horton the Senior Pastor of Brownsville Assembly of God when there was the great revival in the 90’s he wrote me and said Ron as soon as I started reading I couldn’t put it down.  Don Finto from Tennessee a very well know pastor and author he said “From the introduction he was glued, never put it down.”  Then I’ve gotten emails just from around the world who have said “Ron…

Sid: Oh, it’s going to change your paradigm of understanding who Jesus is and it is going to literally increase your intimacy with the Lord like you’ve never had it before.

Sid: We want everyone everywhere to have such a passion for God because He says “If you will draw near to Him He will draw near to you,” there’s no maybe and there’s no might.  There are people listening to us right now and they’re saying “I wonder why God isn’t drawing near to me. I wonder if there’s something wrong with me?”  No you’re probably missing that one scripture from James, this is it “Draw near to God He will draw near to you.”  My guest Hank Kunneman I’m speaking to him in Omaha, Nebraska where he’s Senior Pastor of Lord of Host Church.  Hank I have heard some pretty interesting things about you.  One of the most amazing is when you got born again baptized in the Holy Spirit you had a heavenly visitation tell me about it.

Hank: Yeah, actually it happened back in 1984 I was filled with the Holy Spirit; had just been saved about two months.

Sid: How old were you?

Hank:  I was about 18 years of age and I got filled with the Holy Ghost. One night people laid hands on me and there was a fluent language began to come.  That night I went home and began to pray in this heavenly language and immediately I felt this sensation that I was being lifted up and I was being pulled up from my body and I was pulled out up into a vision.  And I was standing before what felt like a multitude of people I could see in front of my eyes that there was a throne and I did not see who was on the throne because of the brightness of the light.  I could hear the sound and I could hear singing; and immediately when we began to sing it was like a whole choir of heaven and the angels were gathered there together.  We just began to fall on our face and we began to cry and worship the Lord.  It was shortly after that also I was praying in the spirit again and all of a sudden I had a vision again, I was taken out again and Jesus appeared to me.

Sid: Excuse me, when you use terminology I was taken out in the spirit, what do you mean?

Hank:  Well, in the book of Ezekiel the Bible talks about that that happened to prophet Ezekiel where he could be lifted up or drawn out of his body and taken in the spirit realm into a visitation from heaven.  That’s what it felt like to me the only way I could describe it is that I didn’t see it with my eyes I literally felt being pulled up out of my body being carried out into a vision and then everything at that moment becomes subject to what you are experiencing.  And I saw Jesus at that point and He said “I want to show you some things.”  And we began to take a walk and looking I remembering seeing the mountains and I remembering seeing the hills.  I remember seeing people visibly going back and forth in heaven.  And I hadn’t been saved very long so I didn’t have time for theological mind to really compute what was happening.  But what happened is Jesus said “I want to show you some things.”  We began to walk into this town into this village and there was what looked like people that were working on houses and they were building things all around me.  And then the Lord said this to me “I want you to come and see one of the greatest parts of heaven.”  And I thought boy “What would be one of the greatest parts of heaven.”  So we walked out of this village, all I can remember Sid there was this open field and it was very vast rolling hills and there was flowers and the trees were blowing and the grass were blowing.  And the Lord looked at me and He said these words and He had a very serious look on His face.  He said “This is reserved for the last final great harvest that is yet to come and for their places of dwelling that are yet to be built.”  And I remember looking at that moment going “My goodness this is huge there is so much room here.”  And we began to walk and when we began to walk I began to hear what sounded like people crying.  And all of a sudden Jesus turned around to me in this experience and He said “They’re not crying like you would hear crying in earth.  He said “Hank this is the cry of prayer, the prayer of travail.”  Of course I didn’t know what that meant I hadn’t been saved that long.  We immediately walked in and there was this garden, and Sid it was one of the most beautiful things that I’ve ever seen it was like an outside garden.  And there was people relatives, patriarchs of old.  I just knew it in my heart as I was looking at them they were kneeling praying and they were interceding.  And I remembering going to this wall with Jesus aid He said “Come and Look.”  As we went to this wall and we were able to look somehow into this earthly realm and see what was happening.  And there was great prayer and there was great travail and it was being brought up in heaven for the saints that were on the earth and for the events that were on the earth.  And Jesus turned to me and Hank he said “Always tell the people of the earth that I stand forever to make intercession for them.  And the saints that have gone before you and those that are even in heaven are praying for the events of earth and lose not heart.”  It was shortly after that I woke up and I began to have supernatural experiences.

Sid: Why did God do this with you; you were a baby believer, you’re brand new. Why did you have such an extraordinary experience?

Hank:  I think that when I gave my heart to the Lord; I think that’s one thing.  Number 2 I think that the grace and the callings of God they come without repentance and God puts them in your life.  And so I believe it was part of the training of some things that I would later walk in whether it be national events

Sid: Did He tell you much about your ministry during those visitations?

Hank: That actually happened later on in about 19… I want to say it was about 1986.  I used to pray about 4 to 6 hours a day as a young man I had nothing else to do I worked at a gas station just trying to serve others.

Sid: How did you pray 4 to 6 hours?

Hank:  I would pray in tongues a lot and that’s all I would do.

Sid: That be the only way that I think that you could do it.

Hank:  Yeah, because you don’t know how to pray as you ought the scriptures say.  So I would just pray in tongues.

Sid: How did you know to do that; most Christians that are baptized in the Holy Spirit speak in unknown tongues they do that once and then they don’t realize what they’re missing. How did you know?

Hank:  Well, I knew because of first of all because of how different I felt the very night that I began to begin to be filled with the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking tongues.  Number 2: I was so hungry for God.  Number 3: Just the supernatural experience that God brought into my life made me very very hungry and I always had it.  Even when I was 5 years I remember I used to live on the Island of Guam.  My parents were in the… my dad was in the Air Force.

Sid: Wait a second, did someone some great man or woman of God lay hands on you as a child as you know of I’m just curious.

Hank:  Never, I mean I was a heathen we were all heathens

Sid: Okay.

Hank:  And when I was 5 years of age I remember I heard a voice that startled me.  I was sitting out in my parent’s home there in Island of Guam and I heard a voice speak to me that His hand was upon my life for good and not for evil and that He had great and mighty things for me.  But my heart and my job and my life I don’t remember the exact words He said but “My responsibility,” and again it was in the language of a 5 year old,  “was to do good and to seek to do good.”  So my mom would she would always laugh because I would walk into shopping centers with her and some place and little old ladies and little old men would walk up and say “God’s hands upon your son the Lord’s going to something great with this young man.”  And so of course Sid that would frighten me because whenever I wanted to do something bad when I was a teenager I was always afraid because of this “Hand” that was upon my life.  And so I could see from a very beginning of 5 years of age and my teenage years…

Sid: That’s almost like Samuel he was taken care of like as a child.

Hank:  Right.

Sid: By being in the temple he couldn’t do the things other kids did.

Hank:  And even the friends that I used to hang around with would always say “Hank how do you know certain things about people?”  So I really believe that as Jeremiah was anointed as a prophet when he was in his mother’s womb I really believe that that gifting was upon me even while I was in my mother’s womb.

Sid: You know Hank I have no noticed this people that have this gifting and then they get saved it’s like you can either use it for the world or you can use your gifting for God.  I’m amazed the number of people that say that even before they were saved they were prophetic and didn’t understand the gift.

Hank:  Well, and that’s really what happened with me like I said in 1986 I was praying; I used to pray mostly in the Spirit and I worshiped God.  And all of a sudden I was kneeling down by my bed and I looked up and all of a sudden I saw a bright light and as soon as I looked at the bright light an angel appeared and stood before me and he said “Come, you have a visitation (I forget if it was the word visitation), but you come to a place that has been prepared.”  So I remember he grabbed my hand and I went and I remember the same sensation.  And I remember Ezekiel and he would fall on his face or he would stand up straight and he would be pulled up he would be lifted up by his hair.  And I read stories like that and I think “God that’s happened to me.”  And I was taken out by this angel and I remember we were moving in the spirit realm at this point; whether it was a vision or it was happening.  Boy I wish I could explain that and I just know that it happened and I was being taken now in the Spirit and all of a sudden we came down in a platform and another angel that was waiting for me to arrive on this platform.  On this platform Sid there was kings, there were rulers of nations, there was presidents that were seated upon these seats.  I knew it because it’s almost like in the Spirit realm you know things and I knew not only by the way that they were dressed by the way that they were sitting; I knew that they were men and they were woman of prominence.  And the angel that was waiting for me on the platform turned around and he said “Behold the tongues of the tribes of many nations.”  And he had me look out and as far as my eye could see I saw masses of people.  Now the Angel of Lord said “God holds you responsible to reach these that you have seen with your own eyes.”  And then he turned around and he pointed his finger and he says it shall even be written of your life that you shall decree the word of the Lord to kings and rulers of nations.  At that moment the angel that was waiting on the platform immediately gave me a book.  And again my… it seems like a lot of my supernatural experiences have been a lot like Ezekiel.  Now I’ve never had to thank God lay on my side for certain amount of time or I think he had to be nude at one time; thank God that I never had to do that. But what I’ve had is supernatural experiences and there was this book that was handed to me by this angel.  And it was written upon it and it was written “Revelation 10.”  And I’ll read it to you and it said verse 9 “I went to the angel, he gave me a little book and he said unto me take it and eat it and it shall make thy belly bitter but it shall be in your mouth sweet as honey.  Now here’s the part that when I was commissioned into the ministry in 1986 with these 2 angels.  Here’s what was written upon the scroll and he said unto me “You must prophesy before many people, nations, tongues, and even kings.” That was what was written upon the very scroll that I ate.

Sid: Hank were out of time we’ll pick up here on tomorrow’s broadcast.  Mishpochah, Hank has verified prophesies of so many events before they came to pass.  He has seen the near future of America.  He has seen what is about ready to happen with the church.  We’ll be talking about that all this week.