Sid: My guest Zona Hayes-Morrow; your probably familiar with her father Norvel Hayes. And on yesterday’s broadcast we found out for a teenage girl is a real tragedy 42 growths on her body. Even when the doctors would cut them out they’d grow back and even move would grow; so her father stopped dealing with that; he’s praying but nothing is happening. Kenneth Hagin is a guest in that area and their personal friends; and Kenneth Hagin says “All I have to do is curse those growths and they’ll go.” And then what happened Zona?
Zona: Well then we went down to the house after my dad said well to himself he said “I’m going to get Brother Hagin aside and ask exactly what he does to get growths to leave.” Well he, got to talking when we got down there and I had to go to bed because I had to get to school the next day. My dad they went on to bed and in the middle of the night Brother Hagin got up and he knocked on my dad’s door. And he said “Narvel I’m going to have to go to my sister’s really early in the morning because the Lord spoke to me and told me I’d have to go minister to my sister because this would be last time I would see her she is going to go to Heaven.” So he left early the next morning and then after he left on up in the morning my dad thought to himself “I didn’t get to ask Brother Hagin what his secret was to getting growths to disappear.” Well, he was just very disappointed and so a few weeks later, he’d been praying and asking the Lord to remove the growths off of my body, and I was in the living room with my boyfriend because I wasn’t allowed to date yet so he could come and visit me at my house. And I was in the living room talking to him on the couch and my dad was walking in the dining room and all of a sudden he was in paradise. It was like the air was fresh; I mean it’s beyond fresh.
Sid: He went to a different dimension he was literally taken to Heaven.
Zona: He was literally taken to Heaven; his spirit… he left his body and he saw himself back down in the dining room. So he went up to Heaven and he said he just knew it was Heaven. All of a sudden this voice out of nowhere strong it said “How long are you going to put up with the growths on your daughter’s body?” And my dad said… he knew it had to be the Lord; he said “What do you mean put up, there not on my body I didn’t put them there?” And all of a sudden left God half mad he could tell by his voice and not that you could get upset in Heaven but he was just stern with him and “You’re the head of your house whatever you put up with in your house that is not victory is your fault; if you’ll curse those growths at the root just like I did the fig tree and you’ll believe and not doubt son those growths will disappear but you have to believe and not doubt.” And he said “Just as fast as he went up into Heaven he came back into his body” and I’m still in the living room with my boyfriend and he walks in the living room like a lion and he went “Zona!” I said “I didn’t do anything dad; I didn’t do anything!”
Sid: [Laughing]
Zona: And he knelt down on the floor and he said “I just went to Heaven and he said “The Lord told me what to do with those growths and I’m taking authority as the head of this house. And I’m cursing those growths at the root and I’m going to command that those growths disappear and they will have no choice. And I’m going to believe and not doubt and they will disappear.” All of a sudden he said “Son you put your hands on my daughter’s knees, and I’ll put my hands on your hands…” And he said “On no no no wait a minute wait hold on and let me put my hands on my daughter’s knees and then you put your hands on my hands and I want to curse these growths at the root and I’m going to command them that they disappear and I’m going to believe and not doubt and they are going to disappear; do you believe that?” He said “Whatever you say Mr. Hayes whatever you say.”
Sid: (Laughing) Oh I’ve seen your dad a lot and no one argues with your dad, but go ahead.
Zona: Especially the devil (Laughing). But anyway he cursed those growths and for 90 days every waking moment that I was around him and you’d ask him a question and I’d say “What are we going to cook for supper?” And he’d said “Well, we’re going to cook pork chops and I thank you Lord for removing those growths from my daughter’s body.” And we’re going to have a salad, and thank you Lord for removing Lord those growths on my daughter’s body.”
Sid: Did they drive you nuts?
Zona: Oh it drove me… yes, after 30 days of it I met him in the hall and I said… he was coming out of his room and I was coming out of the bathroom in the hall. And I said “Dad stop, hold on” I said “Look at me, you’re driving me nuts,” I said “Every waking moment it’s thank you Lord for removing the growths off of my daughter’s body; look at my hands do you see that it’s not working?” He looked at my hands and he put his head and he snapped his fingers and turned around one time and said “Nope I don’t see nothing all I see is skin like baby’s skin; thank you Lord for removing the growths off of my daughter’s body.”
Sid: Well, were they removed?
Zona: Not at that time; he saw beyond what my hands know.
Sid: Yeah, but you had a say dad, “What are you talking about the growths,” did you say that to him?
Zona: I sure did it wasn’t my faith that rose up that got rid to them because I was living under my dad’s roof; he was my father he was the head of the house. This was a lesson to be taught to people that were in their homes that they can take authority over the devil over things that that go on in their home. And so about 40 days later… I counted these growths every day Sid and that morning there was 45 of them; I mean 42 of them. And I counted them later on in that day at the house and there was 30 of them. So when my dad got in I was sitting there waiting on him and he said “What’s wrong?” And I said “Well, I just want to tell you it’s really weird,” I said “I counted these growths this morning and there was 42 and now I said at 6:00 at night and I said there’s only 30 of them. I have looked everywhere for 12 of them and I don’t know where they went; I looked in the vacuum cleaner, I’ve looked under my bed, I’ve looked in the living room, I looked in the kitchen, I’ve looked everywhere and I can’t find any of them.” And he said… and of course he did a little dance and he turned around and he snapped his fingers in the air again and he said “Praise the Lord those other 30 don’t have no choice, thank you Lord for removing growths off of my daughter’s body.” He just kept on and on and on with the tenacity stubborn, bulldog faith saw my hands clear with the eyes of faith. Then about 90 days later I came in from school and there was 30 growths on my hands and I went back to my bedroom and I was changing out my dresses and my clothes in my closet and I’d reach up and get a hanger, and my dad was in the kitchen cooking, and I reached up for my hanger and there would be the 30 growths and I would see them on my hands, and my wrists and arms and my legs and I’d reach up and there they would and I reached up and at the sixth time I reached up every one of them had disappeared; everyone.
Sid: What affect did this have on you?
Zona: I about past out it scared me so bad, I fell against my dresser and I ran out of that room as fast as I could and my dad came out of the kitchen and he said “Zona, Zona what’s wrong with you?” I said, “I’m going to tell you right now, this is the spookiest business I’ve ever been around,” I said “I was hanging up my cloths and there was 30 growths, look at my hands dad, look at my hands, there’s no sign of no growths on my hands, my legs and my elbows; look they’re all gone.” And we cried and the Holy Spirit’s presence came in there and I was hugging my dad. And I said “dad, you tell mean to tell me and I don’t even do anything for God, you do everything, you feed the poor, you speak at Full Gospel Businessmen’s meetings, you win souls I just tag along, and I said “You mean God loves me enough to remove growths even if I don’t do anything for him?” and I said “He loves me that much?” And he said “Yes Zona” and the presence of God came in there so strong that we just both stood there holding each other in strength and just kept crying.
Sid: I have to ask you a question though, okay we fast forward a number of years and you’re just out of high school and you marry Bobby and he goes to war and while he’s there he divorces you; and you move back with your dad. And you become backslidden and you’re going out clubbing every night and just partying as much as you can how, does someone that had that experience and that father fall away?
Zona: Well, I saw a lot of foolishness in ministry all my life; I watched people use my dad and I watched people use him to be able to receive big offerings and I saw a lot of phony things in ministry. And I mean I would check them off; I mean I would remember them and then my mother left when I was 8 ½; that was devastation and ministry business took my dad and I was a lot of times by myself a lot growing up and with an aunt or whatever and that was a little resentment there. And just immaturity on my part and just realizing that my dad was like one of the disciples; just take up your cross and follow me. You have no mother, you have no father, no sister, no brother even though he loved me more than anything on this earth I wasn’t mature enough in me to understand because I was still operating out of so much rejection because my mother didn’t want anything to do with me.
Sid: Now your father must have been really desperate and a couple by the name of the Goodwins prophesied; what did they prophesy?
Zona: Well, they were driving in the car and sister… they prophesied Sister Goodwin prophesied and she said “The thing that you want the most will never happen.” When she comes in at 2 or 3:00 in the morning you tell her you love, you tell her I love her and you shut up because she doesn’t believe anybody else loves her she’s gone too far out in darkness to come back on her own; you are going to have to stand in the gap for her so don’t tell her how you feel you just tell her you love her and Jesus loves her and then shut up.”
Sid: Okay, speaking of shut up we’re out of time right now…
