SID: Hello. Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. I just so love breathing in the rarified air of Heaven. My guest did it better than most people. You see, he was caught up out of his body unexpectedly to Heaven and he was granted the privilege to see the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob speaking to the Messiah of Israel about the End Times, and you must, I say you must hear what he came back to report. So let me ask you this question. My guest Carlos is a, he was at Benny Hinn’s church. You were picked out by him. Tell me real briefly, what happened. You just show up and what happened?
CARLOS: First time I attended church there, the ushers, for whatever reason, sit me at the third row, aisle seat, dead center from the platform where he’s preaching. And in the middle of his preaching, he stops, points his finger at me, he says, “I don’t know who you are, young man, but the call of God is all over your life. The anointing is upon you and from this day forward, usher, when this young man comes into this church building, I want you to make sure he gets a seat up front.” That was my introduction to Benny Hinn and to his church.
SID: And then he starts working on the team, and then he starts his own congregation, and then it’s hugely successful, and then everything that’s supposed to happen is happening, and he feels that he’s arrived. And then he goes to a meeting and a prophet says, “Who here does this city mean anything to?” And he knows it’s him. He stands up. And what does this prophet Kim Clement say to you?
CARLOS: Well the prophet said that there’s somebody here connected to Indiana. And so he goes through a process of elimination. Twelve people raise their hands and he goes, “No, it’s not you, not you, not you.” When finally I was forced to lift up my hand because he goes, “It’s somebody on the right side of the platform.” So I raise my hand and the moment I did, he goes, “It’s you.” And he says, “I want you to take four large steps towards this podium, this platform.” And so I did, and as I did he was counting them: 1, 2, 3, 4. Finally when it gets to 4 he says, “Stop.” And he goes, “Thus saith the Lord. You’ve taken four major steps in ministry, related to ministry. But the fifth step, the next step will be the biggest step ever you’ve ever taken. It will take you to places you’ve dreamed about. It will take you to places of a greater glory, greater manifestation.” And so of course, I interpret that in a totally different way to how it turned out. But nonetheless, it was that prophetic word that really almost catapulted me to really seek the Lord in a more sincere way, in a more deeper way, in a more consecrated way.
SID: So you know what? It says in the Bible that if you draw close to God, He’s going to draw close to you. That’s what happened to Carlos. Because on May 8, 2005, he’s minding his own business, sleeping. What happened?
CARLOS: And all of a sudden in the middle of the night, my spirit begins to rise up out of my body. And at first, I was just like hovering, hanging over the bed. I could see my physical body laying there. I could see my wife laying next to me. I thought to myself, what in the world is going on. I thought I passed away. That thought went through my mind.
SID: I can understand.
CARLOS: And then all of a sudden, I feel these two massive arms and I knew it was an angel. And I could see myself. He was cradling me, holding me between his two arms. And the moment I saw that, we began to rise. And I remember looking at the roof and I ducked my head because I thought I was going to hit my head against the roof, and to my surprise, we go right through the roof of the house. And so that’s when I thought, oh, Lord, I passed away. And I began to pray for my wife, my kids. So for a brief moment, my mind and my thoughts, my emotions were on earthly matters. And then all of a sudden from one instant to another instant, a moment, my emotions were flooded with this incredible joy, joy I had never felt before because I knew that I was about to go see Jesus, the Son of God. And so I remember just closing my eyes and thinking to myself, I’m ready. And then we shoot through the atmosphere going through the clouds. And then in an instant I find myself in this big open expanse of a place of, for lack of a better word, a large opening, a room. I didn’t see any buildings. I didn’t see any angels. I didn’t see anybody. I just saw, in the natural I’m color blind, so I saw these incredible colors, massive, beautiful colors.
And the neat thing about that, Sid, was the colors were actually breathing. There was life, like if it was lungs. It was expanding and inhaling. I could see the colors actually breathe and full of life.
SID: You know, I had heard reports like this before. Everything is alive in Heaven. I have heard that the grass is even alive. It’s like we haven’t even experienced life on this dead earth until we have the life of God inside of us. But how would you like to be in a place where everything is alive, no death. I like it.
CARLOS: Yes. And so from that room, all of a sudden in an instant I was back into this other room. And in this room, I saw two figures and they were standing at an angle like this, maybe from here to the camera, maybe 10 feet. And then I heard a voice and the voice said: “To you, it’s been granted to stand here and listen.” Because I immediately recognized it was the Father and the Son. At first, I didn’t know who it was, but when I, as I got a little closer, than I heard the voice. I recognized it was Jesus and the Father, and they were having a conversation. And so when I heard the voice it told me, “You’ve been granted permission to stand here and listen,” I remember turning my ear this way to listen to their conversation, and to my surprise, they were talking about the End Times.
SID: Hold that thought. When we come back, I don’t have to tell you to be sure to come back, you will be back. I know that. Don’t go away.
