Sid: I see a trend, in fact I was talking to the producer of It’s Supernatural television over the last couple of days about this. I’m concerned it seems as though the pendulum has swung. At one point people are almost afraid of God they looked at God as someone with a big stick that was going to hit them over the head. Now the pendulum has swung and God is my best buddy I can do anything with Him and there is almost no reverence and respect that God is entitled to and deserves. The thing that happens is the next step that happens from there is a loosening, a seeker sensitive if you will, with the words of God. Especially in the arena that I’m going to be speaking to my guest about and the arena is homosexuality. I have on the telephone; I’m speaking to him; I caught up with him at Anaheim, California; he’s normally in Washington D.C. the Chairman of Traditional Values Coalition, Louis Sheldon. Louis I have to tell you I have just looked over your book “The Agenda” subtitled “The Homosexual Plan to Change America.” Yes in the back of my mind in the recesses of my brain I knew some of these things, but I had no idea how organized this is, and how quickly things are changing and could continue to change unless we’re knowledgeable of these things. I would like to start out by asking you a couple of quick questions, and that is how is it that the press has given a green light, it appears, to everything that is homosexual to the point of I couldn’t even believe what I saw on the internet a few weeks back where there’s going to be an entire television network devoted to homosexuality? How did we get so far from the time where people would be ashamed to admit they were homosexuals to the point where it’s in your face?
Louis: I think basically what has happened is that the church has been asleep on this issue. In other words there is nothing more discomforting, or hard to talk to about because it is sexual, than the homosexual issue. The homosexual issue involves sexual activity of a homosexual nature. How often do we talk about in our sermons, or in our Bible classes, or in evangelistic, or revival meetings of sex explicitly? When you deal with this issue most Christians have backed away and just said “Oh that’s of the devil.” They have allowed those people that support it, those people that are homosexuals to take the lead. So all at once we wake up and the camel not only has his nose in the tent, but he’s sitting in the tent with us, and we wonder what we’re gonna do.
Sid: Yes but why is the press giving them a free pass?
Louis: Because the press since the very beginning of this, which would be June of 1969 in lower Manhattan where the homosexuals created a riot for several days in New York City there. Over the issue of the police having raided their gay bars and said “Look stop this kind of homosexual activity sexual sex acts between men that was taking place right in the bar.” Now the press called that the new frontier of discrimination; meaning that they were being discriminated for their right to do what they wanted to do sexually with each other to men. Ever since then many newspapers for many reasons they come out of the schools of journalism like the Columbia School of Journalism, or Pennsylvania University School of Journalism, and they’re very liberal. So they always take the liberal position, in other words, “If it feels good do it.” That was a slogan back, you know, in the 60’s itself.
Sid: Louis just so that people know the serious of the nature, you had a quote on page 2 of your book that was actually reprinted in the Congressional Record that really reveals the purposes of the gay rights movement. I wonder if you would read that quote?
Louis: Yes I will. This is so important to realize this. First was printed in the homosexual newspaper by Michael Swift published in the Gay Community Newspaper in February of 1987, so that was 18 years ago. Congressman Dana Meyer picked it up several years later in 1989, he’s a congressman from southern California and put it in the Congressional Record. It reads as follows: “We shall sodomize your sons, emblems of your feeble masculinity, of your shallow dreams and vulgar lies. We shall seduce them in your schools, in your dormitories, in your gymnasiums, in your locker rooms, in your sports arenas, in your seminaries, in your youth groups, in your movie theater bathrooms, in your army bunkhouses, in your truck stops, in your all male clubs, in your houses of Congress, wherever men are with men together. Your sons shall become our minions and do our bidding. They will be recast in our homosexual image. They will come to crave and adore us.” You have to realize that when that was placed in the Congressional Record and read by Congressman Dana Meyer as he put it in the record; the homosexual movement cheered they did not even get mad. They had been bold to promote and advocate their evil as good for years.
Sid: Louis in reading your book “The Agenda the Homosexual Plan to Change America.” I’m amazed at how sophisticated the strategy is with young children with the education system. Tell us some of the things that are going on.
Louis: Very clearly a proposition was put forth with about 15 or 20 pages it was published back in the late 1980’s “How to Overhaul Straight America.” You know so they would become sympathetic, I think in that was the plan that we need to penetrate the public schools. So was born as a result of that challenge, from these 2 writers, the gay and lesbian, and straight educator’s network known as Gleeson, G-L-S-E-N. That network took a Supreme Court decision that sued a school district in Milwaukee; GLSEN sued that school district for almost a million dollars because the kids witnessed to the homosexuals there concerning their lifestyle. They awarded a million dollars to this young man at that time who had already entered college because his school district did not come down on the side of protecting the homosexual lifestyle. So that was the beginning of GLSEN, today GLSEN is in thousands of school districts across America. They hold what they call the Diversity Week every year saying “That homosexuality’s no different than you like chocolate ice cream, I like vanilla ice cream it’s all ice cream.” In other words, sexuality can be between 2 men, or 2 women, or 3 men and 1 woman. It gets very very…
Sid: Okay does this start in high school, or does this start at even younger ages?
Louis: Starts in the middle schools. You have even now in some elementary schools where the School Board has approved it, especially if that state has repealed its sodomy laws. Now that we have the Supreme Court decision several years ago that repealed the sodomy law of Texas it isn’t illegal anyway to teach and promote homosexuality alongside of 1 man 1 woman in marriage and family. So it does begin basically in middle school, but there are some school districts that are starting it 5th and 6th grade to tell them that they shouldn’t be locked in to just a mother and a father the parents can be of the same sex.
Sid: What is the real agenda when you talk about the homosexual agenda, what is their agenda?
Louis: Their agenda is to change America to remove them man and woman consensus from center stage, and to replace it with a whole new sexual diversity philosophy of gay, lesbian, transvestite, transgender (that’s man who changes physically; he has a doctor change his sex organs). Then pretty soon you can count on pedophilia moving into that. For some time the American Psychological and Psychiatric Association said that “Pedophilia wasn’t a social disorder it was only if it kept you from getting up in the morning and going to work.” So their agenda is remove, to destroy marriage as we know it a man a woman, and potentially…
Sid: Is there a difference at this moment in history between the United States of America’s laws and what is being done in these perverted areas, and Sodom and Gomorrah?
Louis: Well right now we haven’t quite reached Sodom and Gomorrah because there’s many states that have somewhat have ignored the Supreme Court decision overturning the sodomy law. We have now 43 states that have passed either a law or a constitutional amendment saying that marriage will only be between 1 man and 1 woman together. So from that perspective we have put up resistance. Now, but we are heading towards Sodom and Gomorrah…
Sid: Look we’re out of time.
