Sid: We want everyone everywhere to have the same passion for the Lord that my guests have. My guests are prophetic, and they have an anointing that others can move in the prophetic. Ben and Brenda Peters, I’m speaking to them at their home in South Beloit, IL. I have Brenda on the telephone, and Brenda you move in such accurate and wonderful gifts of words of knowledge, and prophecy. I want to find out what you feel… your husband told me what his turning point was, but your turning point it appears to me was when you spent time going to one place every day for a couple of hours. If I remember right you said you were just soaking and worshipping in the presence of beautiful worship music, and just being still before God. Being still is that important?
Brenda: That’s very important because all of us have backgrounds where we have issues of fear, panic attacks; often times people have fear of being in front of the public. And God was asking me to stand in front of people and encourage them with His heart. I knew that I had to hear from the heart of God, it couldn’t be everything that I had learned and studied about the Bible. It had to be the heart of God because people know the difference. So…
Sid: Now what would you say to someone that says “Well for the last year I’ve been spending an hour, or half hour everyday being still before God just soaking in His presence, and He hasn’t told me anything. Should I just quit?”
Brenda: No you should begin to ask Him, ask Him for a word every time you come in front of a person. You should begin to say “God what do you want to say to this person?” We often times just don’t give Him the opportunity to speak and we’re His vessels that He wants to speak through. So it’s actually an opportunity every time you meet somebody; walking on the streets everywhere you go. Say God “What do you want to say to this…”
Sid: Does it have something to do with the scripture that says “You have not because you ask not?”
Brenda: Definitely.
Sid: Tell me some experiences that you’ve had as a result of spending quality time with the Lord.
Brenda: I’d like to backup first. Before we started full-time in the prophetic and that was… I have a daughter at that time who was 16. She was actually very sick having an asthmatic attack. We brought her home, and when she got home her lungs collapsed. As we were getting her out to the car preparing to race to the hospital I began to call out the prophetic. The Holy Spirit began to remind me of prophetic words that had been spoken into her life over the years, and I began to speak those words into her life in between resuscitating her. She also had a cardiac arrest; we didn’t get to the aide car for about 10 minutes, but the prophetic words were calling down from Heaven her destiny refusing the death experience that was taking place. She was gone by the time we got her to the hospital, but God sent her back as I was crying out to Him and praying. That triggered a new level of understanding in my heart that if I would go after more of the presence of God if I would call down and use the authority that was given to me as his daughter that I could bring to life others in different ways as well.
Sid: I would like you to put your husband Ben back on for a moment.This is Ben Peters and Ben I’m wondering if you do the same thing your wife does and that is spend quality time, I know that you did this in college, but do you still spend time in God’s presence and tell me about it.
Ben: We try to live in His presence and give the moments that God gives us like most people…
Sid: Out of curiosity is it possible to live in that tangible presence 24-7?Is it possible?
Ben: Oh yes, oh yes He’s always there we just…
Sid: Well I know He’s there, but I know when I consciously or sometimes His Spirit will come on me but like for instance when I speak I could be sick; I could have a pain in my body and when I’m in that tangible presence I am not sick, when I’m in that tangible presence I do not have a pain in my body. So my peanut brain logic says “If I could be in that presence 24-7 good-bye doctors.”
Ben: Yeah ha-ha, yeah that’s good logic, that’s good logic I agree with that. It’s easier said than done of course.He’s always there He’s available and He really wants us to…
Sid:Okay, I want you to be a coach right now; I would like you to coach me and everyone that is listening, but let’s start at basics. Everyone has to start somewhere, someone that doesn’t experience the presence of God give us some advice coach.
Ben: Okay I love that one scripture in Proverbs “In all your ways acknowledge Him and He will direct your path.” And we use the word acknowledge often in a public setting as somebody comes in that’s well-known and we’re having a meeting someone would say I’d like to acknowledge the presence of so and so.We say who they are, we acknowledge that they’re with us and we tell a little bit about them. And when we acknowledge the Lord in all of our ways wherever we are whatever we’re doing we’re acknowledging that He is with us and we’re saying who He is. And when we say to Jesus “You’re with me, thank You and You are Lord, You have control, You have the right to tell me what to do. You have the right to put thoughts in my mind; You have the right to direct me in my day and steps.” And He says “Trust in Him with all your heart and lean not on your own understandings.” which is a cerebral thing that you were talking about earlier. But if we acknowledge Him that He is the Lord and He will be there and He will guide our steps and we will hear His voice, we acknowledge that He is the God that speaks; He’s the God that loves to communicate with His people; He hasn’t changed, Jesus is the same, the Father’s the same. He’s a communicating God He created us for fellowship and what kind of fellowship happens without communication?
Sid:Let me take you back to when you were in Bible school and you were getting up 2 hours early. You were even missing breakfast, if the Lord didn’t release you and His presence was so strong. Did you ever miss a class because of this?
Ben:No, I don’t remember missing classes, but I did go to extra prayer meetings; because when I’d leave that place the joy of the Lord would flood me even as I’d been filled with weeping all of a sudden joy flooded my soul and I walked through the rest of the day kind of like floating on Cloud 9 as they say. I’d look for prayer meetings. We were involved in prayer bands. The first prayer band I chose was my first quarter in Bible school was the Middle East. Which is interesting because we now have more interests in the Middle East and Israel than we’ve ever had before.And…
Sid: The Bible’s real clear that Israel will be front and center stage, and be a problem for the whole world in the last days. So…I mean everyone sees what’s going on.
Ben:SoI would go not only to our prayer band, but I’d go to prayer bands that were taking place at different times of the day. I’d go to every prayer band that I could go to. I was in prayer…
Sid:Did you have time for anything else besides school and prayer? Well there was a young woman named Brenda of course.
Ben:She was hungry for more of God. She hadn’t known much about church and about God before then. She’d been taken to a Baptist church and got saved there, and with influence of Billy Graham on TV. She didn’t know that much about the Holy Spirit, and she was hearing something’s about healing and the Holy Spirit. We connected, and I was so full and she was so hungry I was just pouring into her and our dates were Bible studies and prayer meetings. It was pretty awesome; it was really reallyspecial. Then God began to speak to me, and the way I started to hear God’s voice was through the Bible itself. God would take a scripture and He’d bring it to life and speak to me and one morning I was in my prayer time Brenda had shared some burdens, and I was praying for her and I opened the Bible I asked God to speak to her and give her something from the Word and the verse that my eyes fell on was “She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life.” And it was like the Holy Spirit said she’s the one and up until then you know I didn’t know I just thought…
Sid:But she knew the moment she looked at you she told me yesterday.
Ben:Yes, that’s right so…
Sid:But she operates in different gifts than you; you operate primarily in God speaking to you through the word; she has visions if you will.
Ben: Right, right we both exercise prophetic gifts, but hers flows in a way that mine doesn’t. I respond to the scripture where Paul told Timothy, stir up the gift that’s in you which was giving you at the laying on of hands in prophesy and so on. So when I have an opportunity I’m asking God to “Stir it up Lord stir it up.”Then He gives me something. He gives me a word, a vision or something that I can feed into their spirit and that’s a powerful thing.Brenda’s anointing is much stronger in this area where she walks into a room and she starts to sense things and feel things and see things; and she gets this burden within her that she has to release it. It’s like the prophets in the Old Testament they say “Your word is burning in my bones up you know and I had to release, I could not be silent” that’s how she operates.
Sid: I asked Brenda this question I want to ask you this question. Do you believe everyone that is a believer can prophesy?
Ben: Everyone can hear God voice everyone can prophesy. Jesus said “My sheep hear my voice. And Paul said “You may all prophesy one by one that all may be encouraged and all may learn.” Yes I do everyone has the potential; some will take it to higher levels than other and their definitely different levels of prophetic ministry. But at the least we can receive a burden for someone and let them know that we have a burden for them that God gave to us and we’re praying for them. Or we may just feel like their having a hard day or something like that.As we develop as we’re faithful with what God give us God will give us more. The very important thing is that we minister out of a pure spirit and a pure heart not with ideas of showing off our gift, but with idea of this is part of the Body of Christ, or this is one that needs to be part of the Body of Christ.They need to know that God loves them. And so we’re asking and listing for God’s voice and listening…
Sid: Ben I’m sorry we’re out of time we’ll pick up right here on tomorrows broadcast.