SID: Hello. Sid Roth here with the Meisners. And I’m really, I don’t know about you, audience, I am blown away with our God and what He has done. But you know, we’re human and there is a forgiveness that has to occur. How in the world did you two first forgive and then love? Because without the forgiveness there can’t be the transparent love that you have.
BOB: I wish I could say it was overnight and it was just a prayer. But there was so much wounding and hurt that goes on. And so I want to bring hope to people, you know, that God has you on a journey to wholeness, and to know His love then you are able to express His love.
AUDREY: And Jesus just so much wants us to be, as Bob said, whole and free. And for me, everyday was repentance. I would repent in layers and I wanted to hate what I had done. And that was a process of years. A couple years though after Robert was born, I had a supernatural experience. I was at my parents’ home and there was a couple there, and after dinner I asked them to pray for me. And they said, “Sure, we’ll pray for you.” And when they did they said, “We sense that you have acute grief, and that’s just not a sadness, Audrey, because you’re not a sad person. But this is something, you have experienced a death or a loss and as a result grief has been locked into you. Would you like us to pray for you?” And I said, “Yes, I don’t want to live with that.” And they said, “Do you know what in the world happened that you have this?” So I told them the story how I committed adultery and had this baby, and I had never really grieved, because I was trying so hard to be perfect and strong. And they said, “Tonight is your night.” And as they laid hands on me they said, “Do you believe that you deserve to forgive yourself?” And I said, no. They said, “Because Jesus lives in you, you don’t get what you deserve. You get what he deserves.” And I thought, wow. And I thought, what happened is they prayed, I tapped into that grief and it was like prison doors were opened, and I finally walked free out of that prison of grief, and I let myself cry and weep for the first and one of the last times. Because what happened after that is my eyes were closed. I saw myself, a vision of myself clothed in the most beautiful white glistening pure robe of righteous. And Jesus said, “Will you see yourself the way I say you?” And I said yes, and when I did, I received that robe. That cloak of shame I had been wearing was off in a minute. And my robe was slippery. And you say, what difference does it make? Up to the point I could feel people as if they had Sharpie markers writing X’s on me. Because my robe was slippery I was free.
SID: And one of the keys is, it seems like almost everyday you were praying to God, soften my heart.
AUDREY: Yes.
SID: What an important prayer to pray.
AUDREY: I believe that humility is so important to just say, God, I surrender my entire life, my healing and especially surrender my husband, because I felt responsible to fix him and make him better, somehow make up for what I had done wrong. But Jesus healed us in a much different way.
SID: So Bob, you were a victim. How did you become satisfied from being a victim?
BOB: Sid, you are so right. I was the victim. And that night when Audrey walked free the couple then looked at me and said, “Bob, can we pray for you?” I said, sure. And they said, “We sense that you have some issues of unforgiveness.” You think so? And they said to me, they said, “You’re not ready to receive, are you?” I said, “No because it’s not fair. How come she’s the one that has the affair and I’m the one that has kept our family together. How come she gets to experience breakthrough? How come she gets to experience the supernatural? How come she gets to go free and I have to carry the burden and the weight of this?” I wasn’t ready. The next day it troubled me that I would be in such a place that I would not be able to receive from God. The next evening I said, “Would you pray with me?” You see, anyone can do this. We don’t need somebody necessarily. But you see, God began the work in my heart two years prior of loving me. And that night He asked me, He says, “Bob, will you allow my love to be perfected in you, to run its full course in prayer?” I visited an image in my mind. Because in my mind, I mean, it was full of imaginations. I call them vain imaginations of exactly what took place. How many of these events was she a part of?
SID: This became a stronghold.
BOB: It was tormenting and it would send me into a depression. It would put me on a spin of anger and rage. But after two years I had learned to control it, and that will kill you. It will cause your body to become sick. But that night as I stood there and I forgave, and I forgave, I weeped and cried. And then the Lord said, “Will you allow my love to be perfect.” He showed me the image that I had created in my mind of the moment she became pregnant. I didn’t visit that one too often. But in that moment I stepped into that image and I gathered her back to myself. And I wrapped her in my arms and I opened my eyes, and I fell in her embrace, and it was over.
SID: You know, you two have developed such keys to help people. I wish we had the time to go over each one of the keys. Tell me one couple that comes to mind, Audrey, that you have helped, that makes it all worthwhile.
AUDREY: Well one couple came to one of our conferences and they got all the keys, and they implemented them. They became face to face again. They became knowing they could be irresistible to each other again. And afterwards, they said, “We were separated for eight months. We were signing our divorce papers next week, and we came here, and we are going to go home and tell our three little kids that our marriage is safe, and that we’re going to stay together.” And I said, “How in the world did you come to a marriage conference together? What led you to come here?” And she said, “Well I was listening to the Christian radio station and I called in, and I won free tickets, and I couldn’t resist something free.”
SID: Now that’s called a Holy Ghost setup. But I feel like the spirit of God has told me to warn you right now, stop. That imagination Jesus taught is as bad as committing the sin. Cut it out. Say out loud every time you’re tempted by that thought, “Blessed are the pure in heart.” That little leaven will leaven the whole loaf. You cannot use that vain imagination any more. God is telling me to tell you, stop it, in Jesus’ name.
