Monthly Archives: October 2011

Sid Roth welcomes Delores Winder

Date: October 20, 2011
Author: sidroth
Categories: Its Supernatural

Sid: And I’ll tell you something, if you’ve been listening all this week you can’t help but be red hot for the Messiah. Its Supernatural.  My guest Delores Winder, just out of the blue in 1956, she began to have what they diagnosed as advanced osteoporosis which started causing her bones to get old and brittle way before their time.  The disease progressed and her organs started shutting down, she had a body cast, body brace, neck brace, the worse pain a human could have.  And the last step before someone dies when their pain is so unbearable is where they literally burn out the nerve centers in the brain so that the part of the body that’s experiencing the pain feels nothing, it’s not a reversible surgery, they did two of these surgeries on her.  She found out about Kathryn Kulman, who has a great healing ministry, but of course although she was a strong Christian, she did not believe in healing.  But she felt like the Lord said that her youngest son, she would get a revelation on what to do with him because she was going to die any day now.  And incidentally that son literally said to his mother just out of the blue, “You’re going to be healed, Mom.  And so she goes to this meeting, she gets her answer, because she was introduced to the Holy Spirit and had a vision that the Holy Spirit will be around her young son and take care of him.  And all of a sudden something happened that not’s suppose to happen.  Her legs were on fire, a medical doctor from Johns Hopkins had a Word of Knowledge; he persuades her to take off her body cast and she comes forward and she finds she’s able to walk, she able to bend down.  And then Kathryn Kulman touches her and I guess you Delores, you were in so much shock that when you went down in the Spirit you probably didn’t think, this can’t happen because already you are moving your legs yourself off the ground.  All you could do before is kind of shuffle and you could feel things.  So what’s going on inside of that brain of yours?

Delores:  I don’t think I can really tell you because it wasn’t till I felt as though it had to be somebody else and not me.

Sid: Well, the woman that took you, okay you get in your car, you’re driving home, what’s the conversation like?

Delores: We’ll, I have to back up a minute here because Dr. O’Ellen met me out in the lobby after it was over and he said to me “Delores, I need to caution you about something.”  And I thought, “Oh here it comes, here’s the catch.”  And he said, “Satan’s going to try to tell you that you haven’t been healed.  Now I was in church all my life, we never talked about Satan and I backed off from him and he said, “Just remember what I cautioned you about.”  And I went home wondering what were these people like, what would he mean by that?  We got out to the car and Dale said, put your cast on.  And I said no.  And so I wouldn’t put the cast on again and she said, I’m afraid to take you home without it.  And I said, “No.” And finally we started home.  And then she said to me, what are you going to tell Bill?  And I thought oh my, I don’t know and so we were both pretty much in a fog and when we got home, she was driving Bill’s car, but she parked across in her driveway.  And they were very anxious because it was very late and Chris was watching opened the door, saw me step out of the car for the first time in his life by myself.   Dale said to me, “I’m not going over with you, I don’t know what happened.”  And I said, “I can’t go over alone.”  Well, Chris came over and grabbed me around the waist and started carrying me, and he was saying, “You were healed, you were healed.”  We went into the house; Bill said to me, “All right where is your cast?”  And I said, “It’s in the car.”  And he said, “All right let’s get her to bed.  And Chris said, “Can we go to church in the morning and I said, yes.”  Bill said, “Chris, will, talk about this tomorrow let’s get her to bed.  And I slept in a valley of a hospital bed and Bill got me to bed in that position and I slept, but he said to me, he was in his bed and he said to me, no that was the next day.  He said “That I don’t think that you could get in that cast now.”  And I tried it on because I was straight the cast was made for a crooked body.  So this is what happened and I had to learn something, the whole Bible is real, it’s truth and in meeting the Holy Spirit he changed everything.  Because I knew that I knew God was with me and He was right there and he took care of things.  He managed the whole show.

Sid:Its Supernatural. Well, tell me what happened when you went for the first time to your doctor?

Delores: Ha, well I called and made an appointment and I told them “Don’t tell him I’m coming in” and so he came into the room and saw me sitting there and he said, “Delores what are you doing here?” because, he was waiting for Bill to call him and tell him I was dead.  And I said, “I want you to check me.”  And he said, “Something has happened to you, you look different, what do you want me to check?  I said, “Everything.”  So he got me up, stood me up and the nurses were all holding me and he said bend over and he was trying to bend me and I just pushed their hands aside and just went down and touched the floor.  And I stood up and turned around to look at him.  And he said, “Let me see your sore.”  That was the first thing he thought about.  And I showed him my sore, and he said, “It scared over, what happened?”  And I said, “No, I want you to check everything.” I got on the table, could turn over by myself.

Sid: Oh, “What was happed to that bone that was sticking out?”

Delores: It was still out, but it had covering over it of flesh.  And then he started checking and running his hands, his fingers down and said doesn’t that hurt?”  Up where the shoulder I could still feel in and I said, “No.”  And then he said to me “I suppose you want me to use the pin too?”  He said, “Your spine is straight.”  And I said, “Yes, I want you to use the pin,” and he barely touched my right foot with the sharp point.”  And I said, “It’s sharp,” and he said, “Tell me what happened, but let me sit down.” Sid Roth.  And he sat down on his stool and he started crying, and I knew that somehow he knew that this happened a different way and it would be logical because I was a very logical person and I told him what happen, and I said, “Then tell me another way that this could have happened?”  And he said, “Delores this is truly a miracle of God and you have work to do for Him.”

Sid: Now Delores, that doctor didn’t realize how prophetic he was but some strange things, good things started happening to you like your hands you would feel almost like electric currents were going through your hands.  And there would be spots in your hands that would be burning hot, what did you do when that happened?

Delores: Tried to hide my hands, not touch anyone, I really fought this because it was not according to my way.

Sid: Well, you were teaching a Bible study one day and someone brushed against you, of which you had no control over that, and what happened to that person?

Delores: Well, they fell over and…

Sid: And you know it was the Spirit of God just went out of you and just knocked them down to the floor.

Delores: Yes, and it happened to about five people before I could get out of there Sid Roth.  I was trying to get out without any disturbance, but I’m afraid the Holy Spirit disturbed the whole thing and He was working and doing a job.

Sid: And then you sat down and got some counsel from a pastor that said, “Find out what happened to these people.”  Well, what happened to these people?

Delores: Well, the first woman was so incredible, she had not cried in eighteen years.  Her father was an alcoholic and the children dare not cry and he would beat them.  Her grandfather died, she loved her grandfather and the father came home after the grandfather had died and she was crying in her room and he went in and beat her so bad that she couldn’t even get up and go to the funeral.  And she had not cried in eighteen years and she got up off the floor and thought someone had poured water on her; she was crying and the tears started flowing and how wonderful it was.  Another woman was healed of arthritis and just different things.

Sid: Kathryn Kulman you use to say “Arthritis that’s automatic.” Until one doctor walked up and said, “Miss Kulman don’t you know that there’s no cure for arthritis?”

Delores: That’s right, that’s right.

Sid: But it was automatic for her almost, she had so many people healed of arthritis.  When did you realize that when this electric current went through you and you prayed for people that they got healed?

Delores: I wasn’t even praying for people Sid Roth.

Sid: Just touched them.

Delores: It was happening and I wanted Bill to move away where no one would know what happened to me and we could just go on with our life and he said, “God didn’t heal you for me to hide you, I can’t do that.”  And it was very difficult because we had a marriage to be renewed, we had a family life that needed taken care of and I just wanted to do that.  But found that I couldn’t and it seemed, Bill said, “Someone would know you regardless of where we would go.” – Its Supernatural.

Sid Roth welcomes David Herzog

Date: October 13, 2011
Author: sidroth
Categories: Its Supernatural

Sid: And when you live constantly in the glory the manifest tangible think, rich, loving presence of the Living God you’ll provoke everyone to jealousy.  And as my friend David Herzog, who I have on the telephone says, that this is Heaven on earth, experiencing a little of Heaven twenty-four seven.  I can’t think of anything better.  I can’t think of any junk the devil could throw at you that would cause you to be worry.  As a matter of fact, David Herzog, when you are in the thick glory of God, if you want to worry, can you?

David: If you want to worry?  Yeah, it’s really hard you have to really have to fight do it because it’s hard to worry when you are full of the joy, love and peace of God.

Sid: I know when I got saved it was so strong when the glory of God came into my bedroom.   I like to say because it’s true; I went to bed so fearful that I didn’t want to wake up.  Life was too hard, and when I woke up it was so wonderful, all I wanted to do was live and if I wanted to worry I could not worry.  Tell me about some creative miracles that have occurred when you enter the glory realm.

David: Creative miracles that have occurred in the glory, yeah all kinds of miracles.  I’ll be in the glory realm with God, in the meetings of course and in the meetings I’ll give a word of knowledge and I’ll say someone has this, someone has that.  Blind eyes, someone has blind eyes, open up.  And I was in Asia recently in Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore every one of those countries blind eyes opened up, paralytics was being healed.  So one word, just saying a word the body parts starts to respond.  What I found out is that the body parts, everything on the earth in fact actually responds to voice commands.  Everything was created with a command and when you’re in the glory and command creation it listens to you again.

Sid: Now out of curiosity, I understand when someone has a word of knowledge that I’m shocked if someone doesn’t say I’ve been healed; when I have a word of knowledge, but your saying that you can proclaim the promises of God in glory without a word of knowledge and it will manifest.  Is that what I’m hearing you say?

David: I’m saying yeah you can do that, but you can also speak to the body part and say in the Name of Jesus, like Ezekiel spoke to the bones.  God said prophesy to the bones themselves and tell the bones to come together, prophesy to them and so creation responds to voice commands when it’s in the glory because that’s how it was created.  So body parts respond when you speak to them; even scientist confirming this now and it’s an amazing thing that everything created responds to voice commands but especially if it’s in the presence and the power and glory of God.  Like when God told Moses speak to the rock don’t just hit it speak to it; speak to this mountain.

Sid: Is it almost the difference between a healing and a miracle.  A healing could be very very gradual, but in the glory realm it’s instant?

David: I think so because it’s instant because in Genesis 1. That’s what created everything it was the Spirit of the Glory was hovering and 2.  Sound, He spoke.  And so when you have those two elements once again you can see even body parts recreated like metal plates back to bone.  You get glory and then you speak, a lot of faith guys just speak, confess by faith but it doesn’t happen instant.  The instant I believe the missing ingredient is the glory with the spoken Word.

Sid: Tell me more about how creative miracles occur in the glory realm.

David: Yeah, okay.  So when you’re speaking to a body part, if God used glory and created everything in Genesis One, I found out that like everything created has atoms and stuff and at the sub atomic level there is a sound wave inside that atom and that sound wave responds to voice commands so you say in the Name of Jesus, you know metal plates turn back to bone.  Teeth turn back to and that little sound wave inside of those teeth or those bones responds when you are in the glory and you’re speaking to it, it will shift forms and recreates itself anyway.  Every three months your bones recreate, every four weeks your skin cells recreate but in the glory you can command it to accelerate its own healing process.  So when you are in the glory that created everything it’s simple to see God recreate everything.  If the original ingredient that created an object is present you can recreate the object.

Sid: Now, one of the signs that occurs in the glory realm when you minister is instant weight loss.  When did that first start happening with you?

David: Weight loss started happening, I was up in Ruth Heflin’s camp meeting and speaking up there and I started seeing it happen up there with different ministers.  And when I saw that happen, I said, “Wow that is amazing.”  And I remember one day I said, “God I’m so hungry for this, I want to see this happen.”  And I went up and there was an offering and I just sowed into this anointing kind of thing and said, “God, I worship You and I love You and I just want to give to You,” kind of in a way honoring God what I’m seeing.  And two weeks later I start ministering God starts telling me to call out instant weight loss miracles, and it seems like I receive an impartation and then suddenly I start seeing crazy off the hook weight loss, even up to seventy pounds in one meeting.

Sid: I can testify, I have been at some meetings with David Herzog and I have seen the instant weight loss and then I did the investigative reporter thing, I walked up to the people and talked to them, and this one guy told me, each night he went to the meeting he was losing more and more weight.  It was a progressive thing that was going on.  But tell me about one specific person that lost weight.

David: Yeah, my favorite one is this one in Jackson, Tennessee and I’m in the meeting and God says, “I want you to declare, there is a man here that needs to lose a lot of weight, tell him to grab his pants and very quickly because they’ll fall if he doesn’t hold his pants up; an tell him to run around the room.  And the man looked like he was almost 300 pounds, got up and just took off running.  It was like a Mack truck running; everyone got out of the way.  Ha ha and then he looked like a rapper, I mean his pants were so baggy, it was ridiculous he lost seventy pounds, 70.  It was amazing and the pastor, he knows the man very well, he said, this is a miracles.  And we’ve seen this over and over again.  Los Vegas we saw twenty people lose about five dress sizes, North Dakota forty pounds and Israel in Jerusalem we filmed this on our show, a lady was losing weight as we were standing there, everybody was watching her shrink, it was amazing.  And people, and I think it’s a modern day miracles, people say “Why don’t we see that in the Bible?  Well, probably they didn’t have McDonald’s and cars and fast food in the Bible so it’s a modern day need.

Sid: But it also says in the gospel that if all the miracles that Jesus did were recorded there wouldn’t be enough books to contain it.

David: Yeah, maybe He did some of those or maybe He says also, “In the last days there will be signs and wonders, I’m going to go be with the Father, but there will be continuous signs.”  So that’s hard, if I was to make jokes about the gold teeth they would say where’s that in the Bible, the fillings?  Well, I’d say just use this scripture, open your mouth and I will fill it, says the Lord.

Sid: Now have you ever seen the dead come back to life under the glory?

David: Yeah, we did in Africa, I was in a meeting and God told me the first night of this big, I don’t want to call it crusade so I’ll call it campaign.  What thousands of people out door so whatever you want to call that.  And I get up there and God says, I want you to announce that a woman has come here from a hospital, her daughter is dying and she is hoping her daughter gets healed by her coming to the meeting.  But I want you to announce that her daughters dead.”  So I announce this and this woman starts screaming and crying and sure enough it was her.  And I said, “Which direction is the hospital?”  And they point to it and so she’s thinking if I come to this meeting maybe my daughter will get healed.  The doctors told her, “Don’t leave, your daughters about to die.”  I announce that she’s dead, they point to the hospital the direction of it where ever it was and I begin commanding her spirit to come back into her body right there in the meeting publically.  Then I continue on with the meeting, we have a lot of salvations and miracles.  And she gets to the hospital after the meeting and they told her, your daughter died, we told you not to leave,” they had covered her with a sheet.  But they said, “After you left at a certain moment,” which was around the time that we were calling her spirit back in her body, “The sheet began to move and she came back from the dead.”

Sid: What about things like cancer?

David: Oh yeah, we see cancers die all the time, cysts, growths, cancers, cause cancer again is like the fig tree, Jesus cursed the fig tree.  You can curse cancer and it can die, you can speak a creative miracle and you can speak something like cancer to be uncreated.

Sid: How much something like arthritis?

David: Oh yeah, we see that all the time, last week end we saw it every night.  Arthritis, a lot of times arthritis pain comes when two nerves touch each other, it causes pain to shoot.  So in the glory realm you have authority over creation, body parts can hear you.  You command the body parts, when you are in the presence arthritis to be healed you know.  And a lot of times I use the visual, now some people will just say, in Jesus Name, and I find out it depends what level of intensity that you are speaking at.  One person can say, “Be healed” and nothing happens and another one says it and they seem to get healed instantly.  And I found out, it’s a combination of things.  When I’m speaking of things, I’m seeing a visual of the body part, so I’m using my mind and letting God use my mind to see it; then I’m trying to increase my faith level, my compassion for the people.  So you can be saying the same word at a 90% level, someone else could be saying it at a 10% level.  So it depends on what level you are speaking, not the actual words.

Sid: Well, how do you do it at 100% level?

David: Get in the highest glory possible, when you’re speaking it see that thing healed as you’re saying it.  Make sure your emotions are in there, your compassion for the person, faith, let everything be on a high and a lot higher focus and intensity in the glory will be much quicker.  It’s like when they cast out demons in the Bible, the Pharisee tried to do it, but they didn’t know what they were doing, they were just saying it but they did have that intimacy with Jesus to really do it.

Our Guest John Waller

Date: October 7, 2011
Author: sidroth
Categories: Its Supernatural

Sid: Hello. Sid Roth here with John Waller. And John, when you were going through this you were really in the darkest pit of your life. The record deal didn’t work out. This was what was going to make you happy. This was what was going to get rid of your depression. And a couple comes into your life. What happened?

John: Well at my lowest point, I was at the bottom. I really was. And I was angry with God. I was disillusioned over losing this dream. But my sister, one of my youngest sisters, asked if she could bring a couple over to my home to minister to me, and I said sure. I was open to anything. They come over to my house and started just prophesying over my life. You know, I was at my lowest point. I just lost a dream, you know, and they’re looking at me and saying, “The Lord is about to promote you.” And I’m thinking, the Lord is going promote me? What are you talking about? He started just speaking into my life about what the Lord was about to do in my life, and that He was going to use me to set the captive free. But here I was a man who was not free. How could the Lord use me and set the captive free if I’m in such bondage? And so they offered to pray for me and they prayed for me in a way that I’d never been prayed for before. They pulled out some oil and they anointed my head with oil, and they prayed for me, and I felt the presence of the Holy Spirit come upon me in a way that was so tangible, and I felt the heat in my body. I felt the presence of God come over me. And I knew when they said amen, when it was done, something supernatural had occurred. I didn’t know what. I just knew something had broken in the spirit realm off of me.

Sid: And then you moved to Colorado and you didn’t tell your wife that you had cut down on your medication for depression. Why didn’t you tell your wife?

John: Well we moved to Colorado. My wife had been a teacher all these years and we had great benefits. We moved to Colorado. I became a worship pastor. She didn’t have a job. We didn’t have insurance. So I was taking four different kinds of medications, and medication is expensive. If I were to pay for it out of pocket, it would hundreds of dollars a month. So I knew God had done something in my life and I knew something had changed. So I took less and less medication. And then all of a sudden, the medication was gone, but I didn’t tell her it was gone, because I knew that might upset her or scare her.

Sid: She knew what you were like without medication.

John: She knew, I mean, I could go without medication in the bad days for two or three days. If I missed two or three days, I could really spin out of control. And so I had gone for like two to three months before I told her that I was not taking medication any more.

Sid: And let’s go to a clip and find out what she thought about that.

Josie: I remember he came to me in the kitchen and told me that it had been a while since he had taken any medication. And I was like, I had no clue. And I was just floored, you know. I started to think back over the last few months and just, you know, the changes that I had seen in him, I was like, I thought maybe it just the medication and the change because we had just moved to Colorado. You know, new environment. And then I began to see him really just dive into God’s Word and learn to study his true identity in Christ and study blessing. And he became a student of the Word, and began to speak and declare it over my children and I. And our family changed. There was so much more peace in our home and I know that began writing songs from a new found place of peace and freedom in Christ Jesus.

Sid: John you became a free man. It’s so wonderful to be free. And what I love is that when you sing other people get free. Tell me about, because you then started writing songs after, but you took about a year’s sabbatical where you just studied the Word and started saying God’s Word wherever you went. Did that make a difference to you?

John: Absolutely. I would take the Word of God. I would put it on a note card and I would memorize it, and I would just speak it out loud. I would pray it out loud constantly because, you know, the Bible says that, “Life and death are in the power of the tongue, and those it eat its fruit.” If simple words like “He’s got it” and a doctor saying, “Yes, he’s got depression” and diagnosing me, if those words can bring so much pain and death into my life, then how much more the Word of God can bring life to those who declare it and believe it, and speak it. And so I write songs that just declare the Word of God and speak it over people.

Sid: You know, when I heard the song, “Our God Reigns”, that’s what got me so excited about having you on this show. But tell me a little bit about the history of that song.

John: Well I was on a mission trip to Wales and we visited a town called Aberfan. And back in the ’60s, there was a tragedy. It was a coalmining town. And so they had a huge landslide that they didn’t see coming, but it wiped out this elementary school. Killed all these children and it just broke my heart to hear the story. But someone made the comment about the town that there’s a darkness that hovers over this town and that to this day, the spirit of death reigns over this town, and that there’s multiple suicides every year. And so that didn’t sit right with me. And so I began to write a song that would come against spirits like the spirit of death, the spirit of fear, the spirit of oppression.

Sid: You know what? If you go to the music set right now, I prophesy to you that as he sings this song you are going to be healed. Depression is going to go. This is, there is such a strong anointing. John Waller, “Our God Reigns”.

John: Spirit of death you have no place here. I command you to leave in Yeshua’s name. Spirit of fear you have no place here. I command you to leave in Jesus’ name. You’re not welcome here. So go. Spirit of doubt you have no place here. I command to leave in Yeshua’s name. Envy and jealousy you have no place here. I command you to leave in Jesus’ name and go back from whence you came. Our God reigns here. Our God reigns here. We claim this ground in Yeshua’s name ’cause our God reigns. Our God reigns here. Our God reigns here. The battle is won. Have no fear ’cause God reigns here. Hunger and rage, guilt and shame, I command you to leave in Yeshua’s name. Depression, anxiety, addiction, infirmity, I command you to leave in Jesus’ name and go back from whence you came. Our God reigns here. Our God reigns here. We claim this ground in Jesus’ name ’cause our God reigns.