Sid: Hello. Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. I am so concerned about what might happen to the United States of America in September, and that’s why I’m going to take you shortly to Jerusalem, Israel. I’m going to be interviewing a friend of mine, Shira Sorko Ram. Shira immigrated to Israel in 1967. What a historic date, Jerusalem in Jewish hands for the first time in thousands of years. And she was there to see what was happening. And Shira has been, had a Molotov cocktail tossed into her apartment because she’s an outspoken Messianic Jew. But she is the most insightful, prophetic reporter I know in the Middle East. Shira, Shalom.

Shira: Shalom, Sid. Glad to be with you.

Sid: Shira, what a time to be in Israel, 1967, Jerusalem in Jewish possession for the first time in thousands of years. Tell me what it was like living in Israel in ’67.

Shira: Well it truly was one of the highest, greatest moments of all of Israel’s history. Yitzhak Rabin, who later became the Prime Minister, here’s how he felt, and it’s how the whole nation felt. He said, “I felt truly shaken and stood there murmuring a prayer for peace.” This is when he first saw the Western Wall. And he said, “Multi guerillas of paratroopers were struggling to reach the wall and to touch it. We stood among a tangle of rugged battle-weary men who were unable to believe their eyes or restrain their emotions. Their eyes were moist with tears, their speech incoherent. The overwhelming desire was to cling to the Wall, to hold on to that great moment as long as possible.” When I got here, that’s what people were talking about. They were saying the days of Messiah are here. The Israelis just couldn’t stay out of the old city. They swarmed through every little store and place, and the Arabs were stunned at the victory that Israel had, and Israel had immediately cleared out that whole area around the Western Wall. And so there were just thousands and thousands of people, 24 hours a day, down at the Western Wall. The country was in euphoria. People were saying there will never be another war again. The Arabs have finally learned the lesson and it is the days of Messiah.

Sid: And you were telling me that moment when so many Israelis at the Western Wall sang a song that’s very popular in Israel, “Jerusalem of Gold”. What was that like?

Shira: Well we were heading towards the old city on Yom Ha’atzmaut, which was the Independence Day, which was the first independence day of a united Jerusalem. And actually, the crowd was so great that I only got as far as Jaffa Gate, which is the main western gate. And there in front of me were thousands, perhaps a couple a hundred thousand people, and they all began singing just out of the blue, “Jerusalem of Gold.” It was the most amazing moment of my life. I knew that something was connecting me with Israel that I had not dreamed of before. And again, the people were saying, this is the time of the Bible. These are Bible days again. And these were, many of these people didn’t even believe in God, and they certainly didn’t know about the true Messiah. But they saw that we were entering the last days.

Sid: Shira, many members of our audience do not know the history of Israel. The history of Israel is miracle after miracle, after miracle. Could you give us a very brief snapshot of the history of modern day Israel.

Shira: Well you know, the sad thing is that the British Empire had the opportunity to create Israel and they messed up. In 1917, they delivered a declaration that the Holy Land, that Palestine was going to be a homeland for the Jews. But over the next few years, they would back on that. They gave 76 percent to the Hashemite Jordanian government. And then what was left, they decided to divide that up again, and finally they just raised their hands, left a lot of their weapons to the Arabs and took off, and left it to the U.N. So Britain really missed the greatest opportunity that was ever given to them. And you know, when Britain went into World War II, it was said that the sun never sets on their empire. And when Britain came out of World War II, after turning its back on Israel, there was nothing left of it except a few islands, like the Falkland Islands.

Sid: What do you personally account for that happening? What is the cause that Britain went from being like the United States of America to almost third world?

Shira: The Bible says, “I will bless those who bless you,” meaning the seed of Abraham, “and I will curse those who curse you.” In 1939, when Hitler was gathering up his troops to exterminate the Jewish and it succeeded in six million, the British put out what’s called the “White Paper” and said only 75,000 Jews a year can come to the Holy Land, and after 1944, whatever the Arabs say can come. And so the millions of Jews who could have come back to the Land of Israel were instead destroyed in Hitler’s ovens. And I do believe that there is no greater sign of a curse than for an empire like England to lose almost everything she had.

Sid: Now I want to correct one thing that I said. They didn’t go third world, but they lost most of the nations that they had. They went from one of the more powerful nations in the world history to being, and also ran, so to speak. Now I’m setting the stage for you right now to find out what is about to happen if America makes the wrong decision in September. Don’t go away. Be right back after this word.

Sid:  Now my guest Brenda Kunneman cannot speak enough about what most Christians are missing because they’ve either never spoken in unknown tongues or they’ve spoken it and they’ve stopped because “Christian society has stopped.”  But Brenda prays forously in tongues and other times quietly in tongues; people get healed when she does that as we found out on yesterday’s broadcast.  She even gets names of people; tell me about someone whose name you got Brenda.

Brenda:  Well, I was preaching in a meeting in another country and it was actually in a women’s conference and I had just been asking God for supernatural manifestations so I called out this name and it was the name Angel.  I said, “Your name is Angel.”  Now you know I always try to encourage people, I said your name is Angel or your, it sounds to me in the Spirit like you have a Father that called you by that name.  So if either your real name is Angel or maybe that was a nickname, come up here.  Well the funniest thing happened, now this is a woman’s conference 3 or 4,000 people there and a man comes up!  I’m like, a man, I said, “How did you even get in here, this is a meeting?”  He said, “Well I was doing some work in the back with the equipment and he said, I heard you say Angel.”  He said, “My name is Angel and so I began to prophecy some things about his destiny and then I stopped and I said, “The Lord tells me and I ministered to him; and then I said now, how many times you call out in a woman’s conference and a man comes, I mean that was supernatural by itself.  But I said, “Somebody else in here and I hear the Lord said you almost didn’t come to this meeting, you traveled a distance and you came here desperate for the manifestation of healing for your child.  You almost did not come, in fact God says, “You were feeling guilty about leaving your child;  your child in another city somewhere else, you felt guilty about leaving, God says and your name is “Angel” God says, don’t feel guilty, your child is about to receive a miracle.”   This woman is standing there next to this man named Angel; are you with me?  Standing there next to this man and she’s crying and crying and crying and she says, “My Father always nicknamed me Angel and I came here I just gave birth to a little baby and the baby is premature and the baby is back home.” in fact we weren’t in the United States, we were in Latin America.  And she said, “The baby’s back in the US; I almost didn’t come to this meeting, but something in me and I was suppose to come here;” and she said, “I came here anyway in fact my family and people criticized me; they said, “How can you leave your child on the incubator in this hospital and she said, I don’t know, just something drew me and I came.”  And I spoke to her and I pointed at her by the Spirit of God and I said, “Woman go home, you’re child’s healed from this hour.”  I got testimony later and I found this out, I was visiting in another church here in the US and a lady came up to me and she said, “You know I’m this woman’s pastor.”  I just want you to know she was at that meeting and she mentioned this lady; this was probably six months later.  She said, “You called her out, which you didn’t know that this child was home sick, the doctor’s had given a bad report, she is premature and when she got home, just as you spoke her child was off the tubes, her child was breathing, and the doctors said, you’re baby is going to make it.”  Now, this all happened in a matter of a few hours from the time that God called her out.  See, these are the levels of supernatural power God wants to manifest through His people.  This is the kind of supernatural occurrences that we’re living in this hour and that’s why I mean there’s a desperate world that needs this level of manifestation.  And so from the time I spoke that, which we did the timing, from the time I spoke God said, “Your child’s healed from this hour,” that baby within hours was completely made well.  And that’s the kind of manifestation of the power of God that I see God wanting to bring the church into.  It will look like the shores of Galilee; it’ll look like the early church like the Gate Beautiful when Peter and John walked up to the man at the Gate Beautiful and said “Such as, arise and walk!”  That’s where God wants to bring the church and listen we’re seeing it Sid all over the world; fingers growing out, people getting healed.

Sid:  Finger’s growing out?

Brenda:  Fingers, I’m getting reports, I haven’t seen this personally, but I’m getting reports of people that are having fingers growing out.  I had a woman here in my own experience; I had a woman who we prayed for, in fact she didn’t believe in the supernatural.  Get this, she did not even believe in the supernatural; we laid hands on her, I prayed for her, she came up and you know I felt like man, man she looked like man she looked like she was going to bite me, I could tell she only went up because her friend told her, she said, “She had kidney stones.” Her friend said, “Get up there and get prayer and forced her to go to the front;” she didn’t even believe in healing, she didn’t believe in this Holy Spirit, she didn’t even believe there be any Holy Ghost and she went up to the front and I went and prayed for her and I remember this, this is so funny I remember this, she looked mad, you know, I thought oh, I prayed for her and she looked at me with that face and I thought my gosh. I went on and prayed for other people; and all of a sudden somebody came up from the back, this was in this meeting, came up from the back and said, “That lady you prayed for, she was my friend I brought her, she went in the back, she had terrible kidney stones, she went in the back in the bathroom and said she passed them and she’s totally not in any pain.  She didn’t even believe in the power of God, now she believes, the woman was saved, it is a total transformation of a life because of the supernatural anointing; this is why we need power in the church.

Sid:  Brenda, the whole week the presence of God has been sky high on our interview.  I would be remise before God if I didn’t ask you to pray prophetically for healing for people right now.

Brenda:  Yes, yes, if you are listening I want you to get ready to receive because I feel the presence of God right now!  You prepare yourself, some of you I hear by the Spirit of the Lord, you’re about to receive a complete turnaround in your body, in fact some of you I hear a heart problem, there’s somebody out there you have a heart problem that the doctors are saying bypass, bypass, bypass.  The Lord says, “I am going to bypass, I’m going to bypass what their speaking” in fact the Lord says “You won’t need the bypass, I’m going to bypass and they’re going to look at your heart and say “It looks like you had a heart transplant,” that’s what I hear God say, “It looks like you had a transplant we can’t even recognize the heart that we took pictures of weeks ago, it’s not the heart that you have now.”  I hear God say that, so I want to pray for people if need a creative miracles, if you need healing in your body, you just get ready to receive the presence of the Lord is here, it’s ready to heal right now.  So I stretch my hands Father to every person that’s listening over the airwaves right now, in the Name of Jesus and I decree the healing the healing power of God, I say tumors melt in the name of Jesus, tumors melt, I say body parts be whole, ligaments line up, I say fungus’s dry up right now in the Name of the Lord Jesus, I say eyes be open, cataracts be dissolved, I say to glaucoma you have no power I curse you at the root in the Name of Jesus; I say hair loss you cease and you stop in the Name of Jesus, in the Name of Jesus, I speak to the ligaments of osteoporosis, I speak to degenerative bone diseases and I say right now, right now I interrupt you by the power of the Living Lord Jesus the Messiah your power disease your disease is broken over person listening to the sound of my voice and right wow, I say miracle power go in fact,  in fact, in fact I hear this the Lord says, “That is you’ll believe it you’ll feel the physical manifestation moving through your body like fire in the Name of Jesus.  Healing, healing, and miracles be upon you now in Jesus Name, Amen, Amen.  Sid I believe that we are going to get reports.

Sid:  I know that and I had a vision of someone’s fingers not necessarily growing, but pain of any kind in the fingers or any problem in the fingers or even growing.  God is doing something with fingers right now in Jesus name.  And Brenda, if you were to put it in a couple of sentences, why should people read your new book?  “The Supernatural You.”

Brenda:  Because I want them to learn they are anointed.  What we just prayed they can do, they can do, they don’t need necessarily someone else.  That is a dimension of God, but they are anointed, they have the same power that when Jesus walked the earth, the early apostles.  And I teach you step by step in the book how to release your own anointing, that’s the key, your own anointing.  How to pray the kind of prayers that produce miracles, that’s what we want, that’s what we’re hungry for the kind of prayer that produce miracles.  How to literally experience the supernatural for yourself, everywhere you go, every place you walk, every place you drive in your car when you go to work.

Sid:  Brenda Kunneman has just written a brand new book called “The Supernatural You” which is literally a handbook to convince you and then teach you that the power that is in the top evangelist the world has ever known, that same power that is in Jesus, is in you and it’s time, I mean your name is being called to come to the front and center stage; are you going to say yes or no?  Brenda I love the analogy of comparing the source of God’s power to a river.  Tell me a bit about that.

Brenda:  Well, of course you know that Jesus is really the one that gave us this concept, He said in John 7:37–39 “If any man thirsts, let him come to Me and take a drink.”  That means anybody, I don’t care if you think you’re the pinky toe of the body of Christ, you know it’s a common analogy I use, if you think that you are the most insignificant part.  If you’re thirsty, you come take a drink, it’s available for you and He said, “He that believes on Me as the scriptures said, out his own belly,” that means your spirit.  So if you’re listening today, I want to encourage you that out of your spirit the Holy Spirit, if you’re filled with Him, will make that river source available for you to do signs, wonders, and miracles.  Now I know, I hear by the Spirit there is somebody out there; you need a desperate miracles in your finances today.  I mean that there are so many people that are hungry for miracles, but I know that there are somebody listening that you are like if you don’t have a miracle tomorrow that you’re like you don’t know what else you’re going to do.  In fact, I hear that you are in foreclosure in the house and the Lord is saying that there is miracle right now in your mouth.  Speak it, release the miracle, that river is waiting to flow; you just release the miracle, say and this is the way that I hear God say it, God is saying, “What do you want me to do?”  Just decree the thing and it shall be established; let Me show you my power; let me show you My miracle.  So I want to encourage somebody with that that’s listening.  You have a river that is available to flow through you to do the most unusual signs and wonders, through the power of the Holy Spirit. Let me encourage people that are listening that the same God; now I hear this so closely, the same God that said, “Light, come into existence,” is the same God that is working in you.  The same God that parted the Red Sea, the same God that parted the waters of the Red Sea, the same God that did all the signs and wonders in Egypt, the same God, that healed people on the shore of Galilee, He is in your own spirit.  What are you waiting for?  You are anointed and so I want to encourage you as you’re listening you can release the anointing.  Now if I could just give you a few pointers that will help you because I’ve done these things in my own life and I’ve seen some of the most incredible supernatural occurrences when I’ve put certain principals to practices.  Number 1: Pray in the Spirit, and I believe in a few moments we are going to be able to pray for some people to get filled with the Holy Spirit and in fact you don’t even have to make it hard.  I didn’t make it hard; I got filled with the Holy Spirit in the bathroom.  I walked in, and said, “Holy Spirit, fill me,” and I spoke in tongues.  Well, people say well I don’t know if I could do that.  Well, yeah you can, just open your mouth and in fact if you are listening and your just thinking, man I would love to try that, just do it.  Let me encourage you, just do it.

Sid:  But, they don’t know what to say, some of them are saying.

Brenda:  Just move your mouth, move your tongue.

Sid:  And that’s the deal, you won’t know what to say, you won’t hear it until you say it.

Brenda:  That’s right and…

Sid:  You won’t walk on water till you move your own legs, you won’t talk even in English until you move your own tongue and you start making sounds.  So do something by faith just start speaking.

Brenda:  I walked in the bathroom and I said, “Holy Spirit, fill me and I said, well I might as well start and I moved my mouth and went ba, ba, ba,” and now I started praying in tongues.  And so it started out what sounded like it was just me, but there is that.  If you’ll step out on the waters, if you find the greatest miracles of scriptures when people stepped out and did the miracles.  It wasn’t because they waited for God to wallop them on side of the head and then they went out and did a miracle.  They stepped out in the supernatural because it is a walk of faith.  You half to believe it before you see it, and so I’ve seen by taking these steps of the supernatural I’ve have seen some of the most incredible occurrences in my own life, I couldn’t even list.  And could I just say this if this is okay for the listeners?  It is so much better to live that way to know that you have a resource from God to do and to work and to bring about miraculous occurrences every time.  It’s so much better than feeling like you are on your own.  I mean I can pull on that river anointing for whatever I need at any moment, I can call on it.  But I want to kind of give some of the believer’s a few principals that I think would help them.  If you’re filled with the Holy Spirit to tap into that power:  No. 1. Believe that you are anointed.  Jesus, the first thing that He said in 1 John 4:18 “The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me.”  He had to stand up and decree, it was the first way that he started his ministry, went into the wilderness, came out of the wilderness, the Bible says that He went into the wilderness in Luke 4 to be tempted of the devil, when he left the wilderness the Bible said He came back in the Spirit of Power and the first thing He said was, “I’m anointed.”  So if you want to be used in the anointing you decree a thing, say: “I’m anointed.”

Sid:  I’m anointed.

Brenda:  I have the power of God upon me.

Sid:  I have the power of God upon me.

Brenda:  God wants you to go and minister, to pray for the sick I always say I’m anointed.  These hands are anointed.

Sid:  These hands are anointed.

Brenda:  My body is anointed.

Sid:  My body is anointed.

Brenda:  When I do that, it ignites the faith that I have for that river to begin to flow; that’s the first one, you have to believe it.  And the best way to believe something, and of course Sid we know this principal; you speak it to where your own ears can hear it.  And I’ve done this with people in conferences where thousands of people are there and people, people literally, you don’t have to lay hand son them, literally you know, tumors fall off.  People, I had a story of a lady I said, “Everybody, how many of you know that you are anointed?”  They began to scream and shout, this one lady brought a testimony the next night, she had been at that meeting, the next night she was healed, brought a doctor’s report, she had had a blood test, she was healed of HIV.  I mean I’m telling you, when people know what’s in them, they can receive self deliverance; they can step into the power of God.  They can see cancers healed, they can see they’re sick…they can see prodigals come back.  To call them back, believe that you are anointed.  Second is:  Pray in the Spirit.  Make a practice.

Sid:  How much do you pray in the Spirit?

Brenda:  I pray in the Spirit regularly, so that means sometimes, let me say it this way, sometimes I’ll set aside maybe an hour.  But you know I want to make people feel like wow, you know I’ve got to go pray and hour and you know especially you know that housewife and she’s just trying to get the kids on a schedule and you can, I’ve had my greatest times of praying in tongues while I’m cooking dinner in the evening, I just walk around, I pray in the Spirit, I pray in tongues while I’m getting ready.

Sid:  Well, I go out to the gym and I sit on an exercise bike and I guess a lot of people think I’m crazy, or a Hebrew word, Mischugah, but I redeem the time, I pray in tongues.  That gym is so anointed.

Brenda:  Yes, that is the way and praying in tongues is a doorway to those rivers of the Spirit, cause Jesus said it, He said the rivers, this He was speaking of the Spirit, John 7:38, “This He was speaking of the Spirit that should come after that was the sign that filled the believers on Pentecost.  They began to pray in tongues, as the Holy Spirit gave them utterance, so I find the more I pray in tongues, the more manifestations of the supernatural I have and so I would encourage people listening if you really want to see miracles, pray in the Spirit.  You have to believe it, same “I’m anointed,” and then you begin to pray in tongues.  Make a habit of it, just in throughout your daily life, include it, you can ride in the car, I think there is different dimensions of praying in the Spirit and I teach in the book about stepping into different dimensions of tongues, and so I would encourage the listeners to listen to that.  Or to read that because if you step into different dimensions of praying in tongues, see more occurrences.

Sid:  Well give me a few of the dimensions of praying in tongues.

Brenda:  Well, human beings kind of tend to be we don’t always to expressive, especially when you get over into Christendom, churches kind of trained us a little bit to, well you know this is how you have church and this is how you pray; and you sit down in your chair, or you kneel by your bed, and that’s all good, but I think there’s different kinds of praying in the Spirit.  Let me just kind of give you an example, I’ve had times where I’ve laid on the bed and just prayed in tongues, just above a whisper you know, just a little bit.  But then I’ve had other times where it comes out like a lion, like you know there are different kinds of water and I teach in the book, in the book of Genesis Chapter 1, there were four rivers that came out of Eden now represent different things; the river that went hedical that went toward Assyria was a raging river.  Hedical means raging, it means it was rapid water.  Then there was the river Euphrates, which means fruitful.  And so on some dimensions of tongues are like like warfare, there warring tongues and I’ve had times where I’ve had one occurrence where I was praying in the wildest tongues.  I mean just the unusual praying in tongue for a family that was in our church, their child was really sick and the doctors were giving a bad report and something just, I yielded myself, prayed in the Spirit.  I mean tongues that almost sounded unusual to your own ears and as I was praying, it just boom just came out of me, I think I was there twenty – thirty minutes and just intense praying in tongues and they called and said, “The doctor said the baby’s healed.”  That was one dimension of tongues.

Sid:  Brenda, we don’t have time we’ll pick up here on tomorrow’s broadcast.