Sid:  My guest, David Martin had an encounter with the Lord, two encounters in particular.  One in which he received and impartation to walk in holiness to have his spirit win the battle between his flesh.  And it came from what is called the “Shining Light Anointing” in Africa where the people live longer than anyone else in Africa and the people have so much glory that they’re faces shine.  That’s why it was called the Shining Light Anointing.  And then on a mountain top in Africa he received the resurrection impartation to walk in supernatural peace and victory no matter what this world throws at you.  Because he had received a vision of what is going to happen and according to the timing of what the Lord said it’s about ready to happen.  The worse time on planet earth.  But, it’s going to be the best time for believers.  And he prays for these two impartations on his course on “Spiritual Preparation for the End times.”  And this is mandatory for you, absolutely mandatory.  The presence of God is so strong when he teaches on the victory and the supernatural peace and the victory of your spirit over your carnal man.  For instances, David Martin you talk about expecting the miraculous.  You expect the miraculous, explain.

David:  One example that comes to my mind, Sid is in Luke 5 verse 17.  It talks about a whole multitude of people that were there in the room with Jesus.  And what’s interesting is that the Bible says the power of the Lord was present to heal them.  But, what’s interesting is that not one person in that multitude received anything.  The only person that’s going to receive anything comes later.  He comes on a cot with some friends that have faith, and what do they do, those friends literally, because they can’t even get near to Jesus they work their way through the multitude, get up on the roof, literally tear the roof apart and lowered the man down.  And what does Jesus say?  Jesus seeing their faith; and it was that one man out that whole multitude that received a miracle.  Sid, what I’ve come to see and learn is expectation and when you have expectation there is a determination, there’s a diligence, there’s a pressing through the obstacles that are in front of you and we see that Luke 6 verse 17.  Just the opposite scenario, here we see another great multitude of people, again from all these different regions; now this multitude unlike the first multitude, in Mark 5, this multitude it says, they all received.  Every one of them received.  What was the difference?  In verse 17 it says.  They came to hear and they came to be healed.  What I’ve recognized over my course of time in the supernatural is that expectation that is the foundation for the miraculous.

Sid:   How does someone have an expectation that believes God heals, believes God wants to heal them but year after year, they’ve had everyone and their brother pray for them.  They’ve prayed for themselves and they haven’t been healed.  Expectations kind of dies.

David:  Well, it does or it can in some cases.

Sid:  So what advice would you give someone in that predicament?

David:  Well, there’s lots of factors Sid.  I think simply, what Jesus said in Mark 4 to the disciples.  He told them to get in the boat and go to the other side.  That’s what I call the middle ground.  In the disciples’ middle ground, they were fearing for their lives and literally they practically woke up Jesus.  And Jesus literally, as we know, he rebukes the wind, he rebukes the waves and then he rebukes the disciples.  And He says, you know, they have a little less of faith there or they didn’t have any faith; but what happened is they needed to see the other side.  That’s what I tell people, they need to see the other side.  What happens is that so many people, they see their problem and I believe that’s the main reason why people aren’t getting what God has promised them.  As they continue to see the problem instead of the answer. 

Sid:  Tell me about some outrageous miracles that are going on in your ministry?  Like the person whose finger grew back.

David:  Ha ha.  Well, what’s interesting, we didn’t pray for her finger but you know the power of God is present and when the power of God is present, anything can happen.  And I prayed for this gal, she was actually in a prison.  I was ministering in a prison and she had received some gunshot wounds from a robbery and she literally came up for the wounds in her head.  And I was literally praying for the headache problems that she had, but the power of God was present.  You know Sid; I just feel that same power of God’s presence right now.  But the power was God was present to heal her head and as she was going back to her seat she noticed the finger, the tip of her finger that was shot off as well, was completely restored.  It was completely brand-new

Sid:  But, the presence of God is here to heal, would you pray right now?

David:  Oh my, I tell you, the power of God is here right now.  Father God I just thank you that your word says stir up the anointing by way of remembrance. And Father it is stirred up, Lord God you see the needs out there right now Father every type of need Father, whether it be spirit, whether it be soulish, whether it be physical.  Father God, I thank you that Your power is present to heal right now.  We just release the miracle power of Your Spirit to heal, the power to set free and the power right now, oh, I can feel it so strong Sid.  The power to open up eyes, the eyes that are blinded spiritually; I sense there are so many listening right now theirs’ spiritual blindness on you.  You’ve been deceived.  You’ve been mesmerized by the systems of this world and God wants you, he wants you to walk free from that which has got you blinded.  I just believe right now the power of God is present to cause your eyes to see the reality and the sections that you’ve been operating in to removed from you right now, in the Name of Jesus Father God, I just speak healing and liberty and freedom for Your glory in Jesus Name. 

Sid:  You know I feel such a tangible weight of God’s presence.  This is the type of thing that will happen when you listen to David Martin’s teaching.  For instance, you talked about not to look at the problem, but explain through meditating on the word how you can stop from looking at the problem.

David:  Well, Paul said in Ephesians 1 verse 17 that the Father of Glory would give unto you a spirit, the wisdom and revelation and the knowledge of Him.  That the eyes of your understanding being enlightened.  I believe that spirit of wisdom, is a word that God gives you from His word that you believe.  That’s what revealed really means.  It’s revealed to you.  You know that’s it true and then the eyes, that word eye in the Greek literally means “automahee.”  It means eyes wide open.  And the word understanding, literally in the Greek it’s a, depending which translation that you look at in the ancient text; it’s either dianoia, which is what King James uses which means, imagination.  Or New American Standard uses the word kardia.  But, anyway the bottom line is, the eye of your heart, it’s the eye of your imagination and it’s what you see and it says the eye of your understanding being enlightened.  And the word enlightened is where we get the word photograph literally.  It comes from the Greek word, photizo, which means to make something out of nothing using light.  So when people see that word of God and they mediate on the word of God, their imagination is focused on it and they get it into their heart literally; God made something out of nothing using the light of His word.

Sid:  You know, the revelation you have on the word, is so deep and the teaching anointing I just happen to believe when people take your course on Spiritual Preparation for end times.  It’s nine CDs.  Can you picture listening to nine CDs with this type of presence of God?  Your spirit will for the first time overcome the flesh.  You will walk in the peace of God no matter what the devil or the world or people throw at you.  I cannot urge you enough to take this course.

Sid:  My guest, Dr. Sandra Kennedy is the head of “Whole Life Ministries” in Augusta Georgia and she has been given a commission, she actually, God told her this three times to take over her city for the Lord. Every aspect by equipping believers to move in such a manifest presence of God that wherever they go there’s change; people are healed; the government doesn’t run as usual; the school systems are not run as usual.  They’re run under the Kingdom of Heaven.  I am very very excited over her teaching because it is so simplistic.  Things that you struggled with for years you’re just not going to struggle with it.  Sandra I feel like if you explain that great miracle that you had in reference to that horrible accident with a dog and your lip in the year 2000 and teach along with explaining what happened.  It’s going to have a, there’s a healing anointing flowing right at this moment.  If you’ll do that I believe miracles are going to take place.

Sandra:  I agree with you, and you know one of the basic principal is that you hang on to the things heals until whatever has happened falls to the name of the Lord.  And Sid, if I can say one little thing as we lead into it because I think that this is primary for lots of people.  People will say you know well you pray for somebody to be healed and they’ll close out you know the will the will of the Lord, you know.  May you be healed if it’s the Lord’s will.  Well the Lord only used that one time and it had nothing to do with healing.  It was in the garden of Gethsemane.  It had nothing to do with healing.  You know the other side of praying for somebody saying “If it is your will Lord heal them, if it is not then let them die.”  You know people need to really, we need to take that away from added that to our prayers, I just felt very strongly to say that; but, because God did not use that when it came to healing.  But as you were saying in the year 2,000 my puppy threw a strange accident I bent over,  she jumped up and her mouth closed, our heads hit, her mouth closed on my lip.  Well, blood went everywhere, I grabbed a towel, and a long story short, called my friends and said I think I need to go to the hospital.  I went to the emergency room and when I got in there the first thing they said to me is “Where is your lip?”  I mean that was not a wonderful thing to hear.

Sid:  You didn’t realize that your lip was missing?

Sandra:  No, It was so bloody and blood was everywhere I just got a towel and put it up against it, I didn’t know that the lip was gone.

Sid: How did your puppy do this?

Sandra: Her head, it was a sheltie with a little pointy nose, you know how their little noses are.  I was getting up off a sofa and I bent forward and she was sitting at my feet and she jumped up and our heads hit and so her nose hit right above my nose and her mouth was open and it came down and closed on my lip.  My top lip and blood just went everywhere and I just ran into the bathroom and grabbed a towel and I was kind of scared to look.  But, I did actually look and it was so raw I didn’t know what I was looking at and then when I got to the hospital the first question the nurse said is “where is your lip?”  Or dear Jesus you know and I said “well, I don’t know.”  Well long and short of that story was that said you are going to need a plastic surgeon and blah, blah blah.  Well, they called a plastic surgeon and he came in because I didn’t know anyone.  He came in, thank God he was a Christian and the first thing he said to me instantly was this cannot be fixed. If it had been your bottom lip it will restore itself but the top will not.  And I’m talking about from my nose, from my nose all the way over to end of my lip on the top.  That whole part ripped off and he said we’ve got to go to surgery immediately and he even had to make a bigger cut because it was so ragged.  He then had to go in and do like a pie cut out more of it so that he could pull it together.

Sid: Now, what were your thoughts when all this was going on?  Am I going to be disfigured for life?  What was going on inside of you, Sandra?

Sandra:  Well, what was going on and he affirmed it.  He told me that I was going to be disfigured for life.  He told me I would never be able to smile again so that my teeth would be seen.  He told me that there was nothing that could be done and he told me that it would take three to six surgeries to make it look anywhere normal and yet I would never be able to have a smile again.  And so I grabbed hold of his hands and I said you know this is my lip my body I’m going to pray.  So I prayed for him and I woke up on the operating table hearing him tell the nurse that I don’t know why he said I normally sew the bottom lip together three weeks later come back and slit it.  And I’m lying on the table saying oh, dear God don’t let him do that, don’t let him do that.  And he said for some reason I feel I’m not to do that.  He came out from the surgery and my friends who were standing by and he said to me and to them.  It was the same identical thing there would be six more surgeries for her to even have any kind of normalcy.  She will never have a smile again.  Oh, it was just terrible and I said to him instantly, yes I will my God will do this and I will never have a never surgery.

Sid:  I have a hunch had you not said that at that point you would have been permanently disfigured for life.

Sandra: I think you are absolutely correct because there is life and death in the power of the tongue.  And I just spoke it out strongly and so when I came back to the office the next day or so when I came back it was so horrible I even came to church.  I had black stuff.  My nose was sitting over the side of my face.  It was horrible, I could only speak out of the corner of my mouth.  My lips were glued to my teeth basically.  And when I went back to see him he wanted to pull out this book of cleft lips and all this kind of stuff  to show me what I was going to be dealing with and I refused to look at it.  I said, I will not look at that book.  I will not look at any of those pictures.  I said my God will do this for me.  So I went home Sid, I found every picture I could find of myself with a beautiful smile and I plastered them all over every mirror all over my walls and everywhere I’d go I would look at that picture; and I would say lip hear me reform yourself in the name of the Lord.  And I would take my finger and I would point it at that lip and I’d say I command you in the name of Jesus to move and straighten yourself out.  And I’m here to tell you..

Sid: Well wait along the way did you have periods of time where you would just weep because of what had happened to you?

Sandra: Listen I walked in church on Sunday morning because I am the pastor and we have a decent size church and you know I walked in and the men’s choir was singing.  And when I walked in, they busted out crying.  It looked horrible and I’d look in the mirror and the guy when he tied it he sewed the thing up he sewed it up with black thread.

Sid: Oh!

Sandra: It was horrible, I mean what woman or anybody, it was horrible looking and I just kept speaking and speaking and speaking and speaking and speaking.

Sid:  Yea, but did you get weary after awhile of the speaking and speaking and not seeing any change?

Sandra: Yeah, but do you know what helped?  Right in the middle of it,  you know I go all over the country doing healing explosion where I come and teach people to do what we’ve been talking about and people come in and we have seen.  I mean the minimum amount of people that I see in a healing explosion is about sixty-five percent.  I have seen as high as ninety percent of all people that come to healing get healed.

Sid: Okay, people are on the edge of their seat what happened to that lip that was supposed to be permanently deformed?

Sandra:  Well, I’m sitting there and I’m looking at that scripture and in Luke it says you know whosoever went after and whatsoever you speak to the mountain and I turned and I went on that Healing Explosion looking like.. Horrible.  I had one because it wasn’t more than ten days after this thing happening to me and I couldn’t cancel it.  And in the middle of that I looked at the audience and I said “It is every man for himself and I turned to the screen and I began to speak and praise and throw my hands in the air and tell and command and it began to move.  It just a little movement a little movement a little movement, a little movement of course that encouraged me and then I just kept speaking, kept looking at pictures of me smiling and I’m here to tell you I could smile and even count all my teeth.

Sid:  Well, I have seen you I can witness to that and of course we will have you on television.  That is an amazing miracle.  But as amazing as that miracle is you’re having people that are having missing body parts..Tell me about one to encourage our people.

Sandra:  Okay, this guy was in a coma in the hospital and we go in of course and teach the word of God coma or no coma because we are talking to the spirit man.

Sid:  And you really believe that when someone’s in a coma they can understand your teaching?   

Sandra: Yes, the spirit man is not in coma.  You’re three parts spirit, soul and body so we speak to the spirit and we go in and we just tell him the word of the Lord by the stripes of Jesus he’s healed and just kept pumping that word of God in him and that guy was there for open heart surgery really.  But anyway the long and the short of that story is that guy showed up at the healing center right after that.  He heard every word that was said.  He walked up to the lady who had been in the hospital that we went down there and he said hello.  My name is John because she had gone in the hospital and said hello John.  And he said my name is John and came back and God totally healed him.  He had diabetes they were fixing to do surgery on his feet, cut his toes off because gangrene had come in.  They were just as black as they could be and all of a sudden he just started yelling take my shoes off, take my shoes off something is happening to my feet.  He took his shoes off and Sid he had brand new little pink toes.

Sid:  And the good news is what Sandra teaches to others she wants to teach you.  And we have three CDs that have the fundamental problem in your life.  The title is “Can God be Trusted?”  I mean can you trust God for what you need for your life.  Whether it’s a physical healing or any of the promises of God and then she has what she calls her foundational booklet called “Preparations for a Move of God in Your Life.”  When you put these two together you will be for the first time in your life not moving in just what’s known as mental accent but believing with all of your heart and you’ll be operating in true faith.

 

SID: Hello. Sid Roth here with Nathan Morris. And I found out this young man who the fire of God, literally the fire of God came over him and burned out the drugs and burned out the sex, and burned out everything in the world, and all he could do was have a passion for God. And he starts traveling the world. And Muslims and people of all types start coming to the Lord because they’re seeing signs and wonders. But he found it was because of what he was saying that made such a radical difference in their life. And then he gets a call from Pastor Kilpatrick, and Pastor Kilpatrick had shepherded a revival. He had a conference. He invited him to come and all of it’s fitting together. But then he has a vision, and he hasn’t had many visions in his life. But this one was from God. And what did God tell you?

NATHAN: I saw a crimson tide and I saw Pastor John on the altar of a church. I didn’t know what building it was, but it was a church, and he was on his knees. And he was saying, “Jesus, let your righteousness come and be established in this land.” And I saw a multitude, a crowd behind him, but I knew in my heart that as I was seeing this that these people had already been in God. They were the prayers of the saints that had gone on before. And Pastor John didn’t realize it, but he was joining in with the prayers that had gone on before. And suddenly this crimson tide, a wave bigger than I had ever seen ever in the natural, crimson red in color, it came and it crashed into the church. It literally crashed behind Pastor John. And the thing was that almost took my breath was that it blew the sides of the church walls. It blew the walls clean out of the side. And it was like the building couldn’t contain it. It blew the walls out. And suddenly I was taken around the front and I saw in army in robes just red in color, crimson red. And the Lord said to me, “When you go there you will speak these words: ‘I will visit him again and I will raise up an army that I will send around the world and they will preach the blood, and they will see great wonders. Tell them I’m gonna visit him again.’” And I thought that that was it. I had got my mandate. I shared it with my mother father. And every time I spoke it I felt the power of God. I was supposed to be Hawaii in a week, but stayed in Africa. We were going on with the gospel campaigns. Little did I realize that the night I began to share it God began to visit us again.

SID: And you know what I love about what’s going on here? It’s affecting the young kids, the teenagers. I think it’s making them normal. Oh, if your teenagers were only normal. I want you to talk for a couple of minutes about the blood. Would you do that right now?

NATHAN: You know, Jesus said that there would come an hour, there would come a time in world history, Matthew 24, he said this, he said that, “There will be wars and rumors wars. Nation will rise against nation. There will be earthquake and famine.” Jesus spoke that there would be a great coldness that would enter the heart of man. And anybody that’s watching this right now, you look at the news. Look at the national news in America. Look at the news around the world. Something is being shaken. There’s a darkness that is hidden in the world that we’ve never seen before. Economies are falling.

SID: Listen, I have lived longer than you and I have never seen this before. We are living in one of the most unusual times in the history of Planet Earth. Could it be that we’re at the wrap-up?

NATHAN: We’re literally on the doorstep.

SID: I believe it.

NATHAN: We’re on the doorstep. And you see, there’s been a time where people didn’t want to hear the Gospel. There’s been a time when people’s hunger for God just wasn’t there. But I want to tell you, when people see darkness, when people see what’s happening in the world, things that they place their security in their life crumble within a day, I want to tell you there’s cry right now, there’s a hunger in the nations of the world. And Jesus said, “In such an hour of great darkness,” Jesus came with a light and he said this. He said, “And this Gospel shall be preached as a witness to all nations and then the end shall come.”

SID: What is the Gospel?

NATHAN: I want to tell you, we’ve been hearing the Gospel over the last few years. It’s been watered down. It tries to tickle the ears of men. But I want to tell you the true gospel is when a man will preach about sin, when he will preach that there is only one anecdote, there is only way into Heaven, and that is because of the blood of Jesus Christ who was shed on the cross on Calvary.

SID: Yes!

NATHAN: There is no other way. There is no other way. Jesus said, “I am the way, the truth the life. No one goes to the Father, no one sees the Father except through me.” And I want to tell you that it’s time to preach the blood. It’s time to preach about the blood of Jesus. There is power in the blood of Jesus. There is power. It’s lost none of its power. It’s lost none. I want to tell a generation, my generation are looking for something that is real. They’re looking for something that they can give their life to. And I want to tell you, Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ will give you true life. He’s the one. He knows you better than we know ourselves. And I want to tell you that by his blood he has made a way that we can have life and have it more abundantly. There is a joy unspeakable when you know Jesus Christ. And as you can tell, I get a bit passionate when I preach about the blood of Jesus.

SID: And I have to tell you, it is the blood that washes away your sins. I have given the blood upon the altar as forgiveness for you sin. It is the blood that washes away your sins. And when they’re washed away because you’ve repented then there’s a clear path for Jesus to live inside of you, and you can have true Shalom, true peace. The Gospel is the power of God unto salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first. We’re at that time. Watch Israel. That’s your time clock. Watch Jewish people believe in Jesus and join gentle Christians and become the one new man, the dwelling place of God for the greatest revival in history.

SID: Hello Sid Roth your investigative reporter here with Mel and Desiree Ayers. Desiree your dad at one time wasthe top professional stunt man in Hollywood. What did he do?

DESIREE: Well the series he’s most well-known forwas the original Batman series. He doubled Adam West, played Batman,and was a stunt coordinator for that show.

SID: Now did you want to be a stunt woman your whole life?

DESIREE: No.

SID: No?

DESIREE: No, uh uh…I just liked to…I decided to be a stunt woman when, while going to collegeI started to work extra in the motion picture field.And then one day I was working on the setand the stunt was this girl being pushed into a pooland she made $600 dollars that day and I made $60.So it was the money that was a factor.

SID: Ahh, the light bulb went off.

DESIREE: I went push me in the pool today.

SID: So Desiree let’s go backyour background was pretty interesting.Your mother was a psychic?

DESIREE: Yeah she used to read cardsin my home where I grew up things would literally…I’d go to answer the phonethe receiver would pick up in the air.

SID: Really?

DESIREE: Doors would open and shut.

SID: That stuff happens in real life?

DESIREE: Yes, my favorite toy was theOuija boardand it would move without us touching it;so yeah that really took place.

SID: So it was probably fun and gamesuntil you got into this thing called astral projection.

DESIREE: Yes.

SID: What is that?

DESIREE: That’s actually where your spirit leaves your body;and it wasn’t anything I had really planned to,but I had traveled with a group of psychics;went to psychic meetingsand one day I laid down on my bedand before I knew it I was on the ceiling.And then I started to read books about astral projection.

SID: How do you know you weren’t just imagining this?

DESIREE: Oh no, you know when you leave your body;if you leave your body you know it.I was 16 years old.I had never done any drugs.I didn’t drink coffee, nothingyou know; so I was out of my body.

SID: But this was scary, why?

DESIREE: Well it didn’t terrify meuntil the time my brother saidwhy don’t you go see mom in California?Why don’t you travel to the Masters?Started to mention things like that;and before I knew it I travelled so far into space.And there were serpent, monster creaturesthat were the size of buildingsand I wrestled to get back into my body.And I tried all the different thingslike they’d say the white light;they’d say all the teaching I’d had:God is love, God is love.

SID: Because your father was a ChristianScientist.

DESIREE: Well my father was a ChristianScientistand my mom…so that’s where I got the God is love lineand from my mom the white light.And I wrestledand it was by the grace of God I got back in my body.But at that point I didn’t want anything to do with anythingas far as astral projection, psychics, any of that.I really steered away from that for quite a while.

SID: And you actually got pretty heavy,so when you wanted to be a stunt womanyou went on a diet, but not a normal diet.

DESIREE: Well what’s interesting isnow I’m not being fed spiritually,but I had that God hunger thing inside of me.And so thensince I wasn’t turning to any type of spirituality in my life,i just started eating.That was my comfort.I ate and ate and ate and I became so bigthat by the time I decided I wanted to be a stunt woman;actresses are so skinny.I was too fat to double them.So that’s when I got into anorexia bulimiawhich is excessive working out, running 70 miles a week;teaching two aerobic classes a day,throwing up my food, using diuretics, laxatives.And even though on the outside I looked healthy,I looked bubbly, but my fingernails started to fall off,my hair started to fall out.

SID: But you did get down in weight.

DESIREE: Yes.

SID: And you were very successful as a stunt woman.

DESIREE: Very successful.

SID: But you were taking an acting classand this guy was in your classand you wanted to impress him and you weren’t very successful.Tell me about that.

DESIREE: No, what was…

SID: Why?

DESIREE: Well I didn’t know that he was a Christianand was celibate for two years.So here I’m trying to get his attentionwearing low-cut outfits, leopard skins, high cut,trying to be real sexy, and he just looks away.He wants nothing to do with me.And so it was very interesting timing there,but I knew he always carried a Bibleso I found out everything about him;where he lived, where he worked.

MEL: She was stalking me.

SID: I won’t tell anyone.It’s just the three of us.

DESIREE: (Laughs) It could be considered that,but my cousin called upand he became a born-again Christian.He said Desiree do you want to go to church?The moment he said church I thought of Meland I said where is the church located?And he said Westwood; that’s where Mel lived.I said I’d love to go to church with you this Sunday.And so I went to church.

SID: Did you think you were going to marry this man?

DESIREE: Oh I knew;I had dreams.

SID: But he was rebuffing you!

DESIREE: I know.I couldn’t figure that out.

SID: Alright, so you went to that church.

DESIREE: Yeah I went to the church.I’d never been in a spirit-filled churchand what I mean by spirit-filled church;when the music was going, the presence of God was thereand I’m crying.I don’t know why I’m crying.I feel God in the place.Then I looked to the front rowand Mel is there with his hands up in the air.And I thought “why are his hands up in the air?”You know he must be a monk.I’ve fallen in love with a monk.I didn’t know what was going onbut shortly thereafter we ran off to Vegas and got married.

MEL: 21 years ago.

SID: I mean I remember my wife telling me…my wife by the way was born into a family -she was Southern Baptist -then she became an Agnostic in college.Then when she married me, she became an Orthodox Jew.And then she had an encounter with the Messiah of Israel.And when she saw my hands up;you see David said “I lift holy hands.”It’s normal.It’s natural for those that love God,but very unnatural for a religious group.Hey this really gets good.Don’t go away.You’re going to find out about some stunts.This woman didthat.It’s a miracle she’s with us.Be right back