SID:  Hello, Sid Roth, your investigative reporter here with Carol Reed. Last week hopefully you met her husband Isaiah Reed. Carol as I look at you right now I have to tell you something.  I can’t imagine a woman that was beaten at one point eight hours, beaten, physically beaten, living the life you lived as a prostitute, and I look at you right now, I’m going to have to ask you a question because I see this, but I’m going to have to ask you this – you don’t look remotely like – I didn’t know that person but that person doesn’t even exist. Does she in your mind?

CAROL:  No, you know when God heals you He makes you whole. And so all of those things even they were things in the past, there’s no remnant of it, there’s no scars left there only to be used to help other people. Yeah I went through a lot of those things but today they are empowering me. They are not anything that holds me down.

SID:  And I notice you can even talk about it.

CAROL:  Yeah.

SID:  Which, if it wasn’t for the fact that you know, that was a different person. But, someone doesn’t wake up one day and say ‘I want to be a prostitute.’

CAROL:  No.

SID:  It’s a gradual little by little – I know you can from a nice middle-class family in L.A. – but your stepfather tried to rape you and you ran away from home. And I guess that’s when it really began?

CAROL:  You know I really believe when I was a child you know the devil studies you from when you were little. And he put those things that were insecurities in me and he just blew them out of proportion, and when they weren’t dealt with they simply grew with me. And so every times there was another part of me that was insecure, he just blew it out of proportion. I believe when my mother’s husband tired to rape me that was my fork in the road and I said to myself well, if they think I am a prostitute then I might as well be one. And so I literally allowed what I heard in my psyche to manifest in reality, and I bit the apple.

SID:  Now what was the carrot? What were you after? What was your goal back then?  CAROL:  I really wanted love, number one, was always one of the most things that I have ever wanted. But I really wanted to be an entertainer and I felt as though there was really no way for me to get in to entertainment because of the media it shows women using their bodies and I looked at myself at one point of my life and said, well I’m beautiful, I can use my body because that’s what the media says you know, they’re looking for the glamorous girls and every guy wants a glamorous girl on his arm and so I used my body actually it was a weapon against myself. You know no one was interested in who Carol was on the inside, they just wanted to see who was this trophy baby that they could put up on their shelves or carry on their arms, and I let it get the worst of me.

SID:  So why did you stay in it, though?

CAROL:  You know when you are in a lifestyle like that, after being in it so long you know it’s like a voice speaking into your ear what else can you do?   You don’t have any skills. You’re not marketable. You know, where else are you going to make this kind of money? I was making anywhere from nine to two thousand dollars a day being a prostitute. The devil makes sin look good. And so I was drawn even more and more, and the one year was four years, four years was eight years, eight years ten years, ten years twenty years!  And the next thing you know I look back and where’s Carol at? Carol is this drug addict and this prostitute looks in the mirror, I can’t stand myself. There’s no other choice for me.

SID:  There was a young pimp that was taken with you and was stalking you and your father killed him.

CAROL:  Yes, I had a – because of low self esteem I sought out somebody that I thought that I could groom and make him into this man that I wanted, because you know all of the men that I had before had let me down and so I met this young man and I told him too much information about me and he took it the wrong way and when I decided I wanted to get out of the relationship he began to stalk me for two weeks and one day, August 23^rd, after bringing taking my son getting ready to take my son into the babysitters he came out of nowhere and was going to kill me and my son. And that day I felt death in the air, I could feel demons in the air to gather a soul back, and also feel angels in the air.  I knew death was real but I didn’t know who was there to collect until he asked me where was my father at; and immediately he said that, on his face I could see death and I began to beg him and ask him to run, but it was too late. The next thing I knew my father pulled up behind me and within a matter of seconds he pulled out a nine millimeter and shot this man five times in front of my face. And my world shattered that day because I had destroyed two people’s lives because of my insecurity. You know and it the thing that the devil will use whatever he can do to hold you back from being who you were created to be.

SID:  Isaiah Reed.

CAROL:  Yes.

SID:  When did you meet him and you didn’t realize he was even a pimp.

CAROL:  I met Isaiah Reed in 1985.  I used to live with Jim Brown the football player and one night after coming from a restaurant, I was on my way out and he came up to me and handed me some keys to a Rolls-Royce and I asked him in a not polite way to get away from me, and then when he decided he didn’t want to I gave him my phone number and he began to pursue me. You have to understand because I suffered from a low self-esteem so bad, anyone that seemed interested in me I gave them my attention because I needed his validation to make me be somebody because I didn’t know who I was. And he sought me out and began to call me, and I was in this big case with Jim Brown it was all over the news about raping some girl, and it wasn’t true but –

SID:  The football player.

CAROL:  The football player, Jim Brown of the Cleveland Browns –

SID:  Right

CAROL:  And so we won the case, and Isaiah who was at that time known as Prophet, he called his self Ricky Williams, he called me and asked me would I come to Hawaii to celebrate winning this case and I thought sure, what girl wouldn’t take a trip to Hawaii. And so unbeknownst to me, I flew over there and fell in love with him. And I can remember I thought to myself that either he’s one of two things, either he’s a drug dealer or he’s a pimp, and when I asked him, he told me he was both. And I figured okay, you know, even if he is a pimp I can get rid of two of the girls, I’m cute enough, I can run them off. But then I asked him how many girls he had, and he said, well I have seventeen. And I was like wow; you know that’s quite a few young ladies you know. But it was something that was in me because we had had sexual relations even though I wanted to leave him; I was still drawn to him. And I couldn’t deny the fact that there was something between us and I began to work for him knowing that he was going to pimp me and I was in total agreement to do it. You see a lot of people have it misconstrued that a lot of young ladies are prostituting themselves are being forced to prostitute themselves when it’s a free choice.   I had a free choice.  I chose to do that.

SID:  Yes, but when the other women saw he favored you, what did one woman do?

CAROL:  Well, in 1989 I got pregnant and I said surely he’s not going to make me work the streets anymore and the other girls were very upset because they had been with him for twelve-fourteen years, and here I cone along and I’m pregnant and I can remember when I was pregnant one of the girls kicked me in my stomach, and uh, when I delivered my son at seven and one half months, my baby weighed three pounds, three and three-fourths.

SID:  Did Isaiah have you working the streets while you were carrying the baby?

CAROL:  Isaiah had me working the street, and also myself.  You have to understand something about –

SID:  I’ll tell you what.  Hold that thought.  We’ll be right back in a moment and we’ll bring the man who became her husband, Isaiah, here.

SID:  Hello, Sid Roth your investigative reporter.  The presence of God is going to pour like a river.  I’m so glad that this isn’t the same old, same old type of TV where you sit back, and you just relax and you say entertain me.  No, no, no this is inter-active.  You are about ready to experience the power of God.  You see, Tommy Tenney, has intimacy with God and from this intimacy he walks in divine favor and he tells me his favorite thing is to just relax in his chair and contemplate things, and he hears expressions and words from God.  And Tommy, I have to believe some of those nuggets in your book came from those times. 

TOMMY:  Oh, absolutely.    

SID:  Tell us just a few of them. 

TOMMY:  Well, it’s about favor.  We were chatting.  We have actually had about as much fun off the air as we have on the air. 

SID:  Well it had better be that way, otherwise forget it all. 

TOMMY:  That’s right.  We were talking and this is one of the things that impacted me is that one day of favor can be worth more than a lifetime of labor.  You can work your whole life and it not put you where one day of favor can place you.    

SID:  So profound. 

TOMMY:  You don’t need everybody to like you Sid; you just need the right one.    

SID:  And we work our whole life to get everyone else to like us and we don’t even think in terms of the only one that counts.    

TOMMY:  Favor can restore in a day what was stolen over a lifetime.  Everything can be compacted into one moment.  And for some people, it’s their moment.    

SID:  And not only that, for some of you, you say, well I missed my chance.  Tommy, what would you say? 

TOMMY:  Favor can restore in a day what was stolen over a lifetime.  Satan cannot steal your destiny.  The king can restore anything that was stolen.  The Bible is full of examples, where people like; in the story of Esther they are a disenfranchised people, carried captive.  They were not only carried captive by the Persians, by the Babylonians, and then they got traded off like a used car, to the Persians.  Secondhand captives.  But somehow through favor Esther became Queen of Persia.  Her adopted father became prime minister, and carried the seal of the king’s reign and authority.  God wants to give people authority in their life.  He wants to empower them, but you can’t do it…don’t flirt with everybody else in the palace.  Don’t worry about man’s opinion.  Man is fickle.  They will love you today and hate you tomorrow.  It’s favor with the king that you really want.    

SID:  I understand this favor.  But I’m beginning to understand it even more, Tommy, as I take some of these protocols as you call them… 

TOMMY:  Right 

SID: …in your book.  The favor in my life is visibly increasing; it has to do with only one thing.  It took me a long time to figure it out.  You figured it out sooner than I did, but what’s more important is to figure it out. 

TOMMY:  That’s right. 

SID:  Not when you figure it out, but if you figure it out.  I am putting, carving out time for God like I’ve never done before.  Quality time, quiet time, as you put it, contemplative time, and I’m seeing it.  I know you don’t like to say an equation, but it is, God says, I believe, that if I will spend time putting Him first… 

TOMMY:  That’s right. 

SID:  He is going to shine on me.  And the thing that is so exciting is He is enough sunlight to shine on everyone.    

TOMMY:  If the king likes you, it doesn’t matter who dislikes you.  If you don’t spend time with the king…Esther prepared, that was not time wasted.  Some people feel like I’m stuck, I’m in a rut.  Time spent preparing is never time wasted when it’s your day, if you want it to be your moment, your time – your opportunity.  The little woman that touched the hem of Jesus garment, she had been sick for twelve years.  What if she had and that would have been a good excuse for her to say, I don’t think I going to go out into the crowd today. 

SID:  But worse than that, an unclean woman wasn’t allowed to touch a Jewish rabbi.    

TOMMY:  That’s right.  But something inside of her said I’m not going to miss my moment.  I refuse to miss my destiny.  And she elbowed her way past the opinions of others to get to the feet of Jesus basically.  Now my Bible tells me, as best I am able to understand it, that Jesus never passed through that village again.  What if she had said, I’ll wait until next Sunday.  I’ll wait till the next program.  But she said no, it’s my turn.  I love this little verse, Esther, chapter two, verse fifteen, it says, “Now when the turn of Esther was come.”  I came to tell some of you, it’s your turn.  It’s your time. 

SID:  Did you hear that?  It is your turn.  I can tell you what happened to me.  Coming from a traditional Jewish background; being involved in the new age, not knowing the difference between my left hand and my right hand, about ready to be destroyed, about ready for my marriage to be destroyed.  I can tell you that when I had no hope, it was my turn because someone cared enough about me to tell me that there is a stronger power than the new age power that was tearing me apart from the inside out and that power was in the name of Jesus!  And all I can tell you is I didn’t understand who He was, I didn’t understand what He did, I couldn’t tell you a theological message from beans! I couldn’t tell you anything.  All I could tell you I was going down for the third time, and I was gasping for air, and I cried out a one word prayer, no it was two words.  Jesus help.  And when I woke up, Tommy, from the worst night of my life, I was surrounded with supernatural peace like I had never experienced in the new age, or in the occult, and when I experienced that peace, it was the first time in a year, in a lifetime, not a year, in a lifetime I experienced that peace.  And this is my story, and it’s a true story.  God restored my mind, He restored my peace.  Get this, my wife and I just celebrated our 43^rd anniversary.  Only God could do this.  Only God can restore.  And you know something, what Tommy said; one night with the king, one night Tommy:  Changes everything. 

SID:  Thirty seconds, look into the camera and say something, one night.    

TOMMY:  One night with the king can change everything.  And I think it is your turn for you to have that encounter.  Remember; never underestimate the potential of one encounter.  One night with the king, turned a peasant into a queen.  Never underestimate the potential of one prayer.  Pray that prayer now, and see what God can do.  It’s your turn. 

SID:  Simple prayer.  Jesus, help.  That’s it, Tommy, you know.  Hey you think I’m a little fanatic?  You should see how fanatic people are for demonic.  It’s about time some of God’s children got fanatic for Him.  He is worth it.  Nothing else is worth it.  God is worth it.  I’m so glad you watched today.  Bet you are too. 

SID:  Hello, Sid Roth your investigative reporter here with Tommy Tenney.  There’s a part of his book, on the book of Esther that I have to tell you is one of my favorite parts.  At least that’s where God has me right now.  Some people refer to this as soaking.  Tommy has other descriptions for it.   Tommy, tell me about Esther’s preparation with that oil of myrrh and perfume. 

TOMMY:  Esther, when she was brought into the palace, it’s not like they said, okay, take a shower, and tomorrow you see the king.  There was twelve months of preparation.  The first six months the Bible says that they soaked in oil of myrrh.  That’s a very fragrant, aromatic perfume, and six months in oil of myrrh.  The king must have really liked myrrh.  And then six months with other spices until by the end of that process I think you could probably smell Esther before you could see Esther.  They would say, here comes Esther.  But I don’t see her.  No, but she carried her own cloud with her.  And that was the anointing.   And the real purpose of that anointing, now think about this Sid, she walks through the palace.  Every young man in the palace wants to say, hey Esther, let’s talk.  To which Esther’s only legitimate response is, sorry, I can’t talk to you.  But why Esther?  You smell good, you look good; you’re walking good, beautiful dress.  Esther would have to say, I’m sorry I can’t talk to you.  Why?  It’s not your oil. 

Sometimes Sid, we prostitute the anointing to gain favor with anybody else in the palace. And one of the lessons I learned from Esther is, don’t flirt with lower lovers.  Save yourself for the king.  And that process of preparing, it was all about, the purpose of the anointing, the real purpose of the anointing, is to camouflage the stench of human flesh so the king can stand to be in the same room with you.    

SID:  If someone says, I’m going to, as we do here in the west, segment their life, and say, this part is for God, this part is for me.  What’s wrong with that thinking? 

TOMMY:  Well, it all belongs to God.  It would have been a travesty for a young lady to walk in and think that the palace was about her.  It would have been a prostitution of the process to say this is all about me.  In order to find favor with the king, you had to realize, think about these young girls, Sid.  They come into this palace; they had never seen a palace like this.  It would have been real easy, I’m going to tweak some religious spirits; can you handle it?   

SID:  I can handle it, the question is can you handle it?    

TOMMY:  They walk into this palace and it’s beautiful and it would have been real easy for these young peasant girls to fall in love with the palace.  Esther’s secret was she didn’t fall in love with the palace she fell in love with the presence.  She realized that the palace was just a big empty house without the king.  Sometimes people fall in love with, church.  And what they need to do is fall in love with the king.    

SID:  Tommy, I have a question.  You’ve got this Hollywood motion picture, you’ve got book after book after book that’s bestseller.   How do you, as my wife likes to say, how do you handle the “P” word?  Pride? 

TOMMY:  Oh. 

SID:  That’s a toughie though. 

TOMMY:  You know it may be.  But I know Tommy Tenney.  He’s not capable of doing any of that.  I couldn’t do it without Him.  It’s not about me.    

SID:  What is your personal worship like, life like? 

TOMMY:  Very contemplative.  I, most of my prayer time is spend listening instead of talking.  I do have a few outbursts every now and then tell Him how I feel.  But I’ve found that a good listener is more powerful than a good talker.  And it works with my wife; works with people, and about the only time I’m really comfortable talking is when I’m up speaking.  The rest of the time I would prefer to fade into the background somewhere. 

SID:  Just out of curiosity, are you more of an introverted type of person if you really could do what you wanted to do? 

TOMMY:  If I could do what I wanted to do, I’d live on an island, my wife, my family, my kids, write books and be in the presence of God.  Quite honestly, Sid, I don’t get my kicks out of preaching.  Preaching is my assignment; it’s what I’m supposed to do.  Writing is my assignment.  Where I get my life from, where energy flows into me is from worship.  And there is nothing better that I like than to be in God’s presence.  Not somebody saying He’s there, but Him really being there.   

SID:  For those that really don’t understand what we’re talking about, what does it mean, really, in words people can understand, to be in the presence of God? 

TOMMY:  I’ve been in the presence of Presidents, powerful people, in making this movie, had many, many nights of dinner with people like Omar Shariff, famous actors, and they are all interesting people, but there is nothing like being in the presence of God, your past and your future all rolled into one.  Suddenly you see, and you don’t only see, you understand what you see.  When I’m in God’s presence, I understand things, I know how things work, I don’t have to try to figure things out, you walk out, have you ever walked into a worship service and circumstances in life have you down, but you worship.  You don’t just sing a song, you don’t go through a ritual, you somehow get into God’s presence, then when you leave that service, the circumstances that existed before you walked in are still there, but they don’t affect you anymore.  Because of the divine perspective, you saw how it works.    

SID:  With what’s going on in the world today, how would you like to walk in that type of supernatural peace?   

TOMMY:  Favor. 

SID:  The whole thing that Tommy is saying is, he’s not special.  What God has done for him, He wants to, I believe God has a greater desire for you to enter this arena, than you do.  I think it’s time for it to be reversed.  I think you should have a greater desire to enter it than God.  But it’s actually the opposite.  We’ll be right back, if that hasn’t confused you, come on back and I’ll confuse you a little more.  Don’t go away.  Singer:  One moment in His presence… 

SID:  Hello, Sid Roth your investigative reporter here with Tommy Tenney and I have to tell you last week something happened to me in a very supernatural fashion.  You see, God began to tell me there were people that were watching that had separation between him and them.  And that God wanted in the worst way to have intimacy with them.  He wants you to know him.  He wants you to experience his love, and I believe those same people are watching right now and I have a guest, Tommy Tenney, who was my guest last week and I said to Tommy, I have to have you this week because there was a special presence of God for certain people.  This is an inter-active show, what I mean by inter-active is that you are not just going to sit back and be entertained, you are going to experience the supernatural hand of God.  Tommy, we were talking last week about the book of Esther and, you know, when you say this it inspires me so much.  When you talk about the title of your motion picture, One Night with the King, tell us what one night with the king could do for an individual watching us right now.

TOMMY:  Like we were talking last week, favor is the key word in the book of Esther.  It is virtually in every chapter that Esther found favor.  And its about finding favor, not with just anybody, you don’t need everybody to like you, just the right one.  But how do you, how do you get God to like you?  Some people feel like that’s impossible, it’s really not.  And Esther learned the secrets, and we’ve been talking about what we called the protocols of the palace.  Picture this young Jewish peasant girl, picked up, deposited in the palace.  She has to learn where to walk, where not to walk, what to say.  She learns the protocol.  And in terms of our heavenly king worship is the protocol; it’s how you act in God’s presence.  What made the king notice Esther?  And I’m going to make what could be a humorous comment but, Sid, I don’t really think that Esther walked into the King’s presence with an old dirty tee-shirt on, white fluffy bunny slippers with the back mashed out, and said, Hey, big boy, we’ve got to talk. I don’t think it happened that way.  I think that…

SID:  How many women were going after this position, would you say?

TOMMY:  Well, somewhere between 400 and 1400.  Some of them volunteered, some of them their parents sent them there to try to gain political positions.  Some were just carried captive there.

SID:  And many of them had pedigrees, not like Esther.

TOMMY:  That’s right.  It was unprecedented for a Persian king to not marry somebody from their lineage. And it’s an incredible story that God picked Esther, but Esther submitted herself to that protocol.  She said, okay, to one of the king’s chamberlain, we know his name in the Bible, Haggai, she said, you tell me how to act, you tell me what to do, tell me what to wear, and she did that.  And there are people who dishonor the king by refusing to learn how to act in his presence.  My mission in life, I’m not the king, I’m a chamberlain, I’m a guy that’s been in the presence of the king and my goal is to tell people how to act in his presence.  I talk to people about worship; I can tell you what the king’s favorite dress is.  He said, put on the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness.  Praise is God’s favorite dress.  And some people say, well, you know, that’s just not my personality.  Yet they want favor.  But they say, it’s not my personality to do that.  Then don’t blame me if God doesn’t nod as we talked about…

SID:  Are you trying to tell me, Tommy, it’s not my kingdom, but His kingdom, it’s not my will, but His will, but would you…

TOMMY:  God has this incredible idea, Sid.  He thinks church and the world is all about Him.

SID:  It’s not about the pastor who has to give his message, or he’ll bust?  I don’t believe I said that.

TOMMY:  And neither is it about the banker that has to pursue his career or he’ll bust.  It’s all about god.  It’s about, we were created for a purpose, and you will all be frustrated, we will all be frustrated, if we don’t fulfill our ultimate purpose.  And the ultimate purpose of man is to worship God.

SID:  So many people go to church and they think the worship is the preliminary.

TOMMY:  Worship is the only part of our services that God gets any thing out of.

SID:  I would like you to say that again.

TOMMY:  Worship, I didn’t say worship was the only good part.

SID:  Right

TOMMY:  I said worship is the only part of our services that God gets anything out of.  God doesn’t get anything out of my preaching, your teaching.  Can you see God sitting on the throne of Heaven listening to what we have to say and nudging Michael or Gabriel and saying, “Here, hand me a pen, I want to write that down, I didn’t know that.”  No.

My preaching, my teaching doesn’t teach God anything.  The purpose of preaching and teaching is to raise up worshippers.  So, there’s an attitude that comes with the denigrating of worship.  People say, you know, I’ll be late for church and I’ll miss the wo4rship but I’ll get there for the word.  And they are proud of that fact.  What they are saying is, saying to God, I’m going to miss your part.  I want to get there for my part.  And it doesn’t work.

SID:  You know, in your book you talk about Esther’s preparation; especially soaking for a year.  We’re going to take a break and when we come back we’re going to learn…

TOMMY:  Can you imagine what she smelled like?

SID:  I’m going to tell you something I think she smelled more like that perfume than she smelled like a human.  We’ll be back in just a moment.  Don’t go away.  Someone’s neck has just been healed, someone’s back is just straightening out, and your hip the pain is gone, in Jesus name.  This is interactive, two-way television, and some of you are about ready to have that encounter that your heart has wanted.  Your mind just hasn’t quite figured it out yet, but it will.  Don’t go away, we’ll be right back.  Singer:  “One night with the king, changes everything…”