SID: Sid Roth here with Mary Jo, affectionately called MaJo by her family, Pennington, and her four-year-old granddaughter should have died, fell straight onto concrete, but she really didn’t fall, she was carried by angels, she saw the angels, her grandfather who is an engineer said it is humanly impossible for her not to have hurt herself, and to have fallen and to turn in mid-air the way she turned, unless there was some supernatural help, and then she went to heaven, and she talked about seeing little boys and little girls, tell me about that.

MARY JO: Yes, she saw eight boys and eight girls and these children ranged in age from around four-years-old to ten- years-old, some of these children had been aborted,
squeezed out before they could live, but one little boy, we found out in an unusual way, we were having, we were at, putting flowers by my mothers grave about two weeks
after she fell, and she had to find the grave of a little boy, she just had to, it was urgent for her to find this grave, and

SID: Didn’t you kind of wonder why a four-year-old is looking for a grave of someone?

MARY JO: Yes, her mother walked all over this huge cemetery looking for it, and the only way she found him, she finally mentioned that the, we wanted to leave and come back another day, and she said, “But the tent will be gone,” and apparently she had observed the tent from another place and knew from the tent how to get to where the grave was, and so they started looking at all…

SID: Observed the tent from another place, what do you mean?

MARY JO: She saw it from heaven.

SID: That’s what I thought you were saying; go ahead.

MARY JO: Michael showed it to her from heaven.

SID: Michael, who is Michael?

MARY JO: One of the eight boys and eight girls.

SID: Okay.

MARY JO: And this is the little boy she is looking for and she, when they finally looked around and they saw a tent over beyond my mothers grave about ninety feet, and so they drove back around and she walked up to that, turned her back to the tent, and looked out across the cemetery as thought getting her bearing, and walked straight to this little boys grave, and she said to her mother, “What does that say?” And she said, “Honey it says a little boy, his name is Michael.” She said this is it, and she saw him in heaven and she said why do we need to find his grave, and she said because there is another one. And she later revealed to us that he was killed in a crash, she told us how the crash happened and it was in the newspaper exactly as she told it to us, except she told us that the car was forced off the road by a big monster truck wit lump, lump tires, and then it hit a cement thing, and then it went through the air, it turned upside down and landed in a tree. Well the newspaper did not give the account of the monster truck because that person left the scene, but the car actually had been stopped by a cop and had been left, and after it left the cop, this was all in the newspaper, it…

SID: Could someone have read that article to her and she just made that up?

MARY JO: No, bubba, her brother, Patrick went back the next day to the cemetery and got the name off the marker, yes, and went to his school and looked it up on the internet and the newspaper clippings were there and he printed them and brought them to us and we were just astonished. Because the first thing her mother said, ask her what color
the car was and we did and she said it was red. She said ask her if it landed upside down or right side up, she said upside down, that’s when she told me all about how the wreck happened, and I was telling it back to Sandy and Sandy was saying man, I’ve got goose bumps, it is so unreal, it is just exactly like it is in the paper.

SID: Now what did she mean, there is another one?

MARY JO: Well there were some custody battles after that, the little boy had lived with his father but he was visiting his mother and her boyfriend wrecked the car and they were both killed, the man and the little boy, and the little boy wanted his sister to stay with his father, actually. He wanted her, him not to, her not to have to go with the mother anymore.

SID: Now how did you know all of these facts?

MARY JO: In the newspaper.

SID: So there is really no explanation for Victoria to have all this information?

MARY JO: No, not at all.

SID: Except to prove to you that there was something way beyond, if only you know what, if you even didn’t have those facts, I don’t see how a four-year-old could imagine what you have told me, even if you didn’t have that verification.

MARY JO: We have never been able to find the little boy whose parents…

SID: Did the little boy tell her anything else about the situation?

MARY JO: Yes, he said that he had been mean to kids at school, and that when the accident happened he had a stake through his throat and he couldn’t speak very well, but he was trying to say God forgive me for being mean to the kids at school. So as young as he was and he was only four and a half when he died, he knew his heart needed to turn to God even as he knew he was dying he asked God to forgive him for being mean to kids at school. Not that he would have gone, he would have gone to heaven anyway, but he knew his heart had to turn to God at that moment and then the angels took him on up to heaven.

SID: Now you told me something else that was interesting that by your swimming
pool people report seeing angels now.

MARY JO: Yes, there is a lifeguard angel that is at this diving board all the time now, he is very large, sometimes I can see him pretty clearly, I can see like breastplates, brown, like chest plate on him, I have seen him very well, but other people can too, when you step out our glass sliding door, and look toward our glass sliding door, the sliding board, you an see like a midst, in the shape of an angel, that you can see through it, but you can clearly see him, and what happens is the bars on the sliding board will reflect in his body, you can see them reflect several times up in his body, there is no reason for them to reflect, there is nothing to reflect there.

SID: Well, I also understand that your granddaughter Victoria goes to heaven often.

MARY JO: Yes, she does, in fact she said when she doesn’t go to heaven, heaven comes down to her.

SID: what does she mean by that?

MARY JO: She can often just look up and see God and Jesus just right there.

SID: You do realize that what you are telling me is very hard for a lot of our viewers to believe, I bet it was hard for you, what convinced you?

MARY JO: A lot of times I have doubt, but it, I’m always convinced because there is no way she would know what she knows, when I, she is a very normal child, when I ask her what she does when she goes out to play, if she can always look up and see God there, she says she just doesn’t look up, she has to keep her head where she can’t see him so she can just be normal and play because a lot of times all she has to do is glance up and see Jesus or God. And I tell her don’t go out to the road, I don’t want you outside by yourself, she said I’m never by myself, Jesus is always with me.

SID: You know what I loved in the book about when she sat in God’s lap, I don’t know about you but I would like to sit in God’s lap.

MARY JO: Well, she had seen God at the baby place and Jesus and her family but when Jesus and her, at the end, started into the Throne Room by themselves to go and tell God bye because she was going to come back, well Jesus wanted her to stay, but when she entered the Throne Room she was afraid of the living creatures, she saw things with lots of eyes and they made lots of noise and they scared her, but once they got past that, God motioned her to come to him and she ran to him and he allowed her to climb up his leg and across his lap into his lap and she…

SID: Now these living creatures are described in the Bible in the Throne Room, how was her description compared to the Bible description?

MARY JO: Well, she now calls them the four faces, but the first she said when she was very small, she was only five when she said they have lots of faces on their face, and she said they have lots of wings, they have lots of eyes on them, and their legs go down straight and they don’t have toes like us.

SID: How could she have known this? How could a four-year-old have known anything like this? You know Mary Jo, it’s, if you just open your Bible and you turn to Ezekiel the first chapter, and you read this four-year-olds account of what happened in her book, it is just like the Bible, she even talks about seeing the lion with the whiskers but she sees something in heaven that there is no way she could have known that happened to MaJo many years ago, which revolutionized Mary Jo’s life, come on back next week and we will continue with you on her adventures in heaven.

SID: Hello, Sid Roth here with Mary Jo Pennington, she is affectionately called by her granddaughter, MaJo, and Majo you got the shock of your life, your granddaughter, you fall, knock her off of the top of the sliding board, she falls down some nine feet onto the cement but she falls in almost a suspended state, where she changes her position, your husband said there is no human explanation then you overhear her talking on the telephone to her mother and she said, six.

MARY JO: Six big, big, big, angels caught her and zoom, took her up to heaven.

SID: Now, I’m sure if it had been me I would have questioned my granddaughter at that point, what did you do?

MARY JO: Well, we were so surprised that we couldn’t think of anything intelligent to ask her, so we asked her what color were their robes and their wings and their robes were white and their wings were white, shiny, sparkling, and the angles themselves glowed, and when, they had, I said how big were they, and she said really big, their hands were this wide, like from here to here, she said and they were warm and glistering and glowing, and when they hold my hand, she said, when them hold my hand my hand
glowed too, they made her light up like a light bulb, she shown like a light bulb.

SID: Now where did they take her?

MARY JO: They took her up, she said they passed all the things that she likes, the trees and the birds, they passed an airplane that was taking off and they were going straight up and the plane was going sideways, she looked back and the earth was getting smaller and smaller, when she first saw it, it was like rounded and then it got where it was like a little ball, and then she, they got to a place, it was way beyond the stars, that there was a stairway that had angels going back and forth up to heaven and her six angels and her continued up the stairway, and when they got to within, they told her to look ahead and it was like there was this big glowing, she said she thought they were going to land on the sun it was so glowing. And they got closer and closer but it wasn’t hot, it just was glowing like the sun but much brighter, and when they landed she was in front of a gate and a small angel, that had been coming up along with her, up the stairs, came over to the gate and tickled the gate with her feather and the gate laughed, and swing open.

SID: Now when she went into heaven she saw some babies, tell me about that.

MARY JO: Yes, she said an angel came out to tell her where was Jesus, and then took her to the baby place, and the baby place that she first was taken to was a really big, really large beautiful building, and in it were long, lots of tables that were very soft, and Jesus and the angels were working on little babies that Victoria could hold in her hand, and they were making them whole, and the babies, even though they stayed little, they instantly, after Jesus made them whole, had mental capacity to be able to speak and understand and they were made strong to where they could use their arms and their legs but they stayed little, they grow the normal size that they would on the earth, but when they are made whole they have full mental capacity.

SID: Now in your book you talk about some terminology she uses about, she said the baby would squeeze out, explain that.

MARY JO: Yes, she went to this other room they had a beautiful baby room and this little baby, the first baby she saw she said her was squeezed out of her mama before her were old enough to live. And we met several babies there that were, and then she started to tell me about a little baby that had gone full term, but she started to look kind of sick when she told me about her, she said she was the garbage baby.

SID: You know what, a four-year-old, is there any way a four-year-old could know about abortion?

MARY JO: No, there is no way, but she, each of the babies that had been aborted were this little and they were squeezed out before they were old enough to live, and then the garbage baby was left at a dumpster and it died. And when the garbage baby told her that story, she became a little sad, and they went and got, a kangaroo came and put her in her pouch, it was a warm place for this little baby to be, and the kangaroo actually took them for a ride out in this beautiful park and Victoria couldn’t fit all the way in and she hung her legs out and they went bouncing, they would bounce as high as the sky, and…

SID: You know what, if she was making this whole thing up, here is the deal as I see it, number one, the way she fell with not anything even broken, you can tell there is something supernatural, me, I don’t have a better explanation than angels caught her, and for a four-year-old to have such a graphic description of abortion, but it gets even more exciting than that, she sees things in heaven that we read about in the scriptures, again, there would be no way she could know these facts but let’s go to a clip of a report on the children she saw in heaven. Victoria: there was eight boys, eight girls; there was eight boys, eight girls.

SID: Hello, Sid Roth here, welcome to my world where it is naturally supernatural. What would you do, you have your granddaughter over, you are enjoying yourself in your swimming pool in the back yard, and all of a sudden Mary Joe Pennington decides to go up on the diving board and she yells out, “My God, I have broken my baby,” what happened?

MARY JO: Well I climbed to the top of the sliding board I have a slid that goes down into the pool, with great caution and care because I hadn’t done that in over four years, and as I got to the top, Victoria said, “MaJo, can I come up and slid down with you? And I said sure, and she, I didn’t realize she just scooted right up behind me, she was just right behind me, and my old knees just gave way and I fell flat, really hard, and my body hit her and she went flying backwards at a very high rate of speed and it was nine feet to the concrete, and I just screamed, “Oh God, I have broken my baby,” and I kept screaming that and screaming it and…

SID: Don, you were watching, first of all what is your profession?

DON: I’m an engineer.

SID: All right, this is your granddaughter too, what did you see with your eyes.

DON: Well, I was in the pool and alongside the pool about opposite where the sliding board was, and I heard MaJo scream, I wasn’t looking at her at the time but I heard her scream, “Oh God, I’ve broken my baby,” and I looked up in time to watch Victoria fly backwards away from the sliding board, and she stretched out horizontally, her little
body stretched out horizontally, I saw it rotate 180 degrees so her feet were pointing in the opposite direction.

SID: While she was still horizontal in the air.

DON: Horizontal.

SID: You’re an engineer, how can you account for that?

DON: Well, what I was seeing was not making sense to my brain, and then I saw her almost float and not only go straight down to the concrete but she moved over about six
feet away from the sliding board and settled down on her little backside and her elbows and hands. And I just couldn’t believe what, I expected to see her body flying in all kinds of parts.

SID: So you obviously went to examine what was going on, where were you, were you still on top of the sliding board?

MARY JO: Yes, I couldn’t get down at all, and I couldn’t see her when she was behind me and then suddenly, and she didn’t scream, I was screaming, but she didn’t scream, but suddenly I saw her settle in my view where I could see her, and I felt as though I had to keep my eyes on her if I glanced away she would fall into a million pieces, I just had to keep eye contact wit her and I was still screaming I’ve broken my baby but I just knew
that if I stopped, I don’t know why I felt like I could hold her together just by looking at her, and then Grandpa came around to check her out.

SID: What did you see?

DON: Well, she was trying to get up, she said, “Grandpa, I’m okay, I’m all right,” and she
was physically trying to get up. And I made her lay still, and I said please let me check you all over, because I did not know what I was going to find.

SID: You’re telling me she fell over thrust like with a force and fell nine feet onto cement?

DON: Right.

SID: Yeah, so, who was with her?

DON: I checked her over, I checked, you know her head, and her neck and her spine, her arms and her legs, and they all worked and there was no blood and she appeared perfectly normal, so at that point I did let her get up and then I noticed two little places on her body, she had a little scrape on her right elbow, and a little red mark on her palm, and that is the only evidence of any injury that I could find.

SID: Okay, you are an engineer, a logical man, how do you account for this, it’s not making sense to my brain.

DON: Well, it didn’t make sense to mine and I can’t account for it now, it’s – in light of what we learned later, from talking to Victoria, but at that time it just made no sense to me at all.

SID: Now, MaJo, when you heard your granddaughter talking to her mother on the
telephone you got your first inkling of what really was going on, what did you over hear?

MARY JO: She said, “Mommy, I’m not broken, Majo knocked me off the slide, and I heard God yell, “Save the children, catch Victoria, and six big, big, big, big angels came and caught me and zoom, took me right up to heaven.”

SID: Now Don, is there any other explanation for how she fell and the fact that she didn’t break her body?

DON: No, not to me there’s not.

SID: I can’t think of anything.

DON: well we just thought it was a great miracle of God’s protection that kept her from serious injury, but when we heard her talk to her mother on the phone that she had gone to heaven, we were just, we didn’t know what to think at that point.

MARY JO: Speechless.

SID: Okay, they had like a home video of Victoria when this happened and her reporting on what she saw; let’s go to that right now.

Video: all right, now show me what happened.

Victoria: From that.

MARY JO: Show me.

Victoria: When the angel caught me, I said boom.

SID: Okay, now that’s kind of, she’s seven now, I can see where you went from vague, to a miracle, you must have been a grateful grandmother.

MARY JO: I was, I couldn’t stop thanking God, for this wonderful blessing that he gave us that he saved her, I just couldn’t stop.

SID: And she keeps going back to heaven, we’ll be back in just a few minutes, don’t go away, I know you’ll be back.

SID: Hello, Sid Roth here with Alyosha and Jody Ryabinov, and Alyosha, I had something amazing happen the other night. I was watching television, and I heard a man speaking about predictions in the Bible, and it was fine. It was very good, very stimulating intellectually. But then, all of a sudden he said a Hebrew prayer, and I could feel the presence of God. It just accelerated. Why do you believe that’s going on? Why is there such a supernatural presence of God on the language of Hebrew?

ALYOSHA: Well again, we were talking about science just catching up with the word of God.

We know that God spoke the word of God first to Moses in the Hebrew language.

SID: Of course.

ALYOSHA: And there was a Swiss scientist, Hans Jenny, and I’m not a scientist, I’m just retelling it in simple words, but he had an experiment. He created this instrument called a tonoscope, and he would put sounds at one end and he would beam it to a different substance, like sand, to see what kind of shapes the sound would create. And then he tried different speech, different languages. None of the modern languages responded, did anything. But when somebody spoke Hebrew into the tonoscope, it started to put Hebrew vowels on the sand.

SID: You’re telling me the sound took shape from this tonoscope, and the actual vowels from Hebrew were outlined in the sand?

ALYOSHA: Yes, they were outlined in the sand, and there are pictures on the internet you can look up. Yeah.

JODY: This was done in 1967. 1967.

SID: Ahh. Very historic year for Israel. Tell me more about this Hebrew language. You just did a music CD in which a sabra, a native-born Israeli, spoke the words of God in Hebrew. Alyosha, you played that for your congregation, and what effect did it have on the people there?

ALYOSHA: Well actually I want to tell you this, that when I was mixing the CD, you know, I have to listen to the whole thing, and I was just sitting as one track was copying to another, and I started to see all kinds of images that I haven’t seen before. It was like, gosh, I’m seeing visions.

So I said let’s make an experiment and see how people in our congregation respond. And we have a practice where we like to put on quiet music and sit in the presence of God, and just receive rest from Him and love from Him, you know. And so, I brought this CD and said “We’re going to do this with a CD today.” And so as it was going, I think as it ended, it just went for about thirty minutes, people stood frozen. They just couldn’t move, and I think for another ten minutes, they could not move. And when they started to talk, gradually they said that they have not experienced the depth of the rest in their lives, like they had experienced listening to this.

SID: We’re going to have you, in a little bit in this program, play on the piano. But you don’t just play music anymore. What are you expecting God to do when you play on a piano?

ALYOSHA: Well I believe that music has languages. God can do healing, God can bring people into rest, God can give people visions. Often in our congregation, I’ll just go to the piano and I’ll say “Hey, let’s see what God is speaking to you.” I mean we can all hear God, because He created us. Sometimes people come to the piano, they touch the piano so they will get healed, because those frequencies that we just spoke about, come through the sound, and they go through the wood into our body, and if they’re healing, they just align whatever needs to be aligned in the cells, and the person gets healed.

SID: Literally, I can imagine that when I pray for someone now, now that I understand how sound operates, the highest frequencies, if you will, are the words of God, written in the truth book, the Bible. And when this word of God is spoken, literally the matter of the body rearranges. And when the word of God, and that’s what Alyosha’s saying, it’s prophetic playing of music, when this word of God comes through the vibrations of the music, it literally is going to rearrange your cells. I would imagine, this is such a new tool that we’ll be offering, but I believe we’re going to get reports of people with insomnia that can sleep, people with all sorts of tumors that are going to disappear, blood disease is going to be normal. But I can’t wait to hear you play that piano. Tell you what, you prepare your heart to have the very fibers of your being rearranged, as you hear the presence of God coming on this piano. Don’t go away, we’ll be right back, and you’re going to hear Alyosha play prophetically.

On It’s Supernatural: Scientists discover the Hebrew language that Jesus spoke has the power to actually move mountains.

SID: Welcome to my world, where it’s naturally supernatural. I mean, this is the norm. I am so excited about this show, because for the first time, we’re finding out that science, true science, that’s dealing with true facts, are beginning to figure out that the words that the famous Jewish rabbi – the King of the Jews, Yeshua – said, are true. He said you could speak to a mountain,

and if you would believe, that mountain would be obliterated. We’re now finding out that there is a realm of science called quantum mechanics, quantum physics, that examines the unseen world.

And literally, the energy behind the voice causes matter to rearrange and change. And here’s what it’s done for me. When I understand the science behind it, my faith in the miraculous just skyrockets. My guests, Alyosha and Jody Ryabinov. Jody, what about you? When you  understood for the first time this scientific law of quantum mechanics, what did it do for your faith?

JODY: It just skyrocketed my faith, because I could believe then that the word of God is real and true. And when God spoke this world into existence, Sid, we read in Genesis chapter 1 that He spoke the word and the world came into existence. And so everything begins with a spoken word, with sound, with frequencies, and science is backing that up now with quantum mechanics and quantum physics.

SID: But before we get to that, Alyosha, what is a nice Jewish Russian concert pianist doing in a church? Why did you go to a church?

ALYOSHA: You’re talking way back then when I grew up in the city of Kiev. And actually I grew up as an atheist. I didn’t know anything about my background as being Jewish. The only reason I knew I was Jewish is somebody else would remind me about it. I guess I look like one.

But we didn’t practice any of the traditions, didn’t know anything. But in the late ‘70’s, the door was opened from communist Russia for the Jews to go out to Israel and to other countries. And so our family also wanted to leave, because there was no future for me and my sister to pursue our careers and our lives. Still, it was very, very difficult. Many people were denied visas, many people were refused for no reason, and their lives just got stuck with that. And so, I felt like I needed a supernatural intervention into my life, because I did not know whether they would let me go or not. And I thought “Well, I’d like to pray to God.” I didn’t know if God existed, nobody really taught me about God. But there was a church there that I knew, it was a Greek Orthodox church, and I knew absolutely nothing about that religion. I just wanted to go and pray.

SID: Sure.

ALYOSHA: So I walk into that church, and there were different pictures, and I got confused in the beginning. “Which one is God here? I thought God is one.” But there was a picture of Jesus there, and I just felt comfortable calling Him God. Don’t know why. So I said “Jesus, if you are the true and living God, make it possible for us to leave.” And guess what? About a week or two passed, and we received permission to immigrate.

SID: So this great miracle happened, but he got to the United States, and he’s pursuing his career as a concert pianist. You come from how many generations of musicians?

ALYOSHA: Well at least 3, maybe more.

SID: And you would play the piano. Up to how many hours a day would you practice?

ALYOSHA: When I got to my teen years, I had to practice 4 or 5 hours a day.

SID: So I would have to think your god was really your music.

ALYOSHA: It was, yes.

SID: Ok, so he gets to the States, he quickly forgets that this Jesus answered his prayer, but he had an encounter one night in his bedroom with the supernatural. What happened?

ALYOSHA: My sister became a believer first, and she reminded me about Jesus.  I remember that I prayed to Him, but I wasn’t sure. This was one encounter. And see, by the way, people ask me “Where did you hear about God in the first place?” And I grew up with atheism, but I tell them the first people that taught me about God were atheists.

SID: How could they teach you about God?

ALYOSHA: They have to explain to you who doesn’t exist, and so…

SID: So that’s how you knew. He doesn’t exist.

ALYOSHA: Yeah. Why put so much effort to prove that God doesn’t exist, if He doesn’t even exist? It doesn’t make sense to me.

SID: Good point.

ALYOSHA: But that night, when my sister started to share about Jesus, and I said “Is it right for Jewish people to believe in Jesus?” So I was in my room, and I asked the Lord, if He was real, if Jesus was real, to give me some sign. I know now that the Bible says that a Jew will ask for a sign. That’s what I did. And suddenly, a bright light filled the room, just for a few moments, but I knew it had no place it could’ve come from…

SID: Was it a street lamp, or…?

ALYOSHA: No, and it was early morning, it was totally cloudy. There was not even a place for the sun to go through. But the room just illuminated, and I knew, I got my sign.

SID: And shortly thereafter, he’s still resisting, but someone says “Do you want to believe Jesus is your Messiah and Lord?” And even though he wasn’t ready yet, out of his mouth came…

ALYOSHA: I was asked “Do you want to accept Jesus as your Messiah?” And I was going to say no, instead came out yes, to my surprise

SID: Wait till you hear about the supernatural music now that he’s playing, with a supernatural language. Don’t go away.